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SEO experts: Need advice. Got a question.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SilverKnight, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. SilverKnight

    SilverKnight Power Member

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    Hey.

    I'll use BHW name as an example. I have a forum with domain name black-hat-world.com. It is currently ranking on first page for a few KWs. I also have the domain blackhatworld.com which is just collecting dust in my domain account. Like most of you, I would prefer to run the forum under the domain blackhatworld.com (without hyphens) instead of black-hat-world.com.

    So if I put the forum under blackhatworld.com and redirect black-hat-world.com to blackhatworld.com - what will happen?

    1) What will happen to the Alexa rank of black-hat-world.com? Will it be passed onto blackhatworld.com?
    2) What will happen to the Google rankings (SERPs) of black-hat-world.com? Will blackhatworld.com take the black-hat-world.com's spots in SERPs?

    Question 2 is very important and the determining factor in whether I will go ahead with this or not. Obviously, if the SERPs don't get replaced then only an idiot would go ahead with this. So I need to be sure before I do this.

    Whats your take on this, SEO experts?
     
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  2. FBGuru

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    1. Alexa rank will slowly drop on the black-hat-world.com. Nope, it won't be passed onto the blackhatworld.com. You don't have to worry about it as Alexa rank has nothing to do with SEO.
    2. Yeah, blackhatworld.com will replace the SERPs of black-hat-world.com for its keywords.
     
  3. Jobdollarr

    Jobdollarr Supreme Member

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    It's about the keywords, instead of the domain.

    And density of backlinks will affect your SERP.

    This is my personal opinion
     
  4. SilverKnight

    SilverKnight Power Member

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    1) Yep I know Alexa has nothing to do with SEO. But Alexa rank means something to my advertisers so I don't it to be affected. But I believe, since all traffic will be redirected to blackhatworld.com, the Alexa will get back to what it was within a month or so.

    2) Are you 100% sure about this? Will it permanently replace the SERPs? I asked this question to a SEO provider and his reply was that it will temporarily replace the SERPs and over time the SERPs will fall. But you are saying that as long as black-hat-world.com stays redirected, I don't have to worry about losing SERPs, right?


    I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand your reply.
     
  5. Adimaru

    Adimaru Newbie

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    It's about the keywords man, also my personal opinion
     
  6. innosoft

    innosoft Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    afaik, alexa will be transferred slowly and 301'ed domain will get all juice of old domain and hence will rank.
     
  7. FBGuru

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    1. Yes it should.

    2. Yes, it will replace the SERPs as long as the redirect is there. I believe the "SEO provider" is talking about redirecting a penalized domain to a new domain. That's when you regain the rankings and lose the ranks slowly. If black-hat-world.com is not penalized, you won't lose any SERPs for blackhatworld.com.
     
  8. asap1

    asap1 BANNED BANNED

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    Hmmm #2 is tricky because according to Moz 90% - 99% link juice is passed in 301 redirects BUT if you search around you will also find that people say 301 redirects lose their link juice over time.

    Im not 100% on this but after a quick search it seems possible 301's lose power over time.

    Do more research of your own and then decide from there.

    Good Luck OP
     
  9. Uniqu3

    Uniqu3 Newbie

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    I've had nothing but bad experiences when 301 re-directing. I've lost my rank on the serps after doing a 301.
     
  10. antichrist

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    I would highly recommend not doing that. I decided to rebrand my IM site and lost 60% of my visitors doing this even with 301s in place.
     
  11. Jobdollarr

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    If you increase the number of backlinks for keyword: black-hate-wolrd.

    It will stand alone with the search: black-hate-world

    not blackhateworld

    So there will be a keyword suggestion black-hate-world
     
  12. SilverKnight

    SilverKnight Power Member

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    Can I get a few more replies in this thread? I want to make an informed decision and do not want to take the risk with my ranked domain.