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Selling Domain on Sed*o

Discussion in 'Site Flipping' started by srb888, Mar 15, 2010.

  1. srb888

    srb888 Elite Member

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    Hi friends,

    I have some really great SEO domain names [raw keywords only - high phrase searches in top niches - for example, dating niche and one domain.com is among the very top positions (daily searches in 1000s - phrase search) according to MarkSamu] parked at sed*o.

    But it seems that no one is noticing them. Some are for outright buy, and some for auctions. They are really good, and I have hundreds such in the pipeline to begin registering them once at least one of the present-ones is sold away. BTW, the domains are priced in high xxx to high x,xxx (and even xx,xxx :)) range, and all are dot coms only.

    I have recently began using sed*o, and if someone can write here or PM me some good tricks to make them noticeable, I would be very thankful.

    So please tell me some tricks (not expecting your best shots to be revealed, but there can be some great second choices that you may like to share). Will of course remember to do "something" in return once a big name gets sold. :)

    Thanks in advance & God bless you.:)

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    Is spending on 'Featured Listing' or 'Domain Brokerage' worth it, asking because my money position is rather tight now?
     
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  2. nouseforaname

    nouseforaname Junior Member

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    I also would like to hear the answers, I just listed 2 of my domains there. Just purchased $69 featured listing for 1 domain though (Yesterday). No offers received yet, but hopefully to get $x,xxx for it.

    P.s: I'm new to Sedo as well.
     
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  3. GoogleJuggler

    GoogleJuggler Newbie

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    Selling domains on Sedo is all about (like anything else) views. Here's a BH method:
    If you and some others have cellphones with internet access, if your domain is parked, have them type in the domain to view it. Also, have someone (or a few) sign up and make an offer (if you know how to blackhat this, it will help).
    Most people go to the categories & filter their search by offers, so see how many offers it takes to be on the first page and produce them.
    Hope that helps a little!
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  4. nufaman

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    Do they get any traffic? Any type-in traffic? Based on what are you giving the domains a $xx,xxx price tag?
     
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  5. srb888

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    All of them are very new and parked immediately, so there is no traffic.

    Still, I understand SEO quite a bit, and know which keywords/phrases are ranking extremely high especially for the phrase and the exact search. Luckily, I found quite a few such KW phrases, short and medium lengths, that weren't taken up as domain names. They are in great niches too. I got them registered and checked on Sed*o that some top KWs-domains were asking for x,xxxx or more amounts (without having any traffic) and they also had more than 1 bids. I also found that such top quality KWs have also been sold in that range before, so I have put x,xxx asking prices too.

    @ GoogleJuggler:
    "Also, have someone (or a few) sign up and make an offer (if you know how to blackhat this, it will help)." -- Thanks! But I really don't know how I can ask someone to go ahead and place a 'bid' for such high asking prices?... How much (s)he can bid and what should be my next step?...

    I'm a real noob in the field of flipping domains. Is there any ebook that explains such GH/BH technique in detail?

    I need some fast help on this (getting offers to my entries at the earliest) because, believe me, my little research has found me hundreds if not thousands of such great KWs that can be registered (dot coms -- they are available) as soon as this initial hurdle is cleared!

    Thanks again!
     
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    Hi!

    I'm really interested to know how it (featured listing) goes for you. Good luck!
    :)
     
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    Well, unless they are dictionary words I doubdt they could go for the $xx,xxx you are hoping for. Feel free to PM me one of them and I will let you know what I think. I know many high-rolling domainers and if you indeed have any good ones I could contact you with them.
     
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  8. jamesmith

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    what is the valuation as per estibot.com?
     
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  9. nufaman

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    estibot.com... lol
     
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  10. srb888

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    Sorry about estibot!

    I have done some research on estibot -- here are my findings:

    Estibot probably takes data from sedo. I checked all the domains that were 'recently sold' on sedo and compared with estibot just after sedo sold those doamins... estibot's appraisal is the SAME as sedo in almost 95% cases (i.e., after the domain name is sold at sedo)!

    Next, I tried to compare the still-at-auction but nearing the end of it's 7-day period (with multiple bids, of course. I don't believe in 1 bid offers which could be manipulated bids by 'friends', IMHO)... so what does estibot say about those domain names (appraisal)? As I guessed, the results are nowhere near the bid-amounts at sedo...

    If estibot gives 'correct' appraisals (in 95% of cases) for MOST domain names (which are incidentally already sold at sedo, recently or not-so-recently), then it should also give close (very close in fact, because it has given 'very accurate' appraisals for the already sold domain names) estimates for the about-to-be-sold domain names (as on sedo).

    Estibot actually doesn't give any accurate estimates! If it gives 'correct-to-the-dollar' 'estimate' prices in case of 'sold' domain naes (at sedo), then it MUST also give correct prices for the domains-in-auction (nearing the end of their auction period) with the same accuracy! It fails on this count!!!

    Why? If it estimates accurately in case of the already sold domain names, then it uses ALL factors whatever they are (including personal favorites, customer tastes, etc.:)). Because they 'estimated' very accurately in case of the sold domains,

    but estibot is nowhere close to the auction-in-process domains' prices (of course, these domains will get sold at a higher price ultimately, but estibot has already been proven wrong as it has estimated a much lower estimated price and its overall accuracy rate is not even 50% compared to its accuracy rate of over 95% in case of sold domains prices at sedo)!

    It would be worthwhile to record estibot's estimates on select domain names over a 7-day period on day-to-day basis, recording the bid amounts on a domain at sedo and comparing it with the 'estimated' price of the same domain in estibot.

    I took a sample of 25 domain names that were sold at sedo recently and compared with estimate of estibot (after the domains were sold) -- estibot records almost 95% accuracy -- in fact - almost on the dot accuracy!!! I also took estimates of some domain names (which are in auction-in-progress at tthe LAST stage (7th day) at sedo with multiple bids, not single bids), and estibot is no where near to the prices. It would be interesting to compare the sold prices of these in-process domains at sedo with estibots RECORDED estimates (before the domains are sold, because estibot may change their earlier estimates to the sold prices at the instant these domains-in-process get sold).

    Hope you get an idea of what I am saying here...
    :)

    EDIT:

    Recently Sold Domains At Sed*o and Estibot ??valuation after:

    Code:
    ~ See how closely the Sold price and the Estibot Value 
    matches after the domain IS SOLD at Sedo -- 
    see all values in green color! :)
    ~ In white are the values that Estibot wasn't able 
    to manage to match Sedo sell price.
    
    Note: In bracket is the equivalent price in USD:
    
    SEdo Domain-->Sold For USD -->equivalent in USD --> Estibot Value (USD)
    4g4.com-->460 $US-->-->2,000
    [COLOR=Lime]candyapple.net-->1800 $US-->-->1,800
    experienceconsulting.com-->888 $US-->-->910
    fotokarten.com-->3588 $US-->-->3,700
    imprintedumbrellas.com-->880 $US-->-->910
    location-vacances.org-->1350 EUR-->(=1,823[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime] USD)[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime]-->1,900
    lohnsteuerhilfeverein.com-->1401 $US-->-->1,400
    marathashaadi.com-->3000 $US-->-->3,100[/COLOR]
    next-idea.com-->1500 $US-->-->130
    [COLOR=Lime]personalvermittlung.de-->13200 EUR-->(=17,820 USD)-->18,000
    plenty.at-->17850 EUR-->(=24,098 USD)-->25,000
    rembi.com-->4888 $US-->-->5,000
    webhostinghub.com-->3688 $US-->-->3,800
    webportal.biz-->80 EUR-->(=108[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime] USD)[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime]-->130
    weltreise.org-->1350 EUR-->(=1,823[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime] USD)[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime]-->1,900
    zuno.ro-->5000 EUR-->(=6,750[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime] USD)[/COLOR][COLOR=Lime]-->6,900[/COLOR]
    
     
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  11. Karlos

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    I think that's some excellent research you've done there!

    So it's not an estibot so much as a guessbot pretending to be an estibot :)

    Still, there will be idiots who believe it ;)
     
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