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Scrapebox-Akismet?Xrumer----???Spamers-How to avoid blacklisted?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by 123again, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. 123again

    123again Registered Member

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    Maybe this question is a little idiot,but I believe many guys like me need the answers,

    and yes Scrapebox and Xrumer are both powerful tool to spam,
    But until one of my site blacklisted by Akismet I didn't know it is so dangerous.
    I already searched the forum before this thread,some did talked about Akismet on the forum but I think it seems not enoght and seems not many guys have interest in this topic(but it seems some guys with a blog have more interest on it since they are really happy to blacklist spams from Scrapebox or Xrumer).

    And I didn't see the seller of Scrapebox or Xrumer warned us on Akismet or something else like Akismet or give us some clue on how to avoid blacklisted on their products.

    Some people said must use proxy, yes it is right, but I believe it is far from enough, quite evident your website address seems to big problem, and even keyword could cause problem.Not using the money site?so it seems we must buy a lot of sites to protect it?because now more and more guys using srapebox and you can also read from this forum,the blog owners (including members from this forum)would not hesitate a second to put you in the spam list and I don't think it needs many posts to put you in the Akismet database.

    And Akismet for Blogs, What for Forums?I tried to search this forum but can't find the answer yet,Any anti-spam system on forums like Akismet so we must be careful on forum posting?And how?
     
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  2. TheInternetViking

    TheInternetViking Junior Member

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    Great Question! Come on, where are the BHW spam kings? we know you are here. Tell us what you do?

    I also want to know the answer to this question.

    ~The Internet Viking~
     
  3. newkid...

    newkid... Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Its a very valid question, though most of the experienced marketer suggest not to spam directly to your money website. Instead they advise you to use on web2 properties. And it does give strength to your money website.

    But in my experience even direct linking to your main website should not cause an issue if you are taking enough protection:

    (1) Multilevel spun version of comment - Do not spin just one or two word in a comment. Use it on a paragraph level, sentence level as well as word level. It dos consume half an hour of time but it will make sure that every comment generated are unique

    (2) Always go with slow comment posting:- When you go to sleep, that time you start the process... so sloe commenting will not irritate you

    (3) Change Anchor Text: Just like comment, dig keyword from MS or adwords tool and use multiple keyword instead of same Anchor link... Take 50 on average... say if you are blasting 500 comments... keep 10 different anchor text

    (4) Once you finish harvesting, do the index test and delete the blog page which are not indexed

    (5) Always delete the duplicate domain and not only duplicate URL> if the same blog owner receive two almost similar comments on 2 different post, he will surely mark your both comments spam
     
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  4. MarketerMac

    MarketerMac Regular Member

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    Or to sum all that up, make your spam look like it's not spam. Otherwise you deserve what you get.

    Also:
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    http://akismet.com/faq/
    
    check the 9th header down, read the paragraph, draw your own conclusions how to fix your problem. Akismet only learns from what blogs tell it, doesn't take a lot to figure out how to tell it what you want it to hear.
     
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  5. Klaus Rudolfsen

    Klaus Rudolfsen Registered Member

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    Because i don't have any private proxies yet, what i do sometimes is test my comments on my own blogs. This way i can see if the they get marked as spam in the first place by akismet because the harvested proxies are listed already...

    As well all of the above helps alot ^^
     
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  6. 123again

    123again Registered Member

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    Yes maybe slow comment and testing on your own blog may help the automatic system, but you know now many blog owners will still like to directly throw your comment into the spam list, when we are doing bulk posting but not manual posting I think it would be very dangerous.

    And how about XRUMER to forums? Anybody encountered trouble before? I saw Akismet also provide plugins to many diffrerent forums, and I ever tested one of my site(not Akismet blacklisted site) to xrumer. When I put this site in the profile, the successful rate very low, but when I put a fake site in the profile or even let the website address field empty, the successful rate immediately goes up? I don't know if it is just by by coincidence or another anti-spam system behind the forums, expectlly the high PR forums.
     
  7. bluegarden

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    Forums are also using Akismet protection specially SMF. they have a mod that installs Akistmet on Forums
     
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    How do you actually check to see if your site has been blacklisted by Akismet, be good to see if there was a form where you could log in and see if your site had been reported.

    Anyone know?
     
  9. ahhuat

    ahhuat Newbie

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    What is Aksmet protection?
     
  10. cooooookies

    cooooookies Senior Member

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    Well, annoying for forum spam is stopforumspam.com. Some forums are clever enough to receive users and IPs to be banned from that site. But askimet is way more used than that site... let's see what happens when the scrapeboard community grows :)
     
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    I'm pretty sure that if you found it on google, it will be indexed :p
     
  12. exchageis

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    Thanks NewKid... for the advice

    How about URL and anchor text in the comment body should this be avoided and only put your URL in the URL field of the comment? Do you avoid this?

    A URL in the comment body is more likely to look like SPAM
     
  13. exchageis

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    Thanks for the info NewKid...

    How about putting the URL and Anchor text in the body of the comment, should this be avoided? What do you do?
     
  14. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    just use fresh buffer sites and spam like crazy - then when your success levels drop rinse and repeat
     
  15. safex

    safex Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Well, try not to repeat comment before 15-20 days as if you do repeat comment then akismet gives you a Spam Badge otherwise as the akismet database clear spams after 15 days SO as it is not will be in database then it is not going to be blacklist.. Or best is to use Slow commenting.
     
  16. Franam

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    As a fresh ScrapeBox user from yesterday, I commented like a crazy and of course, my domain is now blacklisted (around 250 posts with same anchor :eek:) !
    I'm looking for some solution to be able to comment again, because my domain was my moneysite :(
    I heard about buying huge quantity of .info domain (20~30) and comment with these with a nice 301 to my blacklisted moneysite, what do you think about this solution ?
     
  17. tyler84

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    Good information, I'll have to try this