Scientists Find 47 Million year Old Missing Link

Moneymaka said:

Oh, so our brains developed because we used it more than any other type of animal.

It's pretty weird we were the only type that developed intelligence.

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no, our brains developed because of natural selection. Not just cuz we used it (although that helps develop the brain) but because it gave us an advantage.

Think of it like this:

bad mutation -> species will more likely die off
good mutation -> species will thrive because it has advantage


If all the bad shit dies out and all the good shit remains, think of how advanced something can evolve into.

thats weird.

on the subject of natural selection... parts of europe actually benefited from the bubonic plague, because only the strongest survived. it's like the 'star trek' episode 'the omega glory'
where they land on a planet populated by people who lived to be over a thousand because their ancestors survived a biological war.

fantasy, but roughly the same idea.

Darwin lost his faith when his daughter Annie caught scarlet fever and died at the age of 10.

exactly. Some people are immune to AIDS so if everyone in the whole world came in contact with AIDS, most people would die, but the ones left would not give a crap about AIDS anymore.

some people are immune to high cholesterol, this was shown on an episode of '60 minutes'. the people all lived in italy and somehow they became immune to the harmful effects of ingesting animal fat.

fusilli_jerry89 said:

wow, if I understand what you're saying properly, then you're an idiot.. Are you denying evolution, or just the article?

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Yes I do, and you said that I'm an idiot? I think that you're an idiot & a stupid person because of two points:

1- Moral point: because you don't respect other ideas/members.

2- Scientific point: you think (may be until your last day) that the denial of darwinism evolution is forbidden because this theory is a fact? heh! but there is no strong proof, for that we call it "a theory". and darwin did not own any proof in his life about his theories, just bio. assumptions..
Do you know the difference between theories and proved experiments in the last biological species studies ? I don't think so. what you know is just: heard "bla bla" and believe it!!! and if you like darwin, try to understand that we're in 2009, not in 1875.

sddk said:

Yes I do, and you said that I'm an idiot? I think that you're an idiot & a stupid person because of two points:

1- Moral point: because you don't respect other ideas/members.

2- Scientific point: you think (may be until your last day) that the denial of darwinism evolution is forbidden because this theory is a fact? heh! but there is no strong proof, for that we call it "a theory". and darwin did not own any proof in his life about his theories, just bio. assumptions..
Do you know the difference between theories and proved experiments in the last biological species studies ? I don't think so. what you know is just: heard "bla bla" and believe it!!! and if you like darwin, try to understand that we're in 2009, not in 1875.

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Your first point is incredibly hypocritical and your second is in no shape of form scientific. You seem to be having some trouble understanding the word theory when its used in a scientific context

"scientific theory is an established and experimentally verified fact or collection of facts about the world. Unlike the everyday use of the word theory, it is not an unproved idea, or just some theoretical speculation."

Fortunately evolution doesn't require your faith or belief to be true Stop acting like Darwin is where the theory began and ended, in the past 150 years our understanding of the evolutionary process has increased to the point it is now down right retarded to view it as anything other than factual

Perhaps you should google the subject and then think before you make a post, it may save you looking so ignorant in the future

sddk said:

Yes I do, and you said that I'm an idiot? I think that you're an idiot & a stupid person because of two points:

1- Moral point: because you don't respect other ideas/members.

2- Scientific point: you think (may be until your last day) that the denial of darwinism evolution is forbidden because this theory is a fact? heh! but there is no strong proof, for that we call it "a theory". and darwin did not own any proof in his life about his theories, just bio. assumptions..
Do you know the difference between theories and proved experiments in the last biological species studies ? I don't think so. what you know is just: heard "bla bla" and believe it!!! and if you like darwin, try to understand that we're in 2009, not in 1875.

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You are too ignorant to waste any effort on.. I'm not going to tell you something you can research on your own. So sick of people like you. They are the same types of people who won't use the damn search button on this forum.

edit: I suggest you look up the definition of "scientific theory" before you act like you know. It just makes you look like an idiot when you act like an expert on something you know nothing about.

hexalor said:

"A scientist with a degree"? Great. I have a 1st class with honours in math.

Having a "degree" doesn't make you a scientist.

I really don't get your point. It's just silly. We evolved from monkeys, end of story. A common ancestor just means we both evolved from the same species.

We were lemurs. Lemurs evolved into other things which eventually evolved into modern day humans. Otherwise what would be the whole point in the article?

They aren't creatures that just share something in common with us. We *EVOLVED* from them.

I'm really sick of arguing with idiots on here with low IQs. A real scientist wouldn't tell you he had a degree. Even when you get your Ph.D you're only just beginning your scientific career and can start to call yourself a scientist then.

What's your degree in? Arts?

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No genius, I have a physics degree. I know these facts because I have something you don't. Experience. I have done labs that prove this kind of thing. You really have no idea what you are talking about. There is a difference between reading, and doing the experiments yourself, and proving it to yourself.

The only reason why I said I have a degree is because people tend to follow ethos more than logos, especially on the internet. People are too damn lazy and stupid to do research themselves. Why should I waste my time trying to convince people that aren't willing to learn?

Drive down to your local university and you can see this proof for yourself.. Jesus f christ. And no offense, but the fact that you don't get my point just proves it further.

It's not hard to understand jesus christ. And stop saying monkeys. It's apes, there is a difference. Ignorance..

If you can't understand this then you are truly dumb:
"The apes of today are different than the ones of millions of years ago. We evolved from the apes of millions of years ago, not the ones today. The apes of today came from the apes of millions of years ago. So did we. We did NOT come from the apes of today. End of story.

edit: Go argue with Darwin. He'll say i'm right.

hexalor said:

Eh? More nonsense. Humans are part of the "Great Ape" family.

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Again, I'm talking about present day apes because that's what most people think of when they think of apes. If you want me to be more scientifically correct, just say so and we will leave all the unintelligent ones in this discussion behind.

edit: looking at my previous post, I admit that it sounds a bit confusing when I refer to apes. Again, when I was saying apes I meant the apes of today. Let's just call them apes II and let's call the old apes that we evolved from apes I.

Yes, humans and apes II evolved from apes I. There. Is the refutal resolved?

jonny110 said:

Utter load of bollocks. We were placed on this planet by aliens who will one day come back and enslave us as bitches and we will all be wiping an aliens ass. Are you all f***king stupid? So obvious. Otherwise, how do you explian gordon brown and george bush?

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LOL! Strangely enough, I would like to believe in this theory... not!:chairshot

Here you go: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=107961

edit: Read and learn something. I'm sorry hexalor. You are smarter than most of the people in this discussion, but unfortunately you are not exactly correct.

Maybe the people who reject the scientifical validity of evolutionism, claiming it is "not demonstrated", should try to write down their own experimental condition to accept it as valid. They should formulate a precise kind of verification test, hopefully pertinent, that they will be bound to consider decisive and resolutive about the issue, whatever the outcome.....

in poor words: "I will believe in it IF - [put relevant and related fact to be checked here]".

The rest is metaphysics.

... if someone can show me a video of snails turning into politicians over a period of generations.