Scammed by Sinkysinky for $162

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  1. oplaopla

    oplaopla Regular Member

    Feb 8, 2012
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    I'm not really writing this thread in an attempt to recover my money (although that would be great) but rather to avoid any other users falling for the same scam. Basically, I was looking for wholesale Jawbone Jambox's and Sinkysinky offered me to provide me with some for $74 a piece +$7 shipping. I originally sent the money as services on PayPal but he told me it wasn't good because PayPal was placing a hold on the funds (which was true) so we tried a few different methods before I had to reluctantly send him the funds through PayPal gift option (which doesn't place a hold on the funds). I think what made me fall for the scam is the fact that the only thing he seemed concerned about was the hold on the funds and not getting me to pay through gift option. Needless to say I never received the product or was provided with a Tracking ID. He hasn't come online on Skype since the chat log below. On top of getting scammed, I only had $250 in that bank account and since PayPal is dumb they tried to charge me 4 times so I got a lot of bank fees from that (fortunately I got those back). Does anyone know whether the note I put in the gift payment has me covered or whether there is another way to get gift payments back? Thanks for the help and please deal with this user as soon as possible.

    Skype log:
    [12/12/2013 8:19:12 PM] Lizard Head: Hi[12/12/2013 8:19:45 PM] Sinky: Hi, my supply channel has access to jambox's black diamond and gh models
    [12/12/2013 8:20:08 PM] Lizard Head: Alright awesome
    [12/12/2013 8:20:15 PM] Lizard Head: How much can you get them from
    [12/12/2013 8:20:27 PM] Sinky: 74$ a piece
    [12/12/2013 8:20:42 PM] Lizard Head: That's awesome!
    [12/12/2013 8:20:55 PM] Lizard Head: Are you sure these are legit jamboxes?
    [12/12/2013 8:21:03 PM] Lizard Head: Not the cheap Chinese versions
    [12/12/2013 8:21:28 PM] Sinky: Yes completely, I offer a 30 day returns, your welcome to inspect them upon delivery but I can confirm they are authentic, I don't deal with fakes. My suppliers are all us bred and european
    [12/12/2013 8:21:51 PM] Lizard Head: How much is shipping?
    [12/12/2013 8:22:25 PM] Sinky: Over 6 units free, 2-6 units 7$ a piece up to a price of 3 pieces
    [12/12/2013 8:23:11 PM] Lizard Head: I can order 1 unit as a test right?
    [12/12/2013 8:23:26 PM] Sinky: I have a moq of 2 on items like this as I have to go through my supplier, but two is fine.
    [12/12/2013 8:23:35 PM] Sinky: Your welcome to put my terms in the payment note.
    [12/12/2013 8:23:44 PM] Sinky: The warranty and 30 day returns window
    [12/12/2013 8:23:50 PM] Lizard Head: Alright so you don't do dropshipping then?
    [12/12/2013 8:24:04 PM] Sinky: Subject to them being authentic and tested, and no not right now to be fair, I mean, do you have a customer ready?
    [12/12/2013 8:24:34 PM] Lizard Head: I had 2 this afternoon and had to cancel the orders because best buy sold out lol
    [12/12/2013 8:24:52 PM] Sinky: Well I mean, your welcome to buy two of me and I'll ship them to your customers address, but my moq is 2
    [12/12/2013 8:25:15 PM] Sinky: E.g your welcome to pay for two now and update me with the shipping info when you've received them, but you'd have to pay then 2 x 7$ shipping fees
    [12/12/2013 8:25:17 PM] Lizard Head: Ok so if I pay ahead it's fiine
    [12/12/2013 8:25:33 PM] Sinky: Yes, just notify me by email if you need them shipped out asap
    [12/12/2013 8:25:40 PM] Sinky: Or skype if i'm on, but I'm on most of the time
    [12/12/2013 8:26:07 PM] Lizard Head: Ok I'll order 2 for myself at first as I obviously want to check that they are legit
    [12/12/2013 8:26:18 PM] Sinky: Yes that's fine.
    [12/12/2013 8:26:50 PM] Lizard Head: Alright send your PayPal and I'll send the funds right now with all the payment terms in the payments note
    [12/12/2013 8:27:43 PM] Sinky: please add in the instructions the following.
    [12/12/2013 8:28:20 PM] Sinky: Colours
    I am buying on the terms that both Jambox's are authentic and working, also brand new. The seller has offered me a 30 day money back garuantee, and a 60 day warranty.
    [12/12/2013 8:28:34 PM] Lizard Head: It says "Jawbone Jambox Quantity:1"
    [12/12/2013 8:28:54 PM] Sinky: sec
    [12/12/2013 8:29:25 PM] Sinky:
    [12/12/2013 8:29:31 PM] Sinky: also just to warn you
    [12/12/2013 8:29:44 PM] Sinky: my access to this stock isn't that that high, I can get a good amount weekly
    [12/12/2013 8:29:46 PM] Sinky: But nothing in the 100s
    [12/12/2013 8:30:07 PM] Lizard Head: no problem. I'm not planning on selling over 100/month
    [12/12/2013 8:34:29 PM] Lizard Head: Sen
    [12/12/2013 8:34:31 PM] Lizard Head: sent*
    [12/12/2013 8:35:57 PM] Sinky: I saw it, but my partner rejected it for some reason, I have to invoice you it I've just been told
    [12/12/2013 8:36:09 PM] Sinky: As I have to put the terms in from my end in the notes section.
    [12/12/2013 8:36:16 PM] Sinky: ********** I assume?
    [12/12/2013 8:36:19 PM] Lizard Head: Yes
    [12/12/2013 8:37:00 PM] Sinky: Done.
    [12/12/2013 8:37:21 PM] Sinky: Also sorry which colours
    [12/12/2013 8:37:53 PM] Lizard Head: Black
    [12/12/2013 8:38:06 PM] Lizard Head: But you sent the invoice as a "service"
    [12/12/2013 8:38:11 PM] Lizard Head: not as "goods"
    [12/12/2013 8:38:16 PM] Sinky: Yes, I have to pay my supplier remember.
    [12/12/2013 8:38:25 PM] Sinky: So the funds need to be made avaliable to me immediately.
    [12/12/2013 8:38:29 PM] Lizard Head: Oh ok
    [12/12/2013 8:40:42 PM] Sinky: Can you ring Paypal please to ask them to remove the funds as pending, because I'm unable to place your order whilst it's as pending
    [12/12/2013 8:40:57 PM] Sinky: Related Transaction
     Date  Type  Status  Details  Gross  Fee  Net
     13 Dec 2013 Payment  PendingPayPal has placed a temporary hold while we're reviewing it. We'll contact you shortly with further information.PayPal has placed a temporary hold while we're reviewing it. We'll contact you shortly with further information.  Details -$155.38 USD  ...  -$155.38 USD
    [12/12/2013 8:41:41 PM] Lizard Head: Do you know why it's doing that?
    [12/12/2013 8:42:30 PM] Sinky: Not sure, I believe it's because you have to complete 40 ebay payments to not get a hold on goods payments, that's what I was told before, and as my main dealing is in cd keys/xbl/psn, I haven't done that in the 4 years I've had my Paypal. Perhaps you can send it as 'other family and friends' with the following note
    [12/12/2013 8:42:58 PM] Sinky: I am paying for two physical items, Jawbone Jambox's shipped to my address. This includes a 30 day money back guarantee from the day of delivery, and a 60 day warranty from the day of delivery.
    [12/12/2013 8:43:05 PM] Sinky: That should make it avaliable to me, want to give that a try?
    [12/12/2013 8:43:17 PM] Lizard Head: I'd rather not send it as gift payment
    [12/12/2013 8:43:32 PM] Sinky: I understand, how ever you are covered if you put that note i believe from experience.
    [12/12/2013 8:43:43 PM] Sinky: Your perhaps can put this if needs be
    [12/12/2013 8:44:05 PM] Sinky: 'I'm paying for these physical items by this personal payment as good's place a hold on the money and the merchant need's the funds made avaliable immediately'
    [12/12/2013 8:44:11 PM] Sinky: I am a business Paypal if that helps your confidence.
    [12/12/2013 8:44:31 PM] Lizard Head: I would rather wait until the transaction is processed
    [12/12/2013 8:44:46 PM] Lizard Head: When you click the "pending" what does it say?
    [12/12/2013 8:44:47 PM] Sinky: Well can you contact Paypal to remove the hold?
    [12/12/2013 8:45:04 PM] Sinky: Type To/From Name/Email Date Status Details Gross Fee Net Amount Release Date
    Payment Received From ************ 13 Dec 2013 Completed Details $162.00 USD -$6.62 USD $155.38 USD 3 Jan 2014
    [12/12/2013 8:45:10 PM] Lizard Head: On my side, it says the payment has been combleted
    [12/12/2013 8:46:10 PM] Lizard Head: Don't you have funds in your PayPal that you can use, while the transaction is processed
    [12/12/2013 8:46:27 PM] Sinky: I do but not as such for this, the funds in my business account are for a re-order of stock at 9am.
    [12/12/2013 8:46:33 PM] Sinky: Or else I would have suggested that.
    [12/12/2013 8:47:03 PM] Sinky: You should have faith, I do think you are very much covered with that personal option as long as you put in a note.
    [12/12/2013 8:47:19 PM] Sinky: Or do you have any other suggestions.
    [12/12/2013 8:47:42 PM] Lizard Head: How about we wait until tommorow and see?
    [12/12/2013 8:47:56 PM] Lizard Head: I've dealt with PayPal support before and absolutely hate it
    [12/12/2013 8:48:04 PM] Sinky: Sure. We have one more option, when you paid the invoice just.
    [12/12/2013 8:48:10 PM] Sinky: Did it give you an option to add/remove address
    [12/12/2013 8:48:24 PM] Lizard Head: Maybe?
    [12/12/2013 8:48:41 PM] Lizard Head: But that would imply I'm paying for a virtual product
    [12/12/2013 8:49:01 PM] Sinky: Not at all, I am putting in the note this is a complete physical item and by paying you are accepting the note, I have dealt plenty of times like this as such.
    [12/12/2013 8:49:22 PM] Sinky: The service of me processing the order through my suppliers for yourself, check the note on the invoice for accuracy.
    [12/12/2013 8:50:24 PM] Sinky: The customer is paying for two physical item's shipped to his physical address. These items are Jawbone Jambox's black.
    This is for a physical shipped item.
    Comes with a 30 day money back guarantee and a 60 day warranty upon the delivery date.
    [12/12/2013 8:50:52 PM] Lizard Head: But then there is no indication of the actual address you will send the product to
    [12/12/2013 8:51:04 PM] Sinky: I can put that in the note if you wish.
    [12/12/2013 8:51:11 PM] Sinky: Your full address so it's recorded on the transaction.
    [12/12/2013 8:51:38 PM] Lizard Head: I'm sorry if I seem paranoid, I'm just doing everything possible to avoid having to open a shitlist thread on BHW
    [12/12/2013 8:51:44 PM] Lizard Head: And yeah that works
    [12/12/2013 8:51:49 PM] Sinky: I agree with you, I would be the same, what's your address
    [12/12/2013 8:52:06 PM] Lizard Head: ***************
    [12/12/2013 8:52:13 PM] Lizard Head: ***************
    [12/12/2013 8:53:46 PM] Sinky: Check the invoice.
    [12/12/2013 8:54:59 PM] Lizard Head: I actually can't get rid of the address
    [12/12/2013 8:55:16 PM] Sinky: Oh, more obstacles, from my experience when paying them myself you can?
    [12/12/2013 8:55:39 PM] Sinky: Can you direct send then with that note, it's accurate to the trade describing it's a physical item and your address.
    [12/12/2013 8:55:47 PM] Lizard Head: I just sent the money. How about you wait until tommorow and see?
    [12/12/2013 8:56:35 PM] Sinky: It will always be like that, I have had this before from people. Tomorrow won't make a difference. I can hand on heart saying paying me direct will be the solution and work, you can put the note as you wish to protect yourself, then I can get this processed tonight.
    [12/12/2013 8:56:45 PM] Sinky: 
    Transactions affecting your available balance
    Type To/From Name/Email Date Status Details Gross Fee Net Amount Release Date
    Payment Received From *********** 13 Dec 2013 Completed Details $162.00 USD -$6.62 USD $155.38 USD 3 Jan 2014
    [12/12/2013 8:57:32 PM] Lizard Head: Is it still saying it's pending?
    [12/12/2013 8:57:38 PM] Sinky: Yes
    [12/12/2013 8:59:42 PM] Sinky: The reason I'm trying to get this resolved now is it's 2am and my suppliers are american contacts, I'm never usually on this late as I work a real job also so I'm trying to get this sorted whilst I'm on and I can sort it with them if you understand
    [12/12/2013 9:02:36 PM] Lizard Head: So you think the payment will be blocked forever?
    [12/12/2013 9:02:58 PM] Sinky: Not blocked, but as you send it with your address it will pend for 21 days as I have no ebay history, only plenty of other deals.
    [12/12/2013 9:03:11 PM] Sinky: I have done 100s transactions on Paypal and can say this is a way around it
    [12/12/2013 9:04:08 PM] Sinky: If it helps I can have a valid tracking for you tomorrow.
    [12/12/2013 9:04:13 PM] Lizard Head: Deal
    [12/12/2013 9:04:26 PM] Sinky: Ok please re-send.
    [12/12/2013 9:05:07 PM] Lizard Head: PayPal email again?
    [12/12/2013 9:05:31 PM] Sinky: [email protected] please add the warranty and money back note
    [12/12/2013 9:10:36 PM] Sinky: Paid?
    [12/12/2013 9:12:08 PM] Lizard Head: Sent
    [12/12/2013 9:12:45 PM] Lizard Head: So you WILL have a tracking ID by tommorow right?
    [12/12/2013 9:13:17 PM] Sinky: Money received
    [12/12/2013 9:13:37 PM] Sinky: And well, can you give me 10 minutes to coherse with my supplier, then I can get everything you need like delivery date option of couriers ect
    [12/12/2013 9:13:53 PM] Lizard Head: Alright
    [12/12/2013 9:22:31 PM] Sinky: Can I ask a favour, can you send me 5 payments please as goods, all 0.5$ and I will refund them all
    [12/12/2013 9:22:56 PM] Sinky: Completed 40 transactions without any buyer disputes, claims or returns. I've done 35/40 and it seems when you pay me and I refund, it classes as a completed payment
    [12/12/2013 9:24:32 PM] Lizard Head: Can you refund the other payment I made then?
    [12/12/2013 9:24:56 PM] Sinky: I have already paid my supplier that's not possible.. I'm just asking so for future reference we can use goods,
    [12/12/2013 9:25:06 PM] Sinky: I mean you can send 0.1$, I will refund them instantly, if not no worries
    [12/12/2013 9:25:08 PM] Lizard Head: Ok
    [12/12/2013 9:25:10 PM] Sinky: It's just helping my Paypal out
    [12/12/2013 9:28:20 PM] Lizard Head: Done
    [12/12/2013 9:28:54 PM] Lizard Head: Ok, so you will have the tracking ID by tommorow right?
    [12/12/2013 9:29:03 PM] Sinky: Oh, didn't work, still at 35/40, thought it would work. Yes by around this time tomorrow.
    [12/12/2013 9:29:36 PM] Lizard Head: I actually sent 7 payment ...
    [12/12/2013 9:29:47 PM] Lizard Head: Whoops
    [12/12/2013 9:31:03 PM] Sinky: you going offline now?
    [12/12/2013 9:31:07 PM] Sinky: what colours again
    [12/12/2013 9:31:47 PM] Lizard Head: Black
    [12/12/2013 9:31:50 PM] Lizard Head: for both
    [12/12/2013 9:32:21 PM] Lizard Head: Did you refund the PayPal payments by the way
    [12/12/2013 9:32:23 PM] Lizard Head: ?
    [12/12/2013 9:32:30 PM] Lizard Head: Not that it really matters
    [12/12/2013 9:32:37 PM] Sinky: done 2
    [12/12/2013 9:32:40 PM] Lizard Head: Oh
    [12/12/2013 9:32:59 PM] Sinky: oh
    [12/12/2013 9:33:03 PM] Sinky: it's actually updating 36/40
    [12/12/2013 9:33:21 PM] Lizard Head: cool
    [12/12/2013 9:46:47 PM] Sinky: Ok it's fine now, heading of in 30 minutes, before I go can i interest you in a slightly larger order of 4 units, on orders of 4 + your paying 68$ a unit and shipping fee's waived, + a 2% discount on tier 2 orders which is 4, the 2 additional units can be paid as goods if that interest's you so 100% protection
    [12/12/2013 9:47:37 PM] Sinky: We are pleased to let you know that, starting today, money from payments you receive will no longer be placed in a pending balance and will be immediately available to you.
    [12/12/2013 9:48:07 PM] Lizard Head: I'd much rather recieve the two I've ordered so far to check them and then I'll order more.
    [12/12/2013 9:48:30 PM] Sinky: No problem, just thought i'd mention it as you'd save around 50-60$ by ordering an additional two but no prob
    [12/12/2013 10:17:58 PM] Sinky: Ok
    [12/12/2013 10:18:01 PM] Sinky: Of to bed, cya tomorrow
    [12/12/2013 10:18:10 PM] Lizard Head: bye
    [12/13/2013 10:35:33 PM] Lizard Head: Waiting for the tracking ID ...
    [12/14/2013 12:47:40 PM] Lizard Head: Hey man
    [12/14/2013 12:47:44 PM] Sinky: Hi
    [12/14/2013 12:47:56 PM] Sinky: Had work party last night, didn't make it on.
    [12/14/2013 12:48:01 PM] Lizard Head: Oh
    [12/14/2013 12:48:06 PM] Lizard Head: You got the Tracking ID?
    [12/14/2013 12:48:57 PM] Sinky: I have to wait for my USA supplier to come online
    [12/14/2013 12:49:02 PM] Sinky: So that will be early morning for me
    [12/14/2013 12:49:05 PM] Sinky: Same time we dealt
    [12/14/2013 12:49:24 PM] Lizard Head: Alright so buy about 2 AM your time?
    [12/14/2013 12:52:26 PM] Lizard Head: by*
    [12/14/2013 5:16:08 PM] Lizard Head: You will have the tracking code in about 5 hours right?
    [12/14/2013 8:22:09 PM] Sinky: Yes
    [12/14/2013 10:21:39 PM] Lizard Head: Do you have the tracking ID now?
    [12/14/2013 10:21:52 PM] Sinky: Not yet waiting for him to come online.
    [12/14/2013 10:22:53 PM] Lizard Head: I thought you had already sent the payment two days ago so didn't he give you a tracking ID by now?
    [12/14/2013 10:23:41 PM] Sinky: Because It wouldn't have gone until Fri morning and usually it takes 24 hours for couriers to update with the tracking, also I have to be online to request it from him
    [12/14/2013 10:24:09 PM] Lizard Head: But you HAVE forwarded the order to him right?
    [12/14/2013 10:24:19 PM] Sinky: Yes it's paid ect all processed
    [12/14/2013 10:24:42 PM] Lizard Head: Ok
    [12/14/2013 10:25:02 PM] Lizard Head: What time does he usually come online?
    [12/14/2013 11:17:32 PM] Lizard Head: Is he online yet?
    [12/14/2013 11:17:52 PM] Sinky: Ill check in 15 minutes, watching the boxing.
    [12/14/2013 11:18:08 PM] Lizard Head: Alright ...
    [12/14/2013 11:57:36 PM] Lizard Head: Did you check?
    [12/14/2013 11:58:19 PM] Sinky: Yes, he hasn't got it yet. Need to wait until Monday morning when he goes to Fedex depot.
    [12/14/2013 11:58:24 PM] Sinky: But it was shipped out on Friday.
    [12/14/2013 11:58:30 PM] Sinky: Well, handed over to fedex.
    [12/14/2013 11:58:56 PM] Lizard Head: So you will give me a tracking ID on Monday
    [12/14/2013 11:59:04 PM] Sinky: Yes midday
    [12/14/2013 11:59:09 PM] Lizard Head: for you?
    [12/14/2013 11:59:15 PM] Sinky: Yeah so that's morning for you
    [12/14/2013 11:59:19 PM] Lizard Head: alright
    [12/14/2013 11:59:30 PM] Lizard Head: so like 2 PM your time?
    [12/14/2013 11:59:36 PM] Sinky: yes
    [12/15/2013 12:00:04 AM] Lizard Head: Alright, I'll contact you then
    [12/16/2013 7:46:13 AM] Lizard Head: Waiting for the tracking ID
    [12/16/2013 8:01:57 AM] Lizard Head: Hi
    [12/16/2013 8:02:01 AM] Sinky: Hi.
    [12/16/2013 8:02:12 AM] Lizard Head: Do you have the tracking ID yet?
    [12/16/2013 8:02:21 AM] Sinky: We will speak at 2.
    [12/16/2013 8:02:47 AM] Lizard Head: Oh right, I thought 2 PM was 8 AM my tiime
    [12/16/2013 8:02:58 AM] Lizard Head: But now that I think about it, it's 9 AM
    [12/16/2013 8:03:08 AM] Sinky: Oh just saw the time it's actually 2.03
    [12/16/2013 8:03:14 AM] Sinky: thought it was around 12, just woke up you see.
    [12/16/2013 8:03:20 AM] Lizard Head: ok
    [12/16/2013 8:03:25 AM] Sinky: Give me 10 minutes to try contact my supplier
    [12/16/2013 8:03:29 AM] Lizard Head: Alright
    [12/16/2013 8:18:34 AM] Lizard Head: Got it yet?
    [12/16/2013 8:18:56 AM] Sinky: No not yet
    [12/16/2013 8:56:58 AM] Lizard Head: At what time does your supplier usually come online?
    [12/16/2013 8:57:55 AM] Sinky: Well he is from Miami so i assume that's -6 hours
    [12/16/2013 8:57:55 AM] Sinky: Which would make it 8am now?
    [12/16/2013 8:58:05 AM] Sinky: Sorry 9am
    [12/16/2013 8:58:05 AM] Sinky: And he starts work at that time, so around now
    [12/16/2013 8:59:22 AM] Lizard Head: Alright cool
    [12/16/2013 9:01:17 AM] Sinky: what's the time now in Miami
    [12/16/2013 9:01:20 AM] Sinky: am i correct, 9?
    [12/16/2013 9:01:58 AM] Lizard Head: Yes it's 9
    [12/16/2013 9:19:30 AM] Lizard Head: Any luck yet?
    [12/16/2013 9:21:09 AM] Sinky: I will message you as soon as I get it.
    [12/16/2013 9:21:22 AM] Sinky: I'm online all day.
    [12/16/2013 9:23:07 AM] Lizard Head: lright
    [12/16/2013 9:23:13 AM] Lizard Head: Alright*
    [12/16/2013 11:00:52 AM] Lizard Head: Still hasn't gotten on?
    [12/16/2013 11:01:38 AM] Sinky: Not in position to check right now, at work, please be patient, regardless if i give it you now which i can't anyway as i'm at work, or in 30 days, it will not effect the delivery time, it was sent out friday so today would be the first business day in ukraine
    [12/16/2013 11:03:19 AM] Lizard Head: I know but after 45 days, I can't chargeback on PayPal
    [12/16/2013 11:03:34 AM] Sinky: It should be with you this week.
    [12/16/2013 11:03:48 AM] Sinky: 45 days most definitely not longer then 7 business days
    [12/16/2013 11:04:15 AM] Lizard Head: Alright cool
    [12/17/2013 11:55:40 AM] Lizard Head: Hey man, I'm just worried because you told me I would have the tracking ID the day after the purchase. Then, you said you couldn't reach your supplier and told me you would give it on Monday. You didn't give it to me on Monday and I'm still waiting for it. I'm sure you understand that if you were in my position, you would be worried too. I'm just looking for a way to know that the order is actually on its way. Thanks.
    [12/18/2013 4:45:23 PM] Lizard Head: If I don't get the products in 2 days or am not provided a tracking ID, I will chargeback on PayPal
    [12/18/2013 5:26:36 PM] Sinky: Sorry?
    [12/18/2013 5:27:32 PM] Lizard Head: I'm saying that you still haven't given me the tracking ID and you said the products would get here this week so you are find with me doing a chargeback if the products don't get here by the end of the week right?
    [12/18/2013 5:28:49 PM] Sinky: The first working day would be monday.
    [12/18/2013 5:29:09 PM] Sinky: So until next monday, however why would you when I even told you likely end of the week, would you leave me a message of threat
    [12/18/2013 5:30:11 PM] Lizard Head: Because you keep making promises like "I will have the tracking ID tomorrow and crap and you haven't completed any of them yet
    [12/18/2013 5:31:04 PM] Sinky: I said that once, Monday, bare in mind I sell 1000s of products monthly, your order, 2 units is prob the last thing on my mind and if that means staying up at 2-3 am to get the tracking, I won't do that
    [12/18/2013 5:31:16 PM] Lizard Head: And I'm pretty angry because I found out that because you made me pay with tons of different methods on PayPal, instead of getting refunded each time, PayPal charged my bank each time and I got $120 in bank fees
    [12/18/2013 5:31:36 PM] Sinky: 120$ in fees? from what.
    [12/18/2013 5:31:49 PM] Lizard Head: You say you sell 1000s of products monthly but you only had 35 transactions
    [12/18/2013 5:31:59 PM] Lizard Head: $120 in fees from insufficient fund fees
    [12/18/2013 5:31:59 PM] Sinky: No
    [12/18/2013 5:32:07 PM] Sinky: 35 goods transactions
    [12/18/2013 5:32:16 PM] Sinky: I sell virtual goods remember as my main channel
    [12/18/2013 5:32:19 PM] Lizard Head: Oh
    [12/18/2013 5:33:06 PM] Lizard Head: Anyways I had $250 in that bank account and PayPal tried to charge me 4x $162 so I had to pay 4x $30 fees
    [12/18/2013 5:33:35 PM] Lizard Head: So you understand how frustrated I'll be if I don't get the products
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  2. OldSalt

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    Sinkysinky is the accused and has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this thread.

    On a side note, What were you thinking???? This user created an his account THAT DAY and you sent him $162 - and as a gift on top of all that?

    People, you have to use the brain that God gave you before you send your money to someone you don't personally know!

    PS. REMINDER Shit list rule #4:
    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
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  3. oplaopla

    oplaopla Regular Member

    Feb 8, 2012
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    Yeah, I realized that afterwards and felt really stupid about it. Thanks for approving the thread.
  4. Jackazoid

    Jackazoid Newbie

    Dec 12, 2013
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    I've been scammed by Sinky also. I can provide proof if needed.
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  5. OldSalt

    OldSalt Ex-Mod taking a sabbatical

    May 19, 2009
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    IT Sys Admin
    US, East Coast
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  6. Jackazoid

    Jackazoid Newbie

    Dec 12, 2013
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    You have to many restrictions on posting proof. So if you need proof email me.

    Edit: I sent a Skype log.
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  7. OldSalt

    OldSalt Ex-Mod taking a sabbatical

    May 19, 2009
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    Sinkysinky perma-banned.

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  8. Jackazoid

    Jackazoid Newbie

    Dec 12, 2013
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    Proof sent to Blackhatworld. No response. This asshole now calls himself JAZZ on skype.
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  9. OldSalt

    OldSalt Ex-Mod taking a sabbatical

    May 19, 2009
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    You sent me the proof and your response is above - he was perma-banned Jan 8th.

  10. michela

    michela Regular Member

    Nov 23, 2013
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    thank so much to share your bad experience with this guy :|