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Scammed by LightBuLbs

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by 17wyncrest, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. 17wyncrest

    17wyncrest Registered Member

    Apr 11, 2013
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    I'd like to start by saying that I take no pleasure in writing anything in this section.  It takes time away from work but needs to be done to expose people like in my situation.

    I placed a post in Hire a Freelancer to have a programmer build an automation tool.  BHW registered member LightBuLbs sent me a private message to communicate with him on Skype to talk further on the project.  The quoted price was $250 with half payment upfront.

    [4/7/16, 12:29:52 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hi
    [4/7/16, 12:28 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hello there, is that all the features you needed?
    [4/7/16, 12:25 PM] sm.mkt: Yes, at the moment those are the features I would need. Are you familiar with periscope api?
    [4/7/16, 12:45 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): yes
    [4/7/16, 12:04 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): when do you want this started? and how much are you willing to spend?
    [4/7/16, 12:09 PM] sm.mkt: is this doable? complicated? does their api change often?
    [4/7/16, 12:45 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): yes its doable,their api change but not too often
    [4/7/16, 12:40 PM] sm.mkt: The sooner the better for me. i am going to get a couple bids and see where the prices come in. can you give me some details about how the bot would be created, what platform. and cost to create and upkeep?
    [4/7/16, 12:11 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): python, with easy UI, cost: 250 upkeep $20, TAT: 96hr
    [4/7/16, 12:47 PM] sm.mkt: ok - and how do you do payments?
    [4/7/16, 12:37:18 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 50% initial / 50% upon completion, tested and satisfied

    Then everything was understood/agreed too. Upfront payment was then sent.

    [4/7/16, 12:44 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): [email protected] - kindly send 50% initial as personal payment option if paypal
    [4/7/16, 12:46:58 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): notify me if payment is made, so i can check and start working on this project
    [4/7/16, 12:48:59 PM] sm.mkt: payment sent
    [4/7/16, 12:49:05 PM] sm.mkt: please confirm
    [4/7/16, 12:49:12 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay give me a moment to check and confirm
    [4/7/16, 12:50:47 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): Kevxx Wxxxxxxxx
    [4/7/16, 12:50:51 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): right?
    [4/7/16, 12:50:51 PM] sm.mkt: yes
    [4/7/16, 12:50:58 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay confirmed

    Then communication started to drop with false promises and delays to the point of no communication.

    [4/9/16, 11:07 AM] sm.mkt: how is the bot development going?
    [4/10/16, 8:09 PM] sm.mkt: you around?
    [4/11/16, 10:54 AM] sm.mkt: Guy, am I going to have to request money back via paypal and blast you on BHW for being a scam? Whats the deal
    [4/11/16, 10:51 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): scam? i did not scammed you, still under develop
    [4/11/16, 10:21 AM] sm.mkt: Ok, I have just send you multiple messages since we last talked and didn't receive any response so I was unsure what was going on
    [4/11/16, 10:23 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 80% complete, you may have it by tomorrow
    [4/11/16, 10:55 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): just busy on this project that is why i have no time to check skype
    [4/11/16, 10:58 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): sorry
    [4/11/16, 10:05 AM] sm.mkt: ok no problem - good to hear. thank you
    [4/11/16, 10:25:40 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): your welcome mate
    [4/11/16, 10:25:46 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): thank you too..
    [4/12/16, 2:52 PM] sm.mkt: hello, hows it going?
    [4/12/16, 5:14:57 PM] sm.mkt: please provide me an update on bot
    [4/12/16, 5:05 PM] sm.mkt: Please send me screen shot of progress
    [4/13/16, 12:32 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay will do
    [4/13/16, 7:25:39 AM] sm.mkt: Please send me screen shots
    [4/13/16, 7:07 AM] sm.mkt: And update please.
    [4/13/16, 11:53:28 PM] sm.mkt: Update please sir. We are now going 4 days pas due date. Also going twice the amount of time expecting to complete in. Given we have never worked together and that you haven't been able to give a decent update I am starting to feel very much are risk with the money I passed to you. Please provide me an update within 12 hours
    [4/14/16, 11:47 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): sending it on saturday mate
    [4/14/16, 11:18 AM] sm.mkt: saturday?
    [4/14/16, 11:37 AM] sm.mkt: it was suppose to be done by sunday. on tuesday you were 80% done. why satruday?
    [4/14/16, 11:46 AM] sm.mkt: I need screen shots of progress please
    [4/14/16, 12:26:23 PM] sm.mkt: If I don't receive screenshot of progress and details i will be filing a claim with paypal and posting on bhw regarding this. I will wait until tomorrow at 12pm pst.
    [4/15/16, 8:59 AM] sm.mkt: Sir do you not have a response?
    [4/15/16, 8:48:00 AM] sm.mkt: You're a scammer man. You leave me nothing else to believe. I am just going to put you up on BHW as that
    [4/15/16, 10:20:43 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i am not a scammer
    [4/15/16, 10:20:56 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): did you read my messages?
    [4/15/16, 10:05 AM] sm.mkt: sir, you continue to postpone the completion date and don't provide me any info or photos of the progress. I don't believe you. Explain yourself. Its very simple. Tell me where were at. whats done. what isn't. send me screen shots of the progress
    [4/15/16, 10:12 AM] sm.mkt: ITS NOT COMPLICATED
    [4/15/16, 11:42 AM] sm.mkt: I'm not sending you more money until I test the final product. Don't even think the ask for more money before that.
    [4/15/16, 11:54 AM] sm.mkt: If the bot is completed then send me a screen shot now. That's common sense
    [4/15/16, 11:46 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): well the bot is completed
    [4/15/16, 11:47 AM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): will send you screenshot on saturday before sending the bot
    [4/15/16, 12:26:13 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i am on a business trip,wait till i get back
    [4/15/16, 12:26:17 PM] |ight bu|bz (ideas): thanks
    [4/15/16, 12:26:53 PM] sm.mkt: If I don't hear from you on Saturday I will report online.
    [4/16/16, 8:50:44 AM] sm.mkt: Ok sir. This is it for me. Provide me what you "have"
    [4/16/16, 1:34 PM] sm.mkt: you have 12 hours. this is the last delay/warning

    I hope this will at least help others who may do business with him....
  2. OldSalt

    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

    May 19, 2009
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    LightBuLbs has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    Reminder to everyone else:
    Shit list rule #4:
    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
  3. miggon

    miggon Newbie

    Apr 5, 2011
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    Me too, LightBuLbs scammed me $50

    Here is the copy and paste of our conversation on Skype:

    [13/04/2016 08:44:06 | Modifié (08:44:08)] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hi there
    [13/04/2016 08:44:14] |ight bu|bz (ideas): what was the add for?
    [13/04/2016 09:01:41] M G: Hi
    [13/04/2016 09:01:54] M G: I want to convert ios traffic is clicks
    [13/04/2016 09:03:23] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay, how much traffic do you receive?
    [13/04/2016 09:03:49] M G: Over 100 000 per month
    [13/04/2016 09:04:05] |ight bu|bz (ideas): how much are you paying for conversion
    [13/04/2016 09:04:05] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ?
    [13/04/2016 09:04:25] M G: $200
    [13/04/2016 09:04:49] |ight bu|bz (ideas): and when do you plan to start this project?
    [13/04/2016 09:05:09 | Modifié (09:05:12)] M G: As soon as possible
    [13/04/2016 09:06:32] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i am able to start today if needed.
    [13/04/2016 09:06:41] M G: Ok what is your price?
    [13/04/2016 09:08:01] |ight bu|bz (ideas): for 100k traffic conversion?
    [13/04/2016 09:08:11] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i can deal with that budget of yours
    [13/04/2016 09:08:52] |ight bu|bz (ideas): (nerd)
    [13/04/2016 09:09:54] |ight bu|bz (ideas): still there?
    [13/04/2016 09:10:34] M G: What will happen if I decide to send 1000 000 visitors instead of 100,000?
    [13/04/2016 09:10:49] |ight bu|bz (ideas): well price will go up of course
    [13/04/2016 09:11:01] |ight bu|bz (ideas): for 1M how much are you willing to pay?
    [13/04/2016 09:12:44] |ight bu|bz (ideas): lets start with the 100k
    [13/04/2016 09:13:49] M G: Frankly for me this process is problematic, I would rather pay once and use the program in my own way instead of being subjected to such working limits of constraints.
    [13/04/2016 09:14:07] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay
    [13/04/2016 09:14:15] |ight bu|bz (ideas): so what do you want to do now?
    [13/04/2016 09:15:04 | Modifié (09:15:08)] M G: I want your price
    [13/04/2016 09:15:19] |ight bu|bz (ideas): for a program?
    [13/04/2016 09:15:23] M G: yes
    [13/04/2016 09:15:40] |ight bu|bz (ideas): $400
    [13/04/2016 09:16:35] |ight bu|bz (ideas): if interested let me know
    [13/04/2016 09:19:51] |ight bu|bz (ideas): are you still here?
    [13/04/2016 09:21:36] M G: Yes i'm here. I'm thinking about the price, this is huge. Some softs on the market can do this job such as: Clickjacker, ******** Clickjack, etc...for a lesser price.
    [13/04/2016 09:21:53] |ight bu|bz (ideas): well how much are you willing to spend?
    [13/04/2016 09:22:16] M G: Less than $100
    [13/04/2016 09:22:32] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hmm, $100 deal
    [13/04/2016 09:46:53] |ight bu|bz (ideas): are you interested or not?
    [13/04/2016 09:47:48] M G: Yes i need to think the best solution for me.
    [13/04/2016 09:48:35] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay
    [13/04/2016 09:48:42] |ight bu|bz (ideas): tell me when you are ready
    [13/04/2016 09:48:46] |ight bu|bz (ideas): able to send it to you anytime
    [13/04/2016 09:48:56] M G: ok
    [13/04/2016 13:43:32] M G: Ok
    [13/04/2016 13:43:38 | Modifié (13:43:47)] M G: Can you start to work now on it
    [13/04/2016 15:32:44] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i can but what about payment?
    [13/04/2016 15:33:35] M G: I will pay you by Paypal after seeing it worked
    [13/04/2016 15:34:45] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i can start only with 50% initial payment
    [13/04/2016 15:36:52] M G: Have you ever coded a similar script in the past?
    [13/04/2016 15:45:28] |ight bu|bz (ideas): Yes i didm but do not have the source code as per client agreement that i will not keep source code
    [13/04/2016 15:45:50] *** Appel en absence de |ight bu|bz (ideas). ***
    [13/04/2016 15:46:08] *** Appel en absence de |ight bu|bz (ideas). ***
    [13/04/2016 15:47:18] M G: I want to see the program works. If you can do that i will buy it.
    [13/04/2016 15:48:10] M G: I want to manage the CTR by %. Like this soft: megajacker.com
    [13/04/2016 15:48:37 | Modifié (15:48:42)] M G: My traffic is only Mobile more precisely ios
    [13/04/2016 15:50:50] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i see, will start only with 50% upfront
    [13/04/2016 15:53:22] M G: How do you think to start?
    [13/04/2016 15:53:33 | Modifié (15:53:36)] M G: Exit popup? or JS?
    [13/04/2016 15:58:55 | Supprimé (16:00:01)] M G: Ce message a été supprimé
    [13/04/2016 16:02:43] M G: I want to send traffic to that website: http://......
    [13/04/2016 16:04:22] M G: I want to know how you think to convert this traffic into clicks (leaving me the opportunity to manage the CTR rate).
    [13/04/2016 17:46:24] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay that is not a problem
    [13/04/2016 17:46:24] |ight bu|bz (ideas): well its much better to do action that talking
    [13/04/2016 18:56:59] M G: OK
    [13/04/2016 18:57:09] M G: Give me your Paypal email
    [13/04/2016 18:57:15] M G: i send you $50
    [13/04/2016 18:58:27] |ight bu|bz (ideas): [email protected] - only personal payment option
    [13/04/2016 19:02:57] M G: done
    [13/04/2016 19:03:15 | Supprimé (19:03:21)] M G: ..................
    [13/04/2016 19:03:24] M G: Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 3TV43300VM7642443)

    Sent to:
    Jason Ivler (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Unverified)
    [email protected]
    Amount sent:
    -$50.00 USD
    Fee amount:
    $0.00 USD
    Net amount:
    -$50.00 USD
    [13/04/2016 19:05:10] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ok let me check, give me a moment
    [13/04/2016 19:05:17] M G: OK
    [13/04/2016 19:06:34] |ight bu|bz (ideas): Chen Leman?
    [13/04/2016 19:06:55] M G: Yes
    [13/04/2016 19:07:16] |ight bu|bz (ideas): your payment is on pending! dont you have the personal payment option?
    [13/04/2016 19:07:54] M G: Yes
    [13/04/2016 19:10:51] M G: Date:
    Apr 14, 2016
    02:02:45 GMT+08:00
    [13/04/2016 19:11:20] M G: I think tomorrow you will get the payment
    [13/04/2016 19:15:45] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay lets wait then..
    [13/04/2016 19:15:54] M G: ok
    [13/04/2016 19:16:02] |ight bu|bz (ideas): thanks
    [13/04/2016 19:16:34] |ight bu|bz (ideas): you have webmoney?
    [13/04/2016 19:16:42] |ight bu|bz (ideas): PM or skrill?
    [13/04/2016 19:18:03] M G: Why?
    [13/04/2016 19:18:36] |ight bu|bz (ideas): if you have those payment processor much better
    [13/04/2016 19:18:37] |ight bu|bz (ideas): or btc
    [13/04/2016 19:19:42] M G: yes,but I have sent 50$,i can send btc for rest
    [13/04/2016 19:31:55] |ight bu|bz (ideas): but it is on pending, i can refund the payment
    [13/04/2016 19:33:26] M G: It's too late
    2:32am I have to sleep
    [13/04/2016 19:33:35] M G: Wait until tomorrow
    [13/04/2016 19:39:49] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay no problem..
    [13/04/2016 19:40:00] |ight bu|bz (ideas): get some rest for now
    [13/04/2016 19:40:19] M G: ok
    [13/04/2016 19:41:21] |ight bu|bz (ideas): goodnight for now buddy
    [13/04/2016 19:41:26] M G: ok
    [13/04/2016 19:41:27] |ight bu|bz (ideas): talk to you tomorrow then
    [14/04/2016 04:06:33] |ight bu|bz (ideas): Hi goodmorning.
    [14/04/2016 07:00:52] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hello?
    [14/04/2016 07:09:09] |ight bu|bz (ideas): how long do you sleep? lol
    [14/04/2016 09:25:49] M G: Hello
    [14/04/2016 09:30:17] M G: Do you received the payment?
    [14/04/2016 09:47:57] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hi mate, awake and around now?
    [14/04/2016 09:48:15] |ight bu|bz (ideas): Hi there, the payment is still pending
    [14/04/2016 09:48:23] |ight bu|bz (ideas): would you like me to refund?
    [14/04/2016 09:49:40] |ight bu|bz (ideas): (nerd)
    [14/04/2016 09:53:28] M G: Can you wait 1 day?
    [14/04/2016 09:55:01] |ight bu|bz (ideas): yes
    [14/04/2016 09:55:40] M G: Ok thanks. I don't know happend because i paid you with my Paypal balance.
    [14/04/2016 09:55:41] |ight bu|bz (ideas): but it says 21 days on my account
    [14/04/2016 09:56:03] M G: Whaouh..
    [14/04/2016 09:56:22] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i can refund and receive via btc so we can get this started
    [14/04/2016 09:57:09] M G: OK let me try
    [14/04/2016 09:57:11] M G: refund
    [14/04/2016 09:57:48] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 1 sec
    [14/04/2016 09:59:40] |ight bu|bz (ideas): m refunded
    [14/04/2016 10:01:37] |ight bu|bz (ideas): kindly check mate
    [14/04/2016 10:01:56] M G: OK received. Send me btc address and amount of btc
    [14/04/2016 10:02:05] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 1 sec
    [14/04/2016 10:02:34] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 18ib3NgFE6Ee2R3ZNnpwViQJfSmbqtAE6R
    [14/04/2016 10:03:25] M G: And the amount of BTC?
    [14/04/2016 10:03:49] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 0.1185 btc
    [14/04/2016 10:04:42] |ight bu|bz (ideas): 0.1185 BTC = $50
    [14/04/2016 10:04:50] M G: OK
    [14/04/2016 10:04:55] M G: Wait a minute please
    [14/04/2016 10:05:01] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ok take your time
    [14/04/2016 10:19:39] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ?
    [14/04/2016 10:21:00] M G: Wait some minutes please
    [14/04/2016 10:21:21] |ight bu|bz (ideas): done?
    [14/04/2016 10:21:34] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ok, brb
    [14/04/2016 10:22:21] M G: http://block.okcoin.cn/btc/tx/0af2b10272cf75502a6394d94087ddc9bd9c9bccfdb1cc52d9bcda7f7641f0cf
    [14/04/2016 10:22:26] |ight bu|bz (ideas): kindly notify me when you have sent payment
    [14/04/2016 10:22:37] M G: http://block.okcoin.cn/btc/tx/0af2b10272cf75502a6394d94087ddc9bd9c9bccfdb1cc52d9bcda7f7641f0cf
    [14/04/2016 10:27:51] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay why not make full payment so i can send the software directly, what is your email for receiving?
    [14/04/2016 10:28:58] M G: Can i see it working?
    [14/04/2016 10:29:44] |ight bu|bz (ideas): yes and i can send the bot and set it up on your computer via teamviewer
    [14/04/2016 10:29:46 | Modifié (10:30:15)] M G: I give you my teamviewer
    [14/04/2016 10:30:18] |ight bu|bz (ideas): okay. can you make full payment before i send the bot and set it up on your end
    [14/04/2016 10:30:39] |ight bu|bz (ideas): so everything will go smoothly
    [14/04/2016 10:35:29] M G: Before to send you the full payment i want to check with you via teamviewer. If everything is ok i will send you the rest of money.
    [14/04/2016 10:37:19] |ight bu|bz (ideas): no need to worry about the bot, its working fine
    [14/04/2016 10:43:00] M G: Put yourself in my place I just sent you $50, I have not yet seen anything. I ask you a little effort, show me your program working via teamviewer.
    [14/04/2016 10:52:50] |ight bu|bz (ideas): i have a reputation on the forum and will not do anything stupid to ruin it mate
    [14/04/2016 11:05:41] M G: Frankly, we can not call a reputation here, you have an account on BHW only since February 2016, so far you have only 63 comments. By nature I am a distrustful. I'm already fleecing me and I do not want that again. I think I made a big effort so far and I ask you to act the same way, prove me that this program works, I want to see it working before to send you the rest of the money.
    [14/04/2016 11:10:37] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hmmm give me a moment.
    [14/04/2016 11:53:06] |ight bu|bz (ideas): back now?
    [14/04/2016 11:53:23] M G: I'm here.
    [14/04/2016 11:54:12] M G: What do you mean?
    [14/04/2016 11:54:26] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ok wait
    [14/04/2016 11:55:37] |ight bu|bz (ideas): hold on
    [14/04/2016 11:56:45] M G: ok
    [14/04/2016 16:55:56 | Modifié (16:56:04)] M G: So?
    [14/04/2016 18:54:20] M G: Are you there?
    [14/04/2016 19:06:22] |ight bu|bz (ideas): me and my partner decide full payment before sending the bot
    [14/04/2016 19:23:56] |ight bu|bz (ideas): ready to make full?
    [15/04/2016 00:32:00] M G: I made a lot of effort, you none
    [15/04/2016 00:32:20] M G: I want my money back.
    [15/04/2016 09:34:32] M G: So?
    [15/04/2016 09:35:07] |ight bu|bz (ideas): make full payment will send the bot and guide how to use and install
    [15/04/2016 09:35:14] M G: No
    [15/04/2016 09:35:19] M G: I want my money back
    [15/04/2016 09:54:19] M G: So?
    [15/04/2016 09:55:23] M G: Should I write a review on BHW about you?
    [15/04/2016 10:04:10] |ight bu|bz (ideas): well wait till saturday, i am on a meeting
    [15/04/2016 10:04:25] M G: OK
    [17/04/2016 18:16:48] M G: So?
    [17/04/2016 18:16:57] M G: I want my money back
    [17/04/2016 18:17:15] M G: Today is Sunday
    [17/04/2016 18:20:37] M G: Normally you have to pay me yesterday!!
    [18/04/2016 09:07:29] M G: Mate
    [18/04/2016 09:07:39] M G: I want my money back
    [18/04/2016 09:07:45] M G: I'm enough to wait
    [18/04/2016 10:04:01] M G: Today is the last day, if i don't get my refund, i will write a hard review on BHW forum.
    [19/04/2016 17:44:05] M G: So you are a cheater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    [19/04/2016 17:45:10] |ight bu|bz (ideas): lol no
    [19/04/2016 17:45:22] M G: Send me the money
    [19/04/2016 17:45:33] M G: Today is tuesday
    [19/04/2016 17:45:57] M G: I'm waiting the refund since saturday
    [19/04/2016 17:55:57] M G: One thing is absolutely certain regarding you, you are not at all serious!
    [19/04/2016 17:56:20] M G: What did you do with my money?
    [19/04/2016 17:59:53] M G: I want my money back!!!!
    [19/04/2016 21:06:47] M G: Hey mate!
    [19/04/2016 21:07:01] M G: I want my money back!!
  4. miggon

    miggon Newbie

    Apr 5, 2011
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    Futhermore, he blocked me on Skype. So I will never see my money.
  5. OldSalt

    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Lightbulbs was just online and viewed this thread - and rather than respond, he went to the Freelancer section.

    He is temp banned with instructions that he is to respond here when it expires, not continue to peruse the freelancer section.

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  6. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    it has been said many times and i take no pleasure in saying this,
    but why do people insist on giving money to a random user who
    joined the forum 2 months ago. never ever give your money to
    a new member promising the earth, most shit lists here are from
    people scammed by new users who joined last month.

    as much as i might feel bad for loss of money - you also have to do
    do diligence and stop giving money to new members , this is why we
    have a market place to buy from approved sellers
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  7. OldSalt

    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

    May 19, 2009
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    IT Sys Admin
    US, East Coast
    Lightbulbs perma-banned

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  8. MadSilence

    MadSilence Newbie

    Jul 19, 2015
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    Here too! Luckily I paid using pay for goods. Did you other guys do that too? Please everyone report him on paypal! luckily you'll all get your cash back!=)
  9. Samsmith2000

    Samsmith2000 Newbie

    Apr 11, 2016
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    Light bulb again cheated me. I paid $50 to him onHe is not responding to me from the time i sent him the payment.

    His Skype ID is : bot-makers
    Paypal : Company Name (paypal) : Light Bot Creation

    [5/14/2016 3:51:29 PM] Sumit Sharma: Hi
    [5/14/2016 4:43:58 PM] Bot Makers: hello there
    [5/14/2016 1110 PM] Sumit Sharma: yes i am here
    [5/14/2016 1142 PM] Sumit Sharma: have you tested the file
    [5/14/2016 1130 PM] Sumit Sharma: can you convert it to silent exe ?
    [5/15/2016 7:25:46 AM] Bot Makers: yes i have tested and able to confirm it
    [5/15/2016 1154 AM] Sumit Sharma: cool
    [5/15/2016 11:46:35 AM] Sumit Sharma: so please tell me your account id i have to transfer the money
    [5/15/2016 12:56:59 PM] Bot Makers: okay paypal correct?
    [5/15/2016 12:57:14 PM] Bot Makers:light.bublzXyahoooo.com
    [5/15/2016 12:57:18 PM] Sumit Sharma: yes please
    [5/15/2016 12:57:21 PM] Bot Makers: kindly send payment as personal payment option
    [5/15/2016 12:57:33 PM] Sumit Sharma: have you tested the converted file
    [5/15/2016 12:57:43 PM] Bot Makers: yes
    [5/15/2016 12:57:52 PM] Bot Makers: do you have the personal payment option on paypal?
    [5/15/2016 12:57:59 PM] Sumit Sharma: its has to work well else you have to refund the amount
    [5/15/2016 12:58:11 PM] Bot Makers: It'll work that is a guarantee
    [5/15/2016 12:58:12 PM] Sumit Sharma: i have to check first
    [5/15/2016 12:58:16 PM] Sumit Sharma: :)
    [5/15/2016 12:58:21 PM] Bot Makers: once payment is made
    [5/15/2016 12:58:34 PM] Bot Makers: i will transfer so you can check
    [5/15/2016 12:58:38 PM] Sumit Sharma: sure i will send the payment first
    [5/15/2016 12:58:47 PM] Bot Makers: okay
    [5/15/2016 12:59:05 PM | Edited 12:59:04 PM] Bot Makers: do you have personal payment option in paypal?
    [5/15/2016 12:59:20 PM] Sumit Sharma: but in case any issue the payment has to be refund or the error has to be resolved
    [5/15/2016 12:59:36 PM] Bot Makers: Yes
    [5/15/2016 1:00:01 PM] Sumit Sharma: what is the format of converted file ?
    [5/15/2016 1:00:49 PM] Bot Makers: at the moment it is on exe format
    [5/15/2016 105 PM] Sumit Sharma: thats what we need
    [5/15/2016 112 PM] Bot Makers: okay
    [5/15/2016 117 PM] Bot Makers: let me know when payment is sent
    [5/15/2016 123 PM] Bot Makers: by the personal payment option only.
    [5/15/2016 1:03:42 PM] Sumit Sharma: have you installed it on your computer ?
    [5/15/2016 1:04:19 PM] Bot Makers: already uninstalled it.
    [5/15/2016 1:04:22 PM] Bot Makers: also i will not keep the source code
    [5/15/2016 1:04:45 PM | Edited 1:04:55 PM] Sumit Sharma: may i know your IP so i can cross check
    [5/15/2016 107 PM] Bot Makers: i use vpn
    [5/15/2016 129 PM | Edited 131 PM] Sumit Sharma: still it must be having some IP
    [5/15/2016 110 PM | Edited 112 PM] Bot Makers: let me know once it is sent, also on what email will i send the exe
    [5/15/2016 149 PM] Bot Makers: ?\
    [5/15/2016 144 PM] Bot Makers: Are you still here?
    [5/15/2016 231 PM] Sumit Sharma: sure
    [5/15/2016 238 PM] Sumit Sharma: i will let you know
    [5/15/2016 215 PM] Sumit Sharma: i am not able to send the payment
    [5/15/2016 200 PM] Sumit Sharma: India personal payment option is not acceptable
    [5/15/2016 3:41:45 PM] Bot Makers: ok send as service/goods
    [5/15/2016 3:46:36 PM] Bot Makers: ?
    [5/15/2016 3:46:41 PM | Edited 3:46:49 PM] Bot Makers: send as services
    [5/15/2016 3:46:47 PM] Sumit Sharma: i tried sending same
    [5/15/2016 3:47:01 PM] Sumit Sharma: but its not going through
    [5/15/2016 3:47:49 PM] Sumit Sharma: i called paypal and they said your setting are not good to receive payments
    [5/15/2016 3:55:51 PM] Bot Makers: who's setting?
    [5/15/2016 3:55:53 PM] Bot Makers: mine?
    [5/15/2016 3:55:58 PM] Sumit Sharma: yes
    [5/15/2016 3:56:23 PM] Bot Makers: try sending there
    [5/15/2016 3:56:32 PM] Bot Makers: what does it say when you send?
    [5/15/2016 3:57:01 PM] Sumit Sharma: i have sent you a picture
    [5/15/2016 3:57:41 PM] Sumit Sharma: please see above
    [5/15/2016 3:57:54 PM] Bot Makers: this one
    [5/15/2016 3:59:26 PM] Sumit Sharma: same issue
    [5/15/2016 4:09:00 PM] Sumit Sharma: have you seen
    [5/15/2016 4:09:54 PM] Sumit Sharma: you need to change your receiving settings thats what paypal is saying
    [5/15/2016 4:14:05 PM] Sumit Sharma: please let me know once you are done i will send the money
    [5/15/2016 4:15:57 PM] Bot Makers: ok one sec
    [5/15/2016 4:16:48 PM] Bot Makers: what was the issue?
    [5/15/2016 4:19:27 PM] Sumit Sharma: PayPal said that the recipient has to made correction in his receiving settings
    [5/15/2016 4:19:46 PM] Bot Makers: you called them?
    [5/15/2016 4:19:59 PM | Edited 4:20:10 PM] Sumit Sharma: yes
    [5/15/2016 4:20:14 PM] Bot Makers: ok hold on
    [5/15/2016 4:24:56 PM] Bot Makers: let me figure it out
    [5/15/2016 4:24:59 PM] Bot Makers: give me a moment
    [5/15/2016 4:25:06 PM] Sumit Sharma: sure
    [5/15/2016 4:25:13 PM] Sumit Sharma: i am around
    [5/15/2016 6:08:23 PM] Bot Makers: how about i send you an invoice?
    [5/15/2016 6:41:34 PM] Bot Makers: hi, i have updated the receiving option
    [5/15/2016 8:17:15 PM] Bot Makers: send again
    [5/15/2016 11:58:35 PM] Sumit Sharma: ok
    [5/15/2016 11:58:38 PM] Sumit Sharma: let me try
    [5/16/2016 12:00:15 AM] Sumit Sharma: so which ID should i send the payment
    [5/16/2016 12:00:39 AM] Bot Makers:
    [5/16/2016 12:00:59 AM] Sumit Sharma: ok
    [5/16/2016 12:03:51 AM] Sumit Sharma: its gone
    [5/16/2016 12:04:00 AM] Bot Makers: ?
    [5/16/2016 12:04:01 AM] Sumit Sharma: you can check your account
    [5/16/2016 12:04:08 AM] Bot Makers: what do you mean its gone?
    [5/16/2016 12:04:27 AM] Bot Makers: 1 sec
    [5/16/2016 12:04:28 AM] Sumit Sharma: i means payment has gone from my side through
    [5/16/2016 12:04:40 AM] Bot Makers: im confused
    [5/16/2016 12:04:49 AM] Sumit Sharma: :)
    [5/16/2016 12:05:32 AM] Bot Makers: Available
    $0.00 USD*

    $47.50 USD
    [5/16/2016 12:05:37 AM] Bot Makers: payment is held
    [5/16/2016 12:05:56 AM] Bot Makers: received 47.50
    [5/16/2016 12:06:17 AM] Sumit Sharma: from my side i have sent 50 USD
    [5/16/2016 12:06:49 AM] Bot Makers: paypal cut the fees
    [5/16/2016 12:06:52 AM] Bot Makers: also it is held
    [5/16/2016 12:06:58 AM] Sumit Sharma: my be some charges from your side
    [5/16/2016 12:07:31 AM] Sumit Sharma: my be paypal will take some time
    [5/16/2016 12:07:42 AM] Bot Makers: i dont know hold on
    [5/16/2016 12:09:30 AM] Sumit Sharma: to me it shows payment has been completed successfully
    [5/16/2016 12:10:27 AM] Bot Makers: one sec ill show you
    [5/16/2016 12:11:04 AM] Sumit Sharma: i understand
    [5/16/2016 12:12:09 AM] Sumit Sharma: hmm
    [5/16/2016 12:13:04 AM] Sumit Sharma: I think Paypal have some transition charges
    [5/16/2016 12:13:46 AM] Bot Makers: i have experienced this kind of payment held before from Indian clients and Pakistan
    [5/16/2016 12:14:18 AM] Sumit Sharma: its completed now
    [5/16/2016 12:14:23 AM] Sumit Sharma: you have it
    [5/16/2016 12:14:47 AM] Bot Makers: check the full image
    [5/16/2016 12:15:51 AM] Bot Makers: still none, check the full images, scroll down
    [5/16/2016 12:15:53 AM] Bot Makers: it says pending
    [5/16/2016 12:15:59 AM] Bot Makers: are you able to file a dispute
    [5/16/2016 12:16:10 AM] Bot Makers: ?
    [5/16/2016 12:16:40 AM] Sumit Sharma: let me check
    [5/16/2016 12:16:49 AM] Bot Makers: ok
    [5/16/2016 12:19:58 AM] Sumit Sharma: yes i can
    [5/16/2016 12:20:13 AM] Bot Makers: kindly file a dispute for item not receive
    [5/16/2016 12:20:20 AM] Bot Makers: tell me once it is filed
    [5/16/2016 12:20:36 AM] Sumit Sharma: brother but i dont think its a problem
    [5/16/2016 12:20:58 AM] Sumit Sharma: you will receive as they have taken from my account
    [5/16/2016 12:21:01 AM] Bot Makers: well the payment is held, this is what my indian client does to remove it
    [5/16/2016 12:21:23 AM] Sumit Sharma: paypal can not keep it with them :)
    [5/16/2016 12:21:49 AM] Bot Makers: are you willing to wait 21 days?
    [5/16/2016 12:22:03 AM] Sumit Sharma: no
    [5/16/2016 12:22:17 AM] Bot Makers: Funds availability
    Payments you receive can be instantly available in your PayPal account, once you're an established seller with PayPal. To qualify as an established seller, all you have to do is meet these 3 basic requirements
    [5/16/2016 12:22:47 AM] Sumit Sharma: let me file a dispute but that can also take some time
    [5/16/2016 12:22:55 AM] Bot Makers: just file one
    [5/16/2016 12:23:00 AM] Bot Makers: tell me once it is done
    [5/16/2016 12:24:46 AM] Sumit Sharma: ok done
    [5/16/2016 12:25:57 AM] Bot Makers: alright. its now held on dispute
    [5/16/2016 12:26:08 AM] Bot Makers: cancel the dispute for the funds to be release
    [5/16/2016 12:26:17 AM] Sumit Sharma: ok
    [5/16/2016 12:28:56 AM | Edited 12:29:01 AM] Sumit Sharma: but my friend if i do so i cant not claim the money back in case if it will not work
    [5/16/2016 12:29:46 AM] Sumit Sharma: now you can see the amount in front of you
    [5/16/2016 12:30:00 AM] Bot Makers: i will do a refund, but you have my word and guarantee that you won't regret it..
    [5/16/2016 12:30:07 AM] Bot Makers: payment is held now by paypal
    [5/16/2016 12:31:09 AM] Sumit Sharma: yes but i will also close the case once i have the file tested
    [5/16/2016 12:31:17 AM] Sumit Sharma: trust me
    [5/16/2016 12:32:58 AM] Bot Makers: as long as payment is held
    [5/16/2016 12:33:03 AM] Bot Makers: nothing i can send
    [5/16/2016 12:35:49 AM] Sumit Sharma: you want me trust but you cant :)
    [5/16/2016 1206 AM] Bot Makers: ?
    [5/16/2016 1211 AM] Bot Makers: okay it is up to you
    [5/16/2016 1226 AM] Sumit Sharma: you can see that i have transfer the money
    [5/16/2016 1250 AM] Bot Makers: i can see that but its held
    [5/16/2016 12:37:17 AM] Sumit Sharma: ok let me close the case
    [5/16/2016 12:37:23 AM] Bot Makers: OK
    [5/16/2016 12:38:22 AM] Sumit Sharma: please check now
    [5/16/2016 12:38:35 AM] Bot Makers: give me a moment
    [5/16/2016 1:03:08 AM] Sumit Sharma: have you received ?
    [5/16/2016 1:03:18 AM] Bot Makers: not yet, still waiting to update
    [5/16/2016 1:03:23 AM] Sumit Sharma: hmm
    [5/16/2016 1:03:54 AM] Sumit Sharma: ok let me know one you are ready to send the file
    [5/16/2016 1:04:18 AM] Bot Makers: wil ldo
    [5/16/2016 1:04:33 AM] Sumit Sharma: or you can send the file now
    [5/16/2016 1:04:44 AM] Sumit Sharma: as i cant do anything now
    [5/16/2016 8:20:30 AM] Sumit Sharma: Hello
    [5/16/2016 8:22:10 AM] Sumit Sharma: have you received the money
    [5/16/2016 12:07:04 PM] Sumit Sharma: By when will send me the file
    [12:10:38 AM] Sumit Sharma: Hello
    [12:11:19 AM] *** Call to Bot Makers, no answer.
    Send video message ***
    [12:16:28 AM] Sumit Sharma: what is the issue man why you are not responding
  10. NelisW

    NelisW Newbie

    Jul 4, 2016
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    Thanks for the warning! Will stay away from this guy..