Scammed by KnackForMoney for $100

And guys you know what, if you actually believe hydra then fine. I can hand over the skype group to BTB or someome else, if that makes you happy. I never did anything wrong and always delivered what was promised at least for hydra. As for hasa, I did the right thing of redirecting him to the coder without me being involved to make things make less complicated. However, the bot. Cpa support. Method and PDF were provided EVERYTIME -as clearly discussed. Hydra just comming out of nowhere now claiming stuff just to grt his bucks back...

Sorry but honestly this is the reason why I asked if you have some sort of disorder on your part Johnathan aka Pouya aka Muhammid and whoever else you go by. Since the creation of this thread I've already considered my payment to you as a lost and something that I would not be getting back from you. So your statement of me trying everything in the book to get my money back from you is void. Also lets talk about the statement that I made about you removing people along with their messages from the group after their misfortune with you. This comes from not just my own personal experience in what took place with me but also with another member who is in fact still in your group that was sharing with me that what took place on my part with being removed, that another person who was also trying to reach out to you in the group had the same thing happen to them. I can also provide a screen shot privately to a moderator here just to keep the person who shared this information with me on a private basis.

Now lets get back to more about why I asked if you have some sort of disorder on your part. It seems that you have no clue or idea as to why I asked you for my money back so I'm going to explain it as crystal clear as I can for you even thought its clearly mentioned right here in this thread why I requested a refund. You sold me a bot that did not work, provided support for issues in days and sometimes a weeks period, and when the bot finally worked it did not work the way that it should have. Such as both module 1 and module 2 being able to run and be in use at the same time. Then there comes the days when the bot did not work at all and I've tried reaching out to you once again regarding new issues that arose with the bot not working properly only to have a .pdf file thrown my way for me to trouble shoot the issues on my own part which was in fact done and still there were many issues with the bot not working the way it should of from the start (your tutorial .pdf files did not fix or solve a thing). Now lets get to exactly what I paid you for yet once again. I paid you a total of $50 for the bot, and $50 for a method that was not shared openly within your CPA group. This I did NOT get only till the day leading up to me finally asking you for my money back is when you offered such a method to me when in fact it was something that I had paid you for.

Now lets talk about the Skype IM conversation that we had that I've posted in my original first post in this thread. That is our ENTIRE Skype conversation from the day we first talked leading all the way up to the time of me asking for my money back as well as you removing me from the group, which here is a screen shot to that taking place, both date and time and who did it. http://imgur.com/a/OsuMv -&- http://imgur.com/a/ecsW3 And now with regards to my payment to you. There was NO mention at all what so ever during the time of me making my payment to you that I was in fact paying someone other than you and this someone other than yourself was a coder of the bot. Anyone who truly wants to read every detail of what took place can refer to my first post which they will also see that you yourself claim to have worked with someone in coding the bot. There was no mention that it was Pouya P or any other party that coded the bot at and before the time of me making my payment to you. I also find it quite interesting in the fact that per the post that BTB has made that you've gone to the extent to send him a personal message to bring to his attention that Pouya P is not you, and then come back in this thread and try to save face or cover your tracks in stating the reason why you told BTB that Pouya P was not you was because the following statement made here below.


****Basstrackerboats, P. Is the coder, I am just supporting and helping for free basically just here and then when people need. Thats why P. Gave out the same PP as me in the beginnimg and thats why I am saying all the time that the coder got the money eventually the money. I gave hydra the direct PP of the coder and worked as an intermediary at time (or affiliate if you will). This is why I also said that I need to talk to the coder after hydranize came out complaining afteer over a month.****


So according to the above statement that is the reason you out of the blue decided to send BTB a message privately to tell him that you are not Pouya P. ? Clearly someone must be hiding something or has details they are trying to hide and that's why they needed to result to a private message rather than posting every bit of detail possible right in the thread like any normal honest person would do. Also with this being said anyone who wishes to take the time to read that lengthy Skype conversation between me and Johnathan / Pouya P. that wishes to see a screen shot of any part or portion, please do feel free to ask me as I will gladly take any and all screen shots requested of any part in that Skype conversation.

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Sorry to hear OP but here is some advice for getting your money back.

First you should file a dispute with paypal for not as advertised. There is a good change he will win the case. PayPal will say "seller has provided shipping/tracking information".

All you have to do is appeal with the words "This is a virtual item. It is in no way possible to provide a tracking number. Please have the seller prove that he shipped a virtual item to my door".

I've won 100% of appeals with this exact method.

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Thanks for the tip, sadly its also not an option in this case given the payment was sent to him as Friends & Family so he would not incur any fees on his part. I normally don't have a problem doing this when dealing with people on other forums i frequent that have a decent or above average reputation but sadly here on BHW there seem to be a good bit of folks out to take any sort of petty dollars they can from whoever they can take it from. This was sadly the case here. I've learned my lesson and have also just recently made a payment to another member on here for a freelance ad I posted. And this go around I made sure NEVER to make such a mistake again with paying as Friends and Family. I took it upon myself to cover the fees and at least have some sort of security on my part with PayPal.

@KnackForMoney I don't go around checking the Skype statuses of my contacts. I would have expected him to make a conserved effort to add me back and help me. Throughout this whole thing you have said things like:

KnackForMoney said:

There are also logs showing that you have been running things more than 3 days I can even see it from my end here.

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How can you see his actions if you're simply the "Middleman" as you stated and have no involvement in the bot?

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@KnackForMoney I don't go around checking the Skype statuses of my contacts. I would have expected him to make a conserved effort to add me back and help me. Throughout this whole thing you have said things like:


How can you see his actions if you're simply the "Middleman" as you stated and have no involvement in the bot?

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We both know how he'll respond to this one and it will be because he shares everything with Pouya or worked on it with Pouya or helps Pouya. As soon as I seen the trait of Pouya always ghosting and also making his reply to my message to him while ghosting on Skype I knew it was him, especially how both Skype's also say Germany too on them. The funny thing is it was this one fellow I spoke to about me having a Badoo bot that I recently bought and how its completely useless and unusable that had brought the Pouya person out. He mentioned something along the lines of a person by the name of Pouya having shown him a youtube video clip or something of the bot in use. When he linked me the video and I watched it I was blown away given that that bot in the video was the same EXACT bot that I was sold, only it was another guy who sold it to me, not a Pouya. That's when I asked this guy if I could get this Pouya's person Skype so I could send him a message to question some details about the bot. This is how the entire Pouya thing came about and when I had seen that the Skype ID is always invisible or offline yet he replied to a message I sent him about a week after sending him the message and also looking at how it said Germany at the top I said this has got to be the same guy as MrCool aka Johnathan and whoever else he poses as.

@Hydranize - please PM me the Skype usernames of Knackformoney and Pouya.

Ok, having gone over this a handful of times and looking at it from a variety of angles I think the fair option is as follows:

@KnackForMoney - you have to refund @Hydranize in full based on this:

@KnackForMoney - is this part of the Skype chat accurate:

http://imgur.com/a/Ba3rs

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Yes I have said that

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That is pretty cut and dry.

As to @hasa1015's payment to the same PP, I can't hold you to that as people do share PP accounts and allow others to use their account to receive funds and I am unable to 100% determine that you are indeed Pouya. For someone that states he was outsourcing the bot creation I found this post of yours a little unusual http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/get-10-badoo-accounts-for-free.860222/page-2#post-9097622 as you state you have developed a bot.

Personally, I think you have a moral obligation to see that he gets his money back though.

@KnackForMoney, Please post in this thread when you intend to, and how you intend to, pay @Hydranize his 100.00.

@KnackForMoney - you are wearing me out. You'll PM me but not address how you are going to pay back @Hydranize in this thread yet you come on and off the site (yeah, we can see your activity).

You NEED to address this today.

I hate to do this as I was hoping that @KnackForMoney for money would man up and take care of his obligations but, after a fair amount of agita dealing with him, he is perma-banned.

I've also banned a few accounts that were tied to him as I believe that his game was multi-dimensional.

@Hydranize, I'm sorry for your loss here and at @hasa1015, I think you got hosed by the same person but that is conjecture and not fact based.

Another one bites the dust Nice work!

Thanks a ton for getting rid of him and whatever other id's he was going by on here. This will surely save a lot more people from being potential victims of his. In time I'll recover from my losses but most importantly is he's now been cut from preying upon more would be folks on this board.

It's a shame I fell for this as well (before this thread was posted), at least he got his justice and the loss wasn't major.