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Scammed by iprogram

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by smgr04, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. smgr04

    smgr04 Newbie

    Aug 17, 2014
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    User profile name : Iprogram

    Paid him 180$, its been 4 days and no response over Skype.
    He is been active on BHW, but does not reply or update me on anything.
    I just want to make sure no one else get scammed by him.

    He was very convincing, i believed him but all he did was lie out of his skin and i got cheated.

    Feel so stupid that i believed that guy.

    Plz make sure no one else gets cheated by him.
  2. OldSalt

    OldSalt Ex-Mod taking a sabbatical

    May 19, 2009
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    Iprogram has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    @smgr, I am going to need more info - skype logs, PMs and payment proof (with personal info removed from both).

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    Reminder to everyone else:
    Shit list rule #4:
    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
  3. smgr04

    smgr04 Newbie

    Aug 17, 2014
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    I don't have enough post count to send a PM or add links in my Post.

    Can u add me on Skype?
    Skype : extremeitsmgr04

    Thanks OS.

    *This is the log that was sent to me - Adding it to his post. OS*
    [20/08/2014 1:09:29 pm] Fer: Hello sir[20/08/2014 1:09:32 pm] Fer: what can i do for you
    [20/08/2014 1:10:13 pm] A: u had left me a PM about having interest in doing my project?
    [20/08/2014 1:11:02 pm] Fer: Yes would you mind reminding me which project
    [20/08/2014 1:11:07 pm] Fer: programming or web developing
    [20/08/2014 1:12:19 pm] A: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/hire-freelancer/697721-hire-private-bit-torrent-website-coder.html
    [20/08/2014 1:14:20 pm] Fer: second please im almost finished eating
    [20/08/2014 1:14:34 pm] A: no worries
    [20/08/2014 1:24:43 pm] Fer: I'm back.
    [20/08/2014 1:24:53 pm] Fer: Take a look at my portfolio, 
    [20/08/2014 1:32:18 pm] A: do u know how to set up a private tracker?
    [20/08/2014 1:34:38 pm] Fer: i do.
    [20/08/2014 1:35:58 pm] A: are u currently active on any?
    [20/08/2014 1:36:28 pm] Fer: on torrent sites no, i did code 2 of them.
    [20/08/2014 1:36:37 pm] Fer: but im not into torrent sites at all, i know the ins and outs
    [20/08/2014 1:37:31 pm] A: u have a team or by urself?
    [20/08/2014 1:37:59 pm] Fer: i have a buddy who did help me
    [20/08/2014 1:39:26 pm] A: *Removed*
    [20/08/2014 1:39:35 pm] A: thats the platform i want.
    [20/08/2014 1:40:25 pm] Fer: thats the source code to code bit torrent sites
    [20/08/2014 1:40:46 pm] A: yeah
    [20/08/2014 1:40:54 pm] Fer: gotcha
    [20/08/2014 1:41:34 pm] A: if u think its possible, break down ur costs per action and let me know.
    [20/08/2014 1:42:13 pm] A: is there any torrent sites u just a member in or visit a few times?
    [20/08/2014 1:42:23 pm] Fer: Of course it's possible, you need to code a torrent site using the TBDEV,NET source code as the platform.
    [20/08/2014 1:42:35 pm] A: yeah
    [20/08/2014 1:42:44 pm] Fer: honestly sometimes i download from thepiratebay
    [20/08/2014 1:42:58 pm] A: any private ones?
    [20/08/2014 1:43:02 pm] Fer: okay, it is possible i know the platform very well.
    [20/08/2014 1:43:10 pm] Fer: No , no private ones.
    [20/08/2014 1:43:23 pm] A: where are u from?
    [20/08/2014 1:43:34 pm] Fer: US, NJ
    [20/08/2014 1:44:07 pm] A: i will give u a link to an indian torrent site, just to get a view on how i have it in my head
    [20/08/2014 1:44:22 pm] A:
    [20/08/2014 1:44:59 pm] A: i need the tracker to be able to do all that.. when u download.
    [20/08/2014 1:45:23 pm] Fer: have any account there?
    [20/08/2014 1:45:24 pm] Fer: i can use.
    [20/08/2014 1:45:41 pm] A: am not registered in that one
    [20/08/2014 1:47:42 pm] A: one sec
    [20/08/2014 1:48:20 pm] Fer: sure
    [20/08/2014 1:48:23 pm] A: 
    [20/08/2014 1:48:27 pm] A: 
    [20/08/2014 1:51:05 pm] Fer: its actually a pretty nice torrent site.
    [20/08/2014 1:51:25 pm] Fer: tracker is what you want same as this one
    [20/08/2014 1:51:58 pm] A: when u download, it actually updates and keeps track of ur figures etc etc
    [20/08/2014 1:52:14 pm] A: private tracker and public are different
    [20/08/2014 1:52:20 pm] Fer: yes i know that.
    [20/08/2014 1:52:35 pm] A: just an idea of how a tracker works.
    [20/08/2014 1:52:45 pm] Fer: alright
    [20/08/2014 1:53:32 pm] A: when u r doing the job i know there will be issues.. time is not a matter, i need to know if u can find solutions to that one..
    [20/08/2014 1:54:30 pm] Fer: that's what im here for, and yes i expect to have a few issues here and there which can be fixed, of course can take extra time, got it
    [20/08/2014 1:55:26 pm] A: u know web design?
    [20/08/2014 1:55:56 pm] Fer: correct.
    [20/08/2014 1:56:29 pm] Fer: photoshop is one of the tools i use.
    [20/08/2014 1:56:59 pm] A: so all this link u have given me, is there any thing u r currently active in?
    [20/08/2014 1:57:23 pm] Fer: Not really, currently i am coding an Instagram Bot
    [31/08/2014 9:14:25 am] A: [20/08/2014 1:57:50 pm] A: hmm.
    [20/08/2014 2:00:02 pm] Fer: i have no problem showing you what im coding.
    [20/08/2014 2:00:55 pm] A: i am never going to understand that.. i have zero idea on Facebook, twitter, instagram etc etc..
    [20/08/2014 2:00:58 pm] A: break down ur costs per task from the start. To hold a site of about 2000K users, how much will it cost me to keep it live.. let me know we can take it from there..
    [20/08/2014 2:01:54 pm] Fer: Im coding the site, the platform , tracker, ect...
    [20/08/2014 2:02:06 pm] Fer: I can give you a single price
    [20/08/2014 2:02:13 pm] Fer: for everything.
    [20/08/2014 2:03:13 pm] A: well. if u come to a dead end. i will be able to pay you for ur so far and take it with some one else.
    [20/08/2014 2:03:47 pm] A: It will be easy for me swell if u break it down and pay u up for every task u complete..
    [20/08/2014 2:04:33 pm] Fer: ok i can get started with platform and integrating the site design
    [20/08/2014 2:06:21 pm] A: platform and tracker will be great to start off. site design all can be the last part.
    [20/08/2014 2:07:20 pm] Fer: correct platform and tracker, 340$
    [20/08/2014 2:09:25 pm] A: i have asked all others to do a demo version on their servers. how would u like to do?
    [20/08/2014 2:10:11 pm] Fer: demos can take same amount of time, no such thing as demo these days.
    i take paypal always and never had any issues with paypal.
    [20/08/2014 2:23:57 pm] A: Am actually not able to view a tracker site u r active on so, i kind of need something to view on before i start confirming payments
    [20/08/2014 2:24:58 pm] Fer: hard to say yes, i dont think any other programmer will agree to that, this is a lot of work and coding.
    [20/08/2014 2:29:52 pm] A: i have a few doing it right now and asked 5 days time to come up with a demo. after i see their work we will agree on the cost for the whole.
    [20/08/2014 2:50:19 pm] Fer: i see. well i dont know sir, let me know when they finish the demo, i dont think they will.
    [20/08/2014 2:50:54 pm] A: hmm alright
    [26/08/2014 4:12:14 am] A: u there?
    [26/08/2014 4:12:30 am] Fer: yes
    [26/08/2014 4:12:40 am] A: busy?
    [26/08/2014 4:12:45 am] Fer: tell me..
    [26/08/2014 4:13:04 am] A: kind of come to a dead end with the others.
    [26/08/2014 4:13:33 am] A: every one who is able to do a great site have no idea on trackers.
    [26/08/2014 4:13:41 am] A: or how it works.
    [26/08/2014 4:13:45 am] Fer: Lol.
    [26/08/2014 4:13:49 am] Fer: No problem i can help you
    [26/08/2014 4:14:00 am] A: u where right.
    [26/08/2014 4:14:46 am] A: its frustrating though, payed 180$ so far for their work.
    [26/08/2014 4:15:43 am] A: are u still interested ?
    [26/08/2014 4:15:59 am] Fer: Yes i am
    [26/08/2014 4:17:12 am] A: Alright, lets go through ur payments and task..
    [26/08/2014 4:18:02 am] A: Other ppl gave me a lot of info which gave me a lot of trust that they are doing something, in ur case thats what am finding a little hard to move forward.
    [26/08/2014 4:18:28 am] Fer: i already gave you information.... what else do you need from me buddy
    [26/08/2014 4:20:21 am] A: well alright.. tell me ur cost.
    [26/08/2014 4:20:40 am] Fer: 340$
    [26/08/2014 4:20:56 am] A: for everything?
    [26/08/2014 4:21:09 am] Fer: On 20/08/2014, at 2:07 pm, Fer wrote:
    > correct platform and tracker, 340$
    [26/08/2014 4:22:21 am] A: so, u will make a blank forum first then the tracker?
    [26/08/2014 4:22:28 am] Fer: Yes
    [26/08/2014 4:23:12 am] A: i will pay u half for the forum first, after completion we will go with the rest?
    [26/08/2014 4:23:39 am] Fer: alright thats fine
    [26/08/2014 4:23:52 am] Fer: make it 180$?
    [26/08/2014 4:24:03 am] Fer: paypal fees covered.
    [26/08/2014 4:24:39 am] A: u have a personal account i can transfer into?
    [26/08/2014 4:25:25 am] Fer: i take paypal sir
    [26/08/2014 4:26:08 am] A: alright.
    [26/08/2014 4:26:33 am] A: give me ur details
    [26/08/2014 4:27:16 am] Fer: *Removed*
    [26/08/2014 4:29:27 am] A: how much will u charge for the whole website up and running?
    [26/08/2014 4:30:34 am] Fer: 100$
    [26/08/2014 4:31:15 am] A: what?
    [26/08/2014 4:31:29 am] Fer: set up the site
    [26/08/2014 4:31:41 am] A: altogether u r saying 100 + 180?
    [26/08/2014 4:32:01 am] Fer: no man 180$ + 180$ after i complete + 100$
    [26/08/2014 4:32:55 am] A: are u sure about this?
    [26/08/2014 4:33:12 am] A: are u sure u have build torrent websites?
    [26/08/2014 4:33:24 am] Fer: Yes Sir, i have.
    [26/08/2014 4:34:37 am] A: how much did they charge u for that torrent flux site?
    [26/08/2014 4:35:01 am] A: funk*
    [26/08/2014 4:35:45 am] Fer: 640$
    [26/08/2014 4:37:01 am] A: I am having trouble believing a lot of stuffs u r saying mate..
    [26/08/2014 4:37:22 am] Fer: You've seen my work buddy.
    [26/08/2014 4:37:33 am] A: am not sure if that is ur work.
    [26/08/2014 4:37:34 am] Fer: You already confirmed they werent able to deliver your demo.
    [26/08/2014 4:37:47 am] Fer: I am able to get your site up and running and yes i have experience with torrent sites.
    [26/08/2014 4:37:50 am] Fer: No big deal.
    [26/08/2014 4:38:23 am] Fer: The only difference is, i charge cheap.
    [26/08/2014 4:38:49 am] Fer: that's why i get work.
    [26/08/2014 4:39:02 am] A: they gave me demos. not the kind i liked. All of them only forced of amazing designs and features thats the last of my list..
    [26/08/2014 4:40:19 am] A: I have paid ppl only because they tried to help me out and din go any where end of the day.
    [26/08/2014 4:40:39 am] A: Other than payments what else u need from me to get started?
    [26/08/2014 4:43:42 am] Fer: That'll be all to get me started, as soon as i get going will give you updates and show you, if i come into errors or problems will have them fixed, like any other site, every single site is doable, every single one.
    [26/08/2014 4:45:35 am] A: Alright I will u 100$ just to get started.. this 100$ is not included in ay part of the website cost. Only for u to get started !!!
    [26/08/2014 4:46:18 am] Fer: we agreed to 180$
    [26/08/2014 4:46:25 am] Fer: right?
    [26/08/2014 4:46:39 am] Fer: is 10 dollars is so much problem to you send 170$
    [26/08/2014 4:46:47 am] Fer: i cover thre paypal fees.
    [26/08/2014 4:48:19 am] A: mate.. 180 for forums + 180 for Tracker + 100 For completion is ur offer.. right?
    [26/08/2014 4:48:33 am] A: 420$ on the whole, yes?
    [26/08/2014 4:48:52 am] Fer: yes
    [26/08/2014 4:49:01 am] Fer: Call started
    [26/08/2014 4:49:01 am] A: Call ended - no answer
    [26/08/2014 4:49:53 am] A: keep the 420$ away for now.. I will give 100$ just to get started..
    [31/08/2014 9:14:29 am] A: [26/08/2014 4:50:18 am] A: thats 420 + 100
    [26/08/2014 4:50:19 am] Fer: i dont understand your point.
    [26/08/2014 4:50:50 am] Fer: Buddy, the entire price is 420$ right, i am asking for 170$ which is not even half and you wanna give 100$
    [26/08/2014 4:51:06 am] Fer: I do not need extra 100 bucks buddy that can come right after you start seeing my work dont you think?
    [26/08/2014 4:51:26 am] Fer: does not make sense the way you put it, we agreed to 170$ buddy
    [26/08/2014 4:53:27 am] A: U r something different, Every one  to whom i have offered extra 100$ have accepted it. Looks like we may be able to work together after all..
    [26/08/2014 4:54:22 am] A: I will get in contact with u with the payment details in about 10 to 12 hrs.. after u confirm payment u can start u r work..
    [26/08/2014 4:54:40 am] A: sound good?
    [26/08/2014 4:54:56 am] Fer: that's fine man, no problem let me know if you want me to get started now thats fine too
    [26/08/2014 4:55:04 am] Fer: whiever you prefer.
    [26/08/2014 4:55:56 am] A: I need to show u a few sites and things.. i will do that after i make my first payment.. give to 12 hrs max.. got some stuffs to do..
    [26/08/2014 4:56:16 am] Fer: no problem , your name is?
    [26/08/2014 4:56:25 am] A: 
    [26/08/2014 4:56:28 am] A: urs?
    [26/08/2014 4:57:25 am] Fer: 
    [26/08/2014 4:57:52 am] A: ur native?
    [26/08/2014 4:58:07 am] Fer: 
    [26/08/2014 4:58:10 am] Fer: 
    [26/08/2014 4:58:22 am] A: am 
    [26/08/2014 4:58:36 am] A: Nice to meet u 
    [26/08/2014 4:59:14 am] Fer: u2 buddy.
    [26/08/2014 4:59:26 am] A: will get back t u soon. bye
    [26/08/2014 5:00:09 am] Fer: thank you take care
    [26/08/2014 9:01:29 pm] A: Unique Transaction ID *Removed*
    [26/08/2014 9:02:13 pm] A: Payment sent.
    [26/08/2014 9:03:45 pm] A: u there?
    [26/08/2014 9:24:46 pm] Fer: Hello buddy let me confirm please
    [26/08/2014 9:24:55 pm] A: sure
    [26/08/2014 9:31:53 pm] Fer: confirmed, i got like 150 something... since your money was. well.
    [26/08/2014 9:32:18 pm] Fer: allright ill have to get started in a couple of hours, since its very early here and i need some rest.
    [26/08/2014 9:32:36 pm] A: I sent u 200
    [26/08/2014 9:33:13 pm] Fer: Yeah weird paypal converted to less.
    [26/08/2014 9:33:56 pm] A: ok, shall i pay the remaining on the next?
    [26/08/2014 9:33:58 pm] Fer: anyway that's fine. you can include that in my second payment.
    [26/08/2014 9:34:35 pm] A: sure sure, Its my bad..
    [26/08/2014 9:34:52 pm] Fer: that's fine buddy
    [26/08/2014 9:34:52 pm] A: Are u off to sleep? i need to show u something.
    [26/08/2014 9:34:59 pm] Fer: please show me first
    [26/08/2014 9:35:32 pm] A: This is the site i would love for u to make..
    [26/08/2014 9:35:35 pm] A: 
    [26/08/2014 9:35:42 pm] A: 
    [26/08/2014 9:35:45 pm] A: 
    [26/08/2014 9:36:06 pm] A: do not download anything, if u do i will get banned..
    [26/08/2014 9:36:37 pm] A: they have very high security setting.
    [26/08/2014 9:37:49 pm] Fer: i doubt that, i can even watch netflix movies and you think downloading  from this site makes a difference hehe
    [26/08/2014 9:37:58 pm] Fer: For free.
    [26/08/2014 9:38:08 pm] Fer: No CC
    [26/08/2014 9:38:39 pm] A: their tracker is very good with IPs aswell..
    [26/08/2014 9:38:42 pm] Fer: i have to say very nice Site, and security yes but not as good as i was thinking.
    [26/08/2014 9:39:30 pm] A: okie.. ITs all up to u on how u wish to protect the site.. there will be a lot of haters when the site is live.
    [26/08/2014 9:40:03 pm] Fer: alright leave that up to me
    [26/08/2014 9:40:29 pm] A: Alright.. thanks.. see u next time. get some rest..
    [26/08/2014 9:40:39 pm] Fer: Thanks buddy
    [26/08/2014 9:40:53 pm] A: i will make a list if things i want and don't want next time u r on..
    [26/08/2014 9:40:57 pm] A: thanks a lot.
    [26/08/2014 9:41:11 pm] Fer: sure thing thanks.
    [27/08/2014 4:46:30 am] A sent a file to this group:
    Site info as per XWT.docx
    [27/08/2014 7:55:57 pm] A: u there?
    [28/08/2014 1:14:51 am] A: u there?
    [28/08/2014 1:22:59 am] Fer: Hey yes its early in the morning tell me
    [28/08/2014 1:23:40 am] A: just want to know when is the best times to catch u.
    [28/08/2014 1:24:04 am] A: we are on extreme ends of the planets thats why
    [28/08/2014 1:24:18 am] Fer: Few hours
    [28/08/2014 1:25:04 am] A: its 1:30AM for me now
    [28/08/2014 1:26:10 am] A: nothing much, just let me know u are starting and if there is anything else u need for me. leave offline messages i will get back..
    [28/08/2014 11:00:56 am] A: any updates?
    [28/08/2014 10:55:49 pm] A: any updates?
    [29/08/2014 11:11:51 pm] A: any updates?
    [29/08/2014 11:51:21 pm] A: its been 4 days, at least bother replying?

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  4. OldSalt

    OldSalt Ex-Mod taking a sabbatical

    May 19, 2009
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    Iprogram signed on the 31st and did not respond to the thread. He has been perma-banned.

  5. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP

    Nov 10, 2012
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    Fun Lovin' Criminal
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    Damn that is a sad story:

    1. You Join on the 17th http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/introductions/697379-greetings-bhw.html
    2. Place Job offer on 18th http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...1-hire-private-bit-torrent-website-coder.html
    3. Start ShitList on 29th http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/700411-scammed-iprogram.html


    OP, ANYBODY can be a scammer and it is especially hard to tell online who is genuine and who is not BUT you gave the job to somebody who had only joined BHW a week or so before you did

    Next time try to do a little due diligence, see how long they have been a member, do they sign in regularly, have they done business with anybody else? Use common sense and be wary or somebody that responds to a thread via PM or Skype but not in the actual thread.

    Anyway, sorry that you lost money and I hope it hasn't put you off doing business on BHW, as the majority of people you will deal with are honest and trust worthy.
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  6. smgr04

    smgr04 Newbie

    Aug 17, 2014
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    Thanks OS.

    Thanks w10sn, funny how things ended.. its my mistake, i made a very wrong judgement and cost me 180$
    Got contacted by some one and saw some else on the forum, things went down the hill.

    Should have started this thread sooner. but then thought whats the point in it..
    Anyways, will take sometime to get back..
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