[3:07:31 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I am definitely being hit hard with the scams. I have refunded yet his friends seem to think I am stupid or something. I am the ********* transaction. You'll see that I've refunded and I really have no problems.
[307 PM] BHW NUMBERS:
http://i.imgur.com/wDwqvnd.png
[3:20:01 PM] BHW NUMBERS:
http://i.imgur.com/swIlZ6M.png
I sent him a third refund, while we are waiting our flight. I'm calling them. I am pretty sure they'll tell me the same thing as it was refunded.
Name
*****************
Email
******************
Transaction ID
0DB60806UB832543X
Original payment
$125.00 USD
Amount Refunded by Seller
$125.00 USD
Fees Refunded by PayPal
$0.00 USD
Total Refund Amount
$125.00 USD Help
Source of Funds
Checking (Confirmed) x-12**
Note: Your PayPal balance isn't enough to cover this refund. The full refund amount will automatically come from SUNTRUST Checking (Confirmed) x-1283. This refund will take 3-5 business days to complete.
[5:47:41 AM] BHW NUMBERS: give me your bhw username
[5:47:44 AM] BHW NUMBERS: fuckin scammer
[3:09:
21 PM] BHW NUMBERS: you're shitlisted!
[3:09:
25 PM] BHW NUMBERS: motherfucker (finger)
[3:09:
40 PM] Graham Lorenzo: we are en route from vacation
[3:09:
49 PM] Graham Lorenzo: what are you talking about?
[3:10:
00 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I gave you a refund just like I showed you
[3:10:
27 PM] BHW NUMBERS: no, you didnt
[3:10:
31 PM] BHW NUMBERS: I didn't got any money
[3:10:
34 PM] Graham Lorenzo: yes i did
[3:10:
35 PM] BHW NUMBERS: hope u will get banned today
[3:10:
38 PM] Graham Lorenzo: you saw the email
[3:10:
40 PM] BHW NUMBERS: fuckin scammer
[3:10:
43 PM] Graham Lorenzo: i hope you get banned
[3:10:
48 PM] Graham Lorenzo: for lying
[3:10:
55 PM] BHW NUMBERS: fuck you! idiot
[3:10:
59 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I went on vacation
[3:11:
09 PM] Graham Lorenzo: i hate it when people use vulgar language
[3:11:
29 PM] BHW NUMBERS: I hate when I'm metting idiots scammers like you
[3:11:
30 PM] Graham Lorenzo: and try to pull fast ones
[3:11:
37 PM] Graham Lorenzo: i am not an idiot
[3:11:
42 PM] Graham Lorenzo: it was christmas
[3:11:
46 PM] BHW NUMBERS: don't care
[3:11:
51 PM] BHW NUMBERS: u owe me money for 2 weeks
[3:11:
51 PM] Graham Lorenzo: sorry that you arent from here
[3:11:
59 PM] Graham Lorenzo: but I dont live by my computer
[3:12:
03 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I dont
[3:12:
06 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I do care
[3:12:
11 PM] Graham Lorenzo: my family cares
[3:12:
14 PM] BHW NUMBERS: u'll get banned soon
don't worry
[3:12:
19 PM] Graham Lorenzo: why didnt you contact my dad
[3:12:
22 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I won't
[3:12:
27 PM] Graham Lorenzo: because I have proof
[3:12:
31 PM] BHW NUMBERS: because you're the retard who stolen my money
[3:12:
34 PM] BHW NUMBERS: not him
[3:12:
35 PM] Graham Lorenzo: cause you are lying
[3:12:
42 PM] Graham Lorenzo: he would have called me
[3:12:
47 PM] Graham Lorenzo: you know he would have
[3:13:
32 PM] Graham Lorenzo: I really don't appreciate your games dude
[3:13:
39 PM] Graham Lorenzo: or girl. i am sorry
[3:16:21 PM] Graham Lorenzo: and you know my bhw id name
[3:16:55 PM] BHW NUMBERS: I just found it today
[3:17:
03 PM] Graham Lorenzo: so stop playing games. If you truly haven't gotten your refund, let me see proof because I showed you proof on my behalf. I will call them right now
[3:17:
07 PM] BHW NUMBERS: I delete my PM's weekly
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I probably should have kept my mouth shut when I was being handed a golden nugget. Everyone has came out of the wood work lately.
I took off my Skype just for this whole ordeal.
Graham Lorenzo: Hey Apricot,
I know you and JazzC run the shitlist and I just wanted to approach because I entered a JV where I was doing a method that I had received from another member. He basically spoonfed me. It was in regards to game hacks.
I was part of Nanexo's lil keyword group. We were all talking. One of the guys wanted to invest in the method. I broke it down without giving it away to where they could take it from me. I wrote the whole plan out. I had been approaching people because it was lucrative. Even MrE said that I would have a good opportunity but he was looking for bigger.
So the kid and I get into this agreement. Around the holidays. I told him, I would start right after thanksgiving. I get things off the bat. I told him that he would be able to see the earnings since CPAGrip publicizes things. He wanted to know play by play. I told him what I was doing and Pong (my spoonfeeder) told me that I should get a bot made. I had the kids' 500 and went and proceeded. Then Mermaid and Nanexo were right there wanting me to refund Creativ3 because they wanted to get in on it and scale it up. Yet they wanted ALL the details laid out. I wasn't comfortable as Pong told me to not lay all my eggs out there.
They got mad when I wouldn't give them the method.
I am going to post the entire conversation between Creativ3 and I and you can decide what I should do. My bank found it in my favor. I don't have money. In fact, I am in the hole. That was the whole point of getting someone in this with me.
I wasn't here to scam. I wanted to make money and these two guys totally ganged up on me and have tried to turn people against me because I wasn't willing to share what was making the thing pop off.
I am overwhelmed as I have no clue what to do. Until the bank refunds me, my hands are tied. I have no words to express aside that I feel that I have dealt with every scammer to this forum.
http://1drv.ms/1OKLSH6 the chat logs.
I know it's going to shit list me because of this. I didn't scam anyone and I was just keeping my cards safe
This just gets better and better. You remember the dude who pretty much gave me the method. Well Creative went and sought him out. Pong tells him that he didn't give me a method because I seemed obsessed with money. I was like.. this is the guy who claimed that ******* was scamming him. He wanted accounts and it's like everyone wants everything for free..
Here is what I say to him via Skype before he blocks me: http://tinypic.com/r/2822dyu/9
He tells Creative this apparently.. https://gyazo.com/bf6233e23ff4c5a09702cdb0a03e0ed5
He offered to pay me so I could get the method going. I made these accounts and he never followed through. Then today, oldsalt tells me don't tell anyone he'd vouch for me. I was like, dude. I might be gullible but that's the last thing I would have anyone do. It hurts because I look like this complete idiot. Like I have no business being in business.
I am having people who have bought accounts demanding me to give them money back that were deals that go way back. I research and see they lead back to the three of them.
He's still harassing me about the method. I have since learned other things but I'm truly hoping that my luck will break and I will see success.
Definitely screwing with my head.
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​I take responsibility for this mess. I unfortunately have no money for Creativ3 in regards to the 500, he wanted a refunded almost immediately after I paid for the services. Unfortunately it's my bank's discretion. I have told him repeatedly that I wasn't looking to scam him and that I would find a way even if my bank didn't give me the provisional credit to back the claim. It is in their discretion to do so. I am not here to scam anyone. I can't get a job or I'd have one. I can just hope that I can continue to work through things and eventually I'll clear things up. Hopefully this suffices. There are others I am sure will come out of the woodwork, and like I have told everyone that I have dealt with. I will get this straightened out the best that I can.
Graham Lorenzo