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Scammed by GrahamCrackers

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by laranjagx4, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. laranjagx4

    laranjagx4 Regular Member

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    On Sept. 21st I added GrahamCrackers on skype and paid him $20 BTC. He was supposed to send me 10 Verizon sim cards.

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    The BTC wallet I sent the $20 to: https://blockchain.info/address/1NqCBjpjH9n3yDWLWaFhfvQZm2eKBDKthL

    After that, it has only been excuses. He claims that he shipped the sim cards, but never send the tracking number or show any proof that the sim cards have been sent. Also, given the time, the sim cards should have been arrived already.

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    I've given him enough time and I'm tired of his bullshit so I decided to open this thread not much for the $20 lost, but to warn people. The funny thing is this same user has 2 threads on the first page of The Shit List section claimed to have been scammed, yet he also scams people..

    If he ever reply to this thread, just contact me and send me back my $20, don't bother shipping me anything.
     
  2. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Accused member has been notified and has 48 hours to respond.
     
  3. GrahamCrackers

    GrahamCrackers BANNED BANNED

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    He wasn't scammed and it's the weekend. I paid for cheapest shipping since I put sims in the package.
    He got trigger happy and posted because his friends said I was scamming.
    I guess I'm SOL on both.
    I don't scam. Especially over 20 dollars. I may be hurting but not that bad.
    Also this deal was made in the instagram skype group. Not on bhw. Not saying it makes a difference. You paid for 10. I paid for the shipping and I didn't have enough to send expedited

    @writingismypassion.. you had no direct business with me and they chose not to deal with you because you couldn't get a moderator to be the escrow.
     
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  4. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Good, send him the tracking number tomorrow morning and update the thread.

    That's totally irrelevant as long as BHW members are involved.

    @everyone Remember SL rule #4.
     
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  5. GrahamCrackers

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    I wasn't stating that he couldn't say that, he made it seem like we did this in bhw. I will do that. Do I need to honor the request for the refund as well, because I can't afford that. I was given the sims because a friend felt sorry for me an thought the 400 sim cards would help me get back on my feet as far as money in my pockets.

    Thanks..
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    If they are already shipped, no.
     
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  7. laranjagx4

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    It's been a week already, how hard can it be to send a fucking tracking number???????????????????????????????????????????


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    I was a part of the deal as well, I invested $3USD to help laranjagx4 make the purchase and I was expecting to get 1 sim card as well, but it's been a week already and this is causing a serious damage on one of my methods. This behavior is unacceptable and I believe Graham is trying to scam because he claims he has shipped the SIM cards for days and no tracking code has been provided whatsoever. It takes no more than 5 seconds to write the tracking code, why wouldn't he do that?? I don't get it.
     
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  9. GrahamCrackers

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    first of all, it hasn't been a week. Let's break this down. The whole conversation started... you failed to realize that we had to turn the btc into a vcc, which took a minute. remember broke guy here..

    1. you paid me via btc, which I had to convert into a vcc (which is read) I contacted a source. They cleared it Wednesday evening.
    2. Mailed out by my pocket, since 1.15 was the price for each sim so do the math. I actually cut into my pocket. Plus, I paid for shipping.
    3 it went out thursday
    [TR="class: odd"] [/TR]
    UPS GroundLatest Pickup Time: 6:15 P.M. Thursday September 24, 2015 Schedule by : 5:15 P.M. Days In Transit: 3 Delivered By: By End of Day Tuesday September 29, 2015 Guaranteed 13.23 USD [SUP]*[/SUP]Billable Weight:1.0 lbs.

    I am not trying to toot my horn, but I am certainly not here to scam for 20.00 dollars. Times are tough but not to the point where I need to be ridiculed and mocked..
    I have been shitlisted for far more and I have made right by my word.

    http://postimg.org/image/h9ltsphk5

    ----then you have your friends come on board. ----

    [4:33:09 PM] *** DonnieBrascoBHW would like to add you on Skype


    Hallo Graham, ich mchte Sie als Kontakt aufnehmen. ***
    [4:34:10 PM] *** Graham has shared contact details with DonnieBrascoBHW. ***
    [4:36:09 PM] Graham: Sup, yo?
    [5:33:49 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: not much
    [5:33:50 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you online?
    [5:40:17 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: so
    [5:40:22 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you are in the scamming business
    [5:40:23 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: wanna jv?
    [5:40:37 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i know ways to get more then just pathetic 20$ with a 300posts+ acc
    [5:56:08 PM] Graham: lol
    [5:56:39 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: not interested?
    [5:57:10 PM] Graham: what you got in mind?
    [5:57:40 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: spamming new accs up to 4-500 posts within a month and then createing a SEO Service with high authortiy backlinks with multiple fake and paid reviews
    [5:57:41 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: wanna jv?
    [5:57:48 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i saw that you spammed over 300 posts just to scam 20$
    [5:57:58 PM] Graham: nooo
    [5:57:59 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: so i thought maybe you dont know shit about scamming and just wanted to earn some pocket money for candies
    [5:58:06 PM] Graham: lol
    [5:58:18 PM] Graham: i can't tell if you are joking or serious
    [5:58:23 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: im serious
    [5:58:29 PM] Graham: but no, i am really not in the scamming business
    [5:58:30 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i need someone to help me spam up the accounts
    [5:58:36 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i already have 13 accounts with over 100 posts on bhw
    [5:58:39 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: but we need more
    [5:58:42 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: we share the profit 60:40
    [5:58:47 PM] Graham: spamming is different
    [5:59:11 PM] Graham: what we gotta do
    [5:59:27 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yeah, we use those accounts to give us a lot of trustworthy reviews
    [5:59:34 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i have writers who can write detailed reviews and are experienced in the SEO niche
    [5:59:40 PM] Graham: hm
    [5:59:47 PM] Graham: so what do I need to do?
    [5:59:51 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: for now
    [5:59:57 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: just create more accoutns and spam them up to over 100 posts
    [6:00:02 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: we cant post fake reviews with new accs
    [6:00:06 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: they need to have some authority
    [6:00:14 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: so you are in? 60:40 share is ok for you?
    [6:00:20 PM] Graham: more bhw accounts?
    [6:00:23 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yes
    [6:00:27 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: we will do that completely on bhw
    [6:00:32 PM] Graham: depends on how much is being earned
    [6:00:33 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: people spend a lot of money in backlinks
    [6:00:52 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i think we can scam for around 4-6 weeks once we start
    [6:00:56 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: should be an easy 20-30k
    [6:01:21 PM] Graham: dang dude, this is getting kinda scary and funny
    [6:01:46 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: up to you, if you want to keep scamming 20-30$ its fine
    [6:01:46 PM] Graham: i want to because i need money but I like my grahamcrackers account and seriously wasn't scamming
    [6:01:52 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: but if you want make real bank, just hit me up
    [6:01:58 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you did not scam vini?
    [6:02:00 PM] Graham: i'm here
    [6:02:03 PM] Graham: no
    [6:02:10 PM] Graham: my buddy gave me sim cards
    [6:02:12 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: then where are his simcards or tracking number you little shit
    [6:03:01 PM] Graham: i don't have any reason and I left the tracking receipt along with my other receipts on my desk. I paid for the shipping
    [6:03:13 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: so
    [6:03:16 PM] Graham: and I couldn't afford expedited shipping
    [6:03:17 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you cant type in a few numbers?
    [6:03:25 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: must be hard to be illiterate
    [6:03:34 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you use voice recognition to communicate?
    [6:03:41 PM] Graham: honestly.. no it wasn't that. no
    [6:03:45 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: ok
    [6:03:51 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: send his simcards or not
    [6:03:54 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: up to you
    [6:03:56 PM] Graham: i have three kids and a lot on my head
    [6:04:02 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: then you must be one hell of a loser dad
    [6:04:04 PM] Graham: they were sent
    [6:04:05 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: who scams 20$
    [6:04:16 PM] Graham: i guess if thats the abuse i need to hear
    [6:04:24 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yes
    [6:04:25 PM] Graham: there was no scamming
    [6:04:32 PM] Graham: but whatever i guess
    [6:04:35 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: its easier to just come out and say you scammed if someone gives you a reason right?
    [6:04:44 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i completely understand that
    [6:04:51 PM] Graham: i don't need to scam
    [6:05:00 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yeah, you make enough bank with your payday loan site
    [6:05:07 PM] Graham: i may not have the money i want
    [6:05:08 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: btw, say goodbye to your adsense acc
    [6:05:11 PM] Graham: but i am trying
    [6:05:17 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yeah, you dont try enough
    [6:05:26 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: you dont get anywhere with scamming, at least not on the level you practice
    [6:05:27 PM] Graham: thats your perception
    [6:05:46 PM] Graham: see, you don't know me and you are biased
    [6:05:52 PM] Graham: your friend is vini
    [6:05:58 PM] Graham: and i am a nobody to you
    [6:06:05 PM] Graham: i'm okay with that
    [6:06:20 PM] Graham: but i didnt scam him for 20
    [6:06:25 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yeah
    [6:06:29 PM] Graham: i am trying to get in business
    [6:06:29 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: the tracking number recipt is on your desk
    [6:06:35 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: but you cant type it down, i understand that
    [6:06:39 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: makes complete sense
    [6:06:47 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: look, its easy
    [6:06:48 PM] Graham: it didn't bother me
    [6:06:50 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: either vini gets his simcards
    [6:06:53 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: or your bhw account is dead anyways
    [6:07:01 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: since i will send DD the screenshots of this conversation
    [6:07:04 PM] Graham: its dead anyways regardless
    [6:07:05 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: no
    [6:07:12 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: if the simcards appear
    [6:07:18 PM] Graham: i stand by my word
    [6:07:19 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i will keep the screens
    [6:07:21 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: ok
    [6:07:25 PM] Graham: but listen
    [6:07:29 PM] Graham: these threats
    [6:07:33 PM] Graham: my account is dead
    [6:07:34 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: then let actions follow your words
    [6:07:41 PM] Graham: they always have
    [6:07:44 PM] Graham: archive me
    [6:07:52 PM] Graham: i've been shitlisted before
    [6:07:58 PM] Graham: for far more
    [6:08:03 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yes, but you should know, i dont give a fuck \_(ツ)_/
    [6:08:07 PM] Graham: because i am very flighty
    [6:08:15 PM] Graham: you apparently do though
    [6:08:21 PM] Graham: or you are a hypocrite
    [6:08:31 PM] Graham: i get it, thats your buddy
    [6:08:39 PM] Graham: stand by your friends
    [6:08:40 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: i dont give a fuck about you and your life, when it comes to vini, things are different
    [6:08:47 PM] Graham: exactly
    [6:08:52 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: so, as said, let action follows your words
    [6:09:00 PM] Graham: so don't say you don't give a fuck, when you do
    [6:09:14 PM] Graham: this isnt about anything other than vini and his money
    [6:10:25 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: your business, if 6 cent per bhw posts are enough, i could hire you as forum poster for backlinks
    [6:10:29 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: cheaper then ani pakistani
    [6:10:59 PM] Graham: i am far more expensive, i have an awesome background
    [6:11:06 PM] Graham: like i stated
    [6:11:40 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: yes, i see your background, the background of a family father who scams 20$ for 3 months of work, your kids have to be very proud of you
    [6:11:43 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: im out now
    [6:11:44 PM] DonnieBrascoBHW: cu
    [6:11:45 PM] Graham: i'm not here to scam, make money to support my life sure
    [6:11:48 PM] Graham: but scamming no
    [6:12:07 PM] Graham: you know..
    [6:12:11 PM] Graham: yeah never mind
    [6:12:14 PM] Graham: see you later
     
  10. DonnieBrasco

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    Just had a very interesting Conversation with this Graham Guy, everyone can read it here: http://e70.imgup.net/scam3d7a.png

    Too long to hotlink the image, definitely worth the time to read.

    PS: i hate scammers, no one will ever see me scam just a $ here, so dont worry, was just a bait.

    Edit: how the fuck do you even provide clean water to your children if you have to make such a fuss about a 20$ order.
     
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  11. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Wtf is this? There is an ongoing SL and you just had the great idea of trying to bait him and harass him over Skype? Why? To make the work of the Moderator harder? You were going to prove anything with this? How? Even if he took the bait, it could have been as a way to "expose" you to win brownie points for the SL. So let's stop the vigilante squad acrobatics.

    I have already stated what Graham needs to do tomorrow. Any other crap like that until then, it's your account that will be on the line.
     
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    I didn't take the bait, but I genuinely didn't scam this kid over 20 bucks but everyone loves a good shit list thread. It's rainy so it must be bored Sunday or maybe the teams aren't winning. I apologize for being flaky and not thinking to bring home the tracking slip. That was my bad.

    This is crazy. I have got to be the dumbest member on bhw.

    @donniebrasco.. everyone knows my wife is the breadwinner in my family. If you'd read thoroughly, maybe you'd know that..
     
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  13. laranjagx4

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    Why don't you just post the tracking number? Honestly, this is all I've been asking, for days. It can't be that hard.
     
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    I have no access to the office where I am under a contractor using the space. It's why I asked you the other day to remind me in the AM to get that. I seriously forgot, I had no idea that this would become a major issue and would blow up over 10 sims and 20 dollars. Not knocking you by no means. I definitely will remember in the am, to post and you should have the sims by Tuesday which is the 29th.

    Graham

    P.S. Not that it was your responsibility to remind me of anything...
     
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    Any update Graham?
     
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    Good evening..
    I went into the co-op space this morning as I check in every day. Gerry (my contractor) wasn't there. So I'm not allowed in the work space since I'm not on his contract for the co-working space.
    The package is supposed to be there tomorrow. I don't know Gerry's schedule. He's just told me he'll let me know when he's there to update the contract so I can come and go. I just started working with him not too long ago.

    Since it is my word vs the OP's. I am fully prepared to give a refund if needed and cut my losses. I don't know any other way to get the tracking number. I do a lot of side work at this place because of the resources. I honestly didn't think it would lead to a shitlist. When this deal just transpired.
    I'll definitely update the thread once I know more.

    Graham
     
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    Edited - I don't want to be further involved.

    I want no part in this. Goodluck to everyone involved.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Definitely do let us know.
     
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    Another excuse to post a simple tacking number... Honestly, I wasted too much time with this already. Send me back my $20, my BTC wallet is 15bqwFDdTajdUQ551eNeqRvdLk1ZjstZUV
     
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    I am deleting this. I called paypal again and they reversed the payment.
     
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