Scammed by abookyent(jr.vip)

Grovsta · Apr 10, 2013

Hello,

User http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/112114-abookyent.html contacted me on skype regarding the Emailing JV thread I had. The deal was, he gives me a nice job leads list and I email his offer, he gives me 50% of the earnings (told me we are getting $6 per lead) plus agreed to share cost of the mailing setup which was $30 from his side. He promised to paypal me $30 once we start mailing. When I started mailing he said he will send those $30 with the first payment.

I sent the emails, they were inboxed, leads were generated.. slowly he started not replying me and told me that I will be getting $1.5 per lead.

Seriously? $1.5 instead of $3? and he didnt share the server costs.

Last time I was told 41 leads and till now it would have been over 100 leads.

The list he gave me was a very old one and 20% emails got boucned, which resulted in server getting blacklisted on the ESP's. The server had virgin ips. He told me that the list was old after emails were sent!

Its not a HUGE amount, its about the scamming activity by a Jr. VIP.

I have all the proofs of skype conovs which I am attaching. Also have the server from which I emailed his lists.

Moral of the story: Being a Jr. VIP doesnt make a user legit. Be careful when dealing with people (be it anyone).

Thanks and Regards

Valefor · Apr 10, 2013

color of name doesnt defines who you are here in BHW

sorry for the little lost mate

lets wait for the mods so this guy gets hammerized

Grovsta · Apr 10, 2013

Valefor said:
color of name doesnt defines who you are here in BHW sorry for the little lost mate lets wait for the mods so this guy gets hammerized

The money involved was very little.. Its about the scam he did. Waiting for the mods to act on this.

Thanks

gergo2007 · Apr 10, 2013

Sorry to hear this. Anyone who is "bro"-ing me is unprofessional, i don't deal with them.
Take care

howard_hughes · Apr 10, 2013

Wow people are scamming for a couple of hundred bucks.. The worst thing about such scams is that people stop trusting others.

Hope you get your money back

massguru said:
The money involved was very little.. Its about the scam he did. Waiting for the mods to act on this.

Thanks

Roshaen · Apr 10, 2013

I Guess Few Hundred Bucks Won't Matter a Lot Here But Thank God it was not few thousand bucks deal Otherwise It Could Have Been worse.I Don't know why people want to scam they are just loosing there Own reputation that took a long time to build.

Tony Barns · Apr 10, 2013

Just another greedy moron willing to do anything for a few bucks. He will learn the hard way. Hope you get that cash back.

abookyent · Apr 10, 2013

Hello I'm here to reply to my shut list thread. Is this guy serious. First of all I had a convo with this guy and asked him if he could inbox. He told me he was an expierenced emailer. I told this guy I AK looking for more data and we will continue to do business. his inbox rate is terrible. Just because there's opens on emails doesn't mean there actually clicks of users. A lot of the time there are bot opens that bring up the open rate of the email. I sent this guy screen shots out of 25k emails sent this guy only got 30 submission which tells me his inbox rate is very low. Every email he sent me went to spam. The send email I put in my list also went to spam. Which shows me he is also not a good emailer. Please tell me where I scammed this guy.

TheVigilante · Apr 10, 2013

is this even a shitlist material i suppose there was no investment thing from both the parties the only investment i see is time

Xp3r7 · Apr 10, 2013

Did he make conversions(money) - yes. Do you paid him the half - no.

Here's the scam.

abookyent · Apr 10, 2013

No its not shit list thread material. This guy can not inbox emails like he claims. I agreed to pay the 50% of server costs if he was a sucessfully emailer which he is not. He wasted a lot of time. At this point it all depends on what the mods suggest I do. I'm done doing business with him. I didnt scam him. I didn't take a dollar of his money. He didnt generate 40 something leads it was more like 25 leads. I told this guy ill message him when i have more data and he posts a shit list thread. Mods what do you think I should do. Id also like my screenshots removed because my links are in the screenshots.

abookyent · Apr 10, 2013

I was going to give him another shot at it. Which is why I told him i was getting more data and will message him shortly. I come back on bhw and see this post. So now ill pay him his small earnings and remove him and never do business again. I in no shape way or form was trying to scam this guy at all what so ever. I dont scam.

Xp3r7 · Apr 10, 2013

Well, that's a different thing and depends on the deal between you and him.
Let mods decide who's right and who's wrong here

Gormagor · Apr 10, 2013

I'm not surprised. If I were a scammer, the first thing I'd do is buy a Jr. VIP subscription to inflate my apparent trustworthiness.

What newbies don't realise is that anyone can be a Jr. VIP as long as they have 100 posts. The quality of your posts aren't screened, nor is reputation taken into account. It doesn't matter whether those 100 posts are hugely beneficial to the community, or made by Xrumer. After that 100 mark is reached and payment is made, you're blue.

MadMaddy · Apr 10, 2013

abookyent said:
No its not shit list thread material. This guy can not inbox emails like he claims. I agreed to pay the 50% of server costs if he was a sucessfully emailer which he is not. He wasted a lot of time. At this point it all depends on what the mods suggest I do. I'm done doing business with him. I didnt scam him. I didn't take a dollar of his money. He didnt generate 40 something leads it was more like 25 leads. I told this guy ill message him when i have more data and he posts a shit list thread. Mods what do you think I should do. Id also like my screenshots removed because my links are in the screenshots.

It's not about inboxing or shit, you have received leads from the mail he sent. Now pay up for it instead of posting BS

lietuvis002 · Apr 10, 2013

wtf be this shit for real

Simply Social · Apr 10, 2013

WHY in the hell is it possible he can still scam? I shitlisted him 1 year ago and there we talked about 1300$

Adaro · Apr 10, 2013

This concludes that your so called mighty paid 'Titles' do not guarantee you are someone who is truly legit.

Deleted member 364366 · Apr 10, 2013

Adaro said:
This concludes that your so called mighty paid 'Titles' do not guarantee you are someone who is truly legit.

Of course not, to be a Jr VIP all you have to have done is been here for 90 days, have made 100 posts and paid $97. That doesn't prove that you're not a scammer at all!

seriousjoker · Apr 10, 2013

Deleted member 364366 said:
Of course not, to be a Jr VIP all you have to have done is been here for 90 days, have made 100 posts and paid $97. That doesn't prove that you're not a scammer at all!

Why to be a Jr VIP then? Just for geting blue color font, which obiviosuly I do not like. There must be a better way to evalute a person other than his title, which as per posts of various senior members does not prove anything.
And ironically this shit cost less than jr vip title cost.

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