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Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by antrvant, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. antrvant

    antrvant Junior Member

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    need someone help my site out of "stupidbox"

    my site ranking in first page of yahoo + bing but nowhere in google. (new site 12days old, but someone create in in 2002 for 1 year)
     
  2. googlemonster

    googlemonster Supreme Member

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    Was it ranking then dropped son?
     
  3. aznxmtg

    aznxmtg Regular Member

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    New sites are normally in "sandbox" how much backlinks you want?
     
  4. antrvant

    antrvant Junior Member

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    it ranks well on yahoo, bing but not in google (it's new, no ranking before)
     
  5. volund

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    Bing and Yahoo have nothing to do with Google, just because a site ranks well in one of them does not meain you will rank in the others. This probably has nothing to do with some sandbox it just means Google does not think your site is worth ranking yet.

    What have you done as far as backlinking? How competitive are your keywords? Lots of factors that control where your site is ranked. Why do you think your 12 day old site deserves to be be ranked already?
     
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  6. 15challenger

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    My site was ranking for 5-6 keywords on 2nd-3rd page few days back and now it's gone. Vanished! Google webmasters showed 15 backlinks but now shows 0. My site isn't deindexed. It appears in google when searched for site:xxxx.com but for keywords it doesn't rank. The content was original. Any idea what happened? Site is 25 days old. For backlinks, I comment on few blogs/created hubs and few profile backlinks.
     
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  7. antrvant

    antrvant Junior Member

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    I did 7k verified backlink (xrumer profiles), one way link from PR 4,3 website (homepage), from article directories, social networking, directories, blog comments, etc

    the keyword is : car claims, car claims uk
    Domain name: only have keyword inside

    btw, why I rank well on bing and yahoo but no visitor from them. (keyword is hot, using google.com/trends can see the result many people search that keyword)
     
  8. tonyy

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    u did 7k of backlinks in 12 days and r u asking why ur vanished? ask urself dude :(
     
  9. lablinks

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    Have you tried to search it from a different IP/computer. If you search for the same site many times from the same computer, it may appear ranking high on search engines on that particular computer, while in reality you don't really rank where you think you do.

    So first make sure you really rank where you think you rank.
    Second, do a keyword research & make sure that people are searching for those terms, otherwise you can rank as high as you want for keywords noone is searching for, there is no use to it.
    Third, make sure you have an appealing meta description.

    As for google, I don't really think you are "sanboxed", if there is such a thing exist. What I think happened, is that the backlinks that google considered worthy are probably deleted by now. That's the only reasonable explanation I can think of, as long as your site is still somewhere in google search results.
     
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    antrvant Junior Member

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    but the key is that google doesn't know all of em yet.

    even I use siteexplorer yahoo search, it only finds around 40 backlinks atm.

    btw, Google put me in sandbox before I used xrumer service
     
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    antrvant Junior Member

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    I use tools to check keyword position + my own PC. same result mates
     
  12. volund

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    Seriously dude what were you thinking?? What you need to do now is just keeping building yourself some links at a steady pace and wait it out. It could be a week, it could be three months but if you keep building the links it will come back. I would try and go for as many on page pr quality links as you can and up the quality of your profile links to higher pr sites but other than that not much else to do but build and wait.

    As far as Bing and Yahoo goes the amount of traffic they send you is low. On some terms I have found Yahoo to send some traffic but Bing seriously sucks as far as converting a good ranking to any decent amount of traffic.
     
  13. lablinks

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    I've never had shit from bing myself. Are there people that are using it? :) I for one can't think of a single person.

    Yahoo is ok though.
     
  14. Chronos

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    You've now got a good list of initial backlinks...

    I'd start building links slowly and naturally, so Google can look at your site and say, "Oh, okay, he's got 7k backlinks and his newer backlinks are all natural!"
     
  15. googlemonster

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    So in theory you can do this to competitors?
     
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    Well maybe it does or a lot of them, that's the difference between crawling and indexing.
     
  17. googlemonster

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    That's incorrect, he's most likely ranking way up like page 60+ for his keywords. AKA sandbox, due to lots of links at once. I'm not sure how they 'know' my guess is same anchor text repeated over and over, which would statistically on there part be unnatural. It's hard to say really.
     
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    nattylight Newbie

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    Jack shit from bing over here. I'm ranked on the first page there for a pretty popular search term, and I haven't seen a soul from Bing.
     
  19. lablinks

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    The question is not really how they would know, it's more like how they would know it was him who made the links. Like you said, you could do it to a competitor's website & screw them over. I really, really doubt the whole sandboxing thing for that reason. Banning a site, yes. Sandboxing, I'm not saying it's impossible, I just really doubt it.
     
  20. googlemonster

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    That's what I don't understand how they know its him who made the links. The sandbox does exist I have currently 2 bloody sites stuck in it, like I was first page for a certain keyword and many others, now they are on page 62 for example of Google. I have checked and it is there so I know it exists.