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Same Surfer fills out multiple leads

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by scubaslick, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. scubaslick

    scubaslick Regular Member

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    I've got a really strong relationship with a pretty good sized list. Basically I can get them to do anything I want that doesn't involve taking their clothes off. :)

    If I do incent leads only, will flags go up if the same person fills in a bunch of them at the same network, or accross networks?

    This isn't anything blackhat really but it would LOOK blackhat to me if I were an AM.

    Hmmm. This scuba guy is running some decent traffic....<meddle meddle> hmmm. Joe Blow is apparently interested in insurance and losing weight and hair care products and cat food and diapers. Hmmmm. Conversion rate 98%.

    BAN!

    Am I over thinking?

    Should I build a GPT site to funnel them through just to be safe?

    And with a GPT site, do I need to send junk traffic or will a 90+% conversion rate be acceptable?

    Thanks for any advice,
     
  2. vmedia

    vmedia Regular Member

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    why don't you rotate cpa offers to keep the conversion rates low?
     
  3. scubaslick

    scubaslick Regular Member

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    I guess the honest answer is greed. I can get them to do whatever I want. If I said, "Hey, help me out by going to these 45 offers and filling them in" many of them would do it without question.

    By my calculations just the incent offers at N3verblu3 are worth about $600 per person in commissions and there are 45 (or so) of them.

    My list is several thousand people.

    2,000 x $600 = nice little bungalow on the beach and enough residual income to basically never have to hit the 9 to 5 again so I could market till my nipples fell off (actually that doesn't sound like much fun, but I really like marketing!) :)

    2,000 x $12$ = a real waste of an opportunity. I'll do it if that's the best I can get, but I just have this sense that there's a way to exploit this more fully than that.

    The problem is I've put a lot of time and effort into building this thing, nurturing the relationships, building value with the list. Unfortunately I can't duplicate it (long story) so I can't afford to screw it up. Once I "turn on the faucet" I only get 1 shot at it basically so I want to maximize my return and minimize my risk.

    The problem is finding the balance between how much I ask my list to do for me, how much I'll make out of it, and how much the networks will let me get away with without smacking me down.
     
  4. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    Maybe you should ask the manager directly? I might be the crazy one, but if the traffic's legit I can't see them being too upset.

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  5. DeskCoder

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    I don't see it being a problem, but like above said, ask.

    I mean, look at Incentive sites, the same person completes all those offers ...
     
  6. scubaslick

    scubaslick Regular Member

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    @apekillape: I don't want to tell the AM how I built the list OR give them any reason to look any closer at my other traffic. ;) These folks will do what I tell them because of how I got them in the list; that method is definitely blackhat and not something I intend to share with my network(s).

    @deskcoder: Yeah, I thought about funneling them through an incent site. That would sort of launder the leads a bit. Problem is I've never done an incent site so I have no idea what the pitfalls are. I guess it's time to bust out the search feature.

    Thanks everybody.