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*** s0phia *** is a BIG SCAMMER *** BEWARE ***

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by wealth54, Jun 11, 2010.

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  1. wealth54

    wealth54 Regular Member

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    Be ware from s0phia guys , He scammed me . I tried to contact him several days its been many days hes not bothering to replying me even . I used to send him w4m leads he paid me on time payment first few days . after few days he didnt contact me for several days I messaged him tons of time then he said me hes on some family probs then I said ok but u dont need more then 2 mins to send my payment as you are online whole day u can send my payemnt ofcourse. no response :/ . after 3~4 days he was saying me,he was waiting for payment from adult network if he didnt get payment from network he couldnt pay me . the deal was I will send him leads he will pay me. I trusted him cos he was a JNR Vip . but seems few people are doing bad thing with this status ( not all people though ) . he get paid from network or not. its not leads provider business. He must pay me. anyway he owe me more then 1k$+

    so BE-CAREFUL guys whos providing leads service please get upfront payment even hes JNR VIP or trusted memeber dont send leads before payment. people are pretending to be good first then scamming , shame on you s0phia
     
  2. tymillz

    tymillz Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I see that you emphasize that he is Jr.VIp. Jr. VIp is a paid status, not some sort of gift that makes members exempt from scamming.

    So please do your due diligence when doing business with any member.

    If the devil joined the forum and bought Jr.Vip would you trust him ?
     
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  3. digitalworldz

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    hehehe i agree with tymillz
     
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  4. wealth54

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    mod please ban s0phia . hes will scam other people in future too :s
     
  5. BigBuddy

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    sophia is online now and pmed about this thread. lets wait for the reply.
     
  6. CenTex Hosting

    CenTex Hosting Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yep I agree. Before mods can just go off and start banning people they need both sides of the story.

    What would this site become if they just banned because we post something saying that xyz did this please ban.

    IMO
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  7. s0phia

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    Thanks BigBuddy for pming me, didnt notice this thread.

    Wealth54 tried to sell me shared leads, even though i asked for **exclusive** leads, which he assured me that they were.

    So i found out that leads were in fact **shared with two other people**, which reduces the value of the leads significantly. Add the fact that he lied to me and then he gets no payment, simple as that.

    He should be on the shit list, not me, if you buy leads from him you might want to check if you get what he promised you.

    Thanks,
    s0phia :)
     
  8. jburrtucaz

    jburrtucaz Regular Member

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    I think someone needs to post chat logs because we're getting two totally different explanations as to what happened. So, which one of you would like to post the unedited chat logs so we can see who's telling the truth?
     
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  9. BigBuddy

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    ok sophia, could you tell, how you know he shared leads with two other people?


    @op - Do you have chat logs?
     
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  10. wealth54

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    My chat history with s0phia
    hes a big liar here you go BigBuddy

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    Sunday, May 16, 2010
    me (1:40:33 AM): hey man
    me (1:40:35 AM): how r u
    me (1:41:24 AM): I need to withdraw payment today
    me (1:41:29 AM): plz send my payment
    me (1:42:13 AM): 60K leads
    me (1:44:09 AM): u paid me 52k leads payment
    me (1:44:40 AM): plz send me payment now , if I dont withdraw with in 2~3 hrs I need to wait another week for withdrarwing my payment
    me (1:44:53 AM): i sent u mails
    seriousim1 signed off at 3:33:02 AM
    me (6:17:35 AM): dude , u should send me payment
    Monday, May 17, 2010
    me (5:42:12 AM): what happend sir
    me (5:42:16 AM): u suppose to send me payment
    me (5:42:20 AM): but u r not sending
    me (5:42:22 AM): i sent u emails
    me (5:42:27 AM): and message on IM
    seriousim1 signed off at 9:07:09 AM
    me (7:32:59 PM): hey bro
    me (7:33:08 PM): what happend mate :-(
    me (7:33:17 PM): u should atleast reply me
    me (7:57:01 PM): bro
    me (7:57:05 PM): i m waiting for your response
    me (9:16:19 PM): hello bro
    me (10:15:37 PM): hello
    seriousim1 signed off at 11:03:27 PM
    me (11:52:19 PM): man is it fear at all , you are coming online but not bothering to reply me
    me (11:52:43 PM): u should pay my bill
    me (11:53:32 PM): i need to feed my family karl , plz send my payment
    Tuesday, May 18, 2010
    seriousim1 (12:06:30 AM): im fucking having several personal problems all right
    me (12:07:30 AM): sorry to hear mate , cant u just wait few mins to send my payment bro , i really need the money badly
    me (12:08:05 AM): cant u spend few mins to send my payment *
    seriousim1 returned at 5:32:02 AM
    seriousim1 went away at 5:32:02 AM
    seriousim1 signed off at 8:20:55 AM
    me (11:40:43 PM): hi mate
    me (11:45:10 PM): please send my payment
    Wednesday, May 19, 2010
    me (12:06:20 AM): hello mr
    me (12:07:08 AM): my humble request please send my payment
    me (12:32:49 AM): hello
    me (1:17:06 AM): mate plz send my payment
    me (9:46:06 PM): send my payment please
    me (10:05:55 PM): hello
    me (10:07:41 PM): plz humble request
    me (11:16:24 PM): plz send my payment , i m eagerly waiting for your reply
    seriousim1 (11:46:33 PM): biller hasnt paid me yet, if biller doesnt pay me i cant pay you either, ill send payment when biller pays me
    me (11:48:00 PM): if biller doesnt pay u , u wont pay my bill ?
    seriousim1 (11:48:32 PM): yes
    me (11:56:47 PM): i m not your worker dude
    me (11:56:51 PM): i m selling service
    me (11:56:59 PM): u get payment or not , u must pay my bill
    me (11:57:25 PM): I trusted u and now u r playing games with me
    me (11:57:28 PM): good job mate
    seriousim1 (11:58:19 PM): of course you are my worker, you work for me, and im not playing games, just cant pay if biller doesnt pay me
    me (11:58:33 PM): stfu
    seriousim1 (11:58:34 PM): as soon as i get payment from biller ill pay you
    me (11:58:42 PM): i m not your worker
    me (11:58:46 PM): I work my self
    me (11:58:53 PM): i m just selling service
    seriousim1 (11:59:04 PM): kk
    Thursday, May 20, 2010
    me (12:14:50 AM): in which network u sent traffic ?
    seriousim1 signed off at 8:56:49 AM
    Friday, May 21, 2010
    me (6:28:14 AM): hey mate u got payment ?
    Saturday, May 22, 2010
    me (8:14:08 AM): hello
    me (11:10:51 AM): mate
    me (11:10:55 AM): u got payment?
    me (9:55:44 PM): yo
    seriousim1 (9:56:32 PM): mate i havnt received payment yet, and i am not happy about it, trust me
    me (10:00:43 PM): i understand mate,
    me (10:00:54 PM): adult network fucked me before too
    me (10:01:00 PM): which network u r working with ?
    seriousim1 (10:02:02 PM): was working with a biller directly, no network
    me (10:02:23 PM): biller not paying on time , damn its really hurt
    seriousim1 (10:03:00 PM): with the amount they are owing me it sure does.. i hope i can pay you soon mate
    me (10:03:19 PM): thnx mate , i hope u will get payment soon
    Sunday, May 23, 2010
    me (1:15:44 AM): what u r doing now to make money mate?
    Tuesday, May 25, 2010
    me (10:20:08 AM): hello
    Wednesday, May 26, 2010
    me (11:32:33 PM): hello
    Thursday, May 27, 2010
    seriousim1 signed off at 6:19:05 AM
    me (2:04:28 PM): hey bro
    me (2:04:33 PM): plz send my payment
    me (10:04:18 PM): hello Mr
    Friday, May 28, 2010
    me (10:21:40 PM): Hello mate
    me (10:21:45 PM): plz send my payment
    Sunday, May 30, 2010
    me (2:42:44 AM): please send my payment ,
    Tuesday, June 01, 2010
    me (1:00:40 AM): hello
    seriousim1 signed off at 4:28:48 AM
    Wednesday, June 02, 2010
    me (9:16:30 PM): hello
    me (9:55:25 PM): Mr plz send my payment
    Thursday, June 03, 2010
    me (2:07:08 AM): yo
    me (5:55:09 PM): HELLO
    me (5:55:13 PM): u should send my payment
    me (10:27:17 PM): hello mr
    me (10:27:27 PM): r u going to pay me or not ?
    me (10:29:00 PM): I sold u leads , its not my issue if u get paid from network or not , u must pay my due
    me (10:33:50 PM): reply me back when u r arround
    me (10:47:36 PM): if you dont pay my due , i will put u on shitlist in BHW remember , i sent u leads and u must pay my bill
    Friday, June 04, 2010
    seriousim1 signed off at 6:45:41 AM
    me (7:23:45 PM): i m going to put u on shitlist
    me (7:23:48 PM): i waited long time
     
  11. wealth54

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    s0phia is BIG LIAR guys , I never sold him shared leads , i sent him exclusive leads always . I dont do monopoly games with money
     
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    Sorry to hear that wealth but there are many people out there who do not have a 100% secure biller or any clue and trying to get leads on pro-rated basis so they dont need to prepay a dime or have risk to loose their own money.If it would work i bet he would get the bigger part of the cake.So its your risk but his win ;)
     
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  13. wolfmann

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    wealth54, in fact what you have sold to s0phia ? What leads mean ? Sorry for noob question..
     
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    Fine. wealth posted the chat logs. Now sophia has to prove that the leads he sold are not exclusive. Further, in the above chat log, sophia did n't mention anywhere that leads are not exclusive. he says that biller company did n't pay. Wealth's job is to supply the leads and it seems he done his job.

    lets wait for the sophia's reply.
     
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    w4m leads / w4m responses from CL
     
  16. MisterGemini

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    Wow.. who needs TV soaps when you got this! :)

    BigBuddy is certainly handling this properly, which is nice to see. He accepted the evidence of wealth54 and is giving sophia an opportunity. Though I think it should be timely. Wealth produced the chat log within 20 minutes of request. If sophia takes too long I think it might be tainted evidence which would lead to requiring a shared session view.

    Two vouch for wealth on his leads, which the sophia got screwed out of paying possibly due to the leads not being exclusive like they were suppose to. It can go either way. Though this story of non-exclusive leads seems to be rather late. Sophia went on for weeks saying he would pay him, so there doesn't seem to be any indication that he was not happy with what was delivered.

    This is so exciting. It's like CSI BHW :)
     
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    :D Didnt know wealth is the guy i bought some leads before as he is using another nick on aim. All i can say is i will vouch with my account and rep for the quality of his leads
     
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    Waiting for s0phias full side of the story we cannot just take a pasted chat as evidence as they can be made up.
     
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    To the OP, never, ever deliver goods without getting payment first. I've been online for years, and I have realize people tend not to pay way more often if you deliver the goods upfront(regardless of the quality of the products/reputation).

    And, you ended up begging for the cash from Sophia, which is not a nice place to be. Take cash upfront, provide reviews if needed.

    Paypal doesn't allow refunds for virtual goods.. why? It is so easy for the buyer to say the goods are shit, and there is almost no way to verify it. It is common for this to happen.
     
  20. s0phia

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    Those logs are fake. On May 16 I found out that leads are shared and with one line I told him that he won't get payment because he lied to me.

    How do you want me to prove that leads were shared instead of exclusive? I found out by replying to one ad he posted and then I got 3 responses back with the same subject, one of those emails coming from my autoresponder.

    That's by the way the 6th guy that tried to sell me shared leads as exclusives.
     
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