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Room-for-rent scams on craigslist?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by cdenet, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. cdenet

    cdenet Registered Member

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    My marriage of 19 years went kaput tonight. So I'm looking for rooms to rent on craigslist and some of them seem TGTBT.

    Are there common scams out there that I should watch out for?

    I don't want one of my fellow blackhatters to direct to me to a dating site or some friggin thing before I can see a room.

    No affiliate links please :)
     
  2. Irukichan

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    It depends on your area of living. I had a bad situation come up myself and now I live in a small "apartment" on someone's land. It's like a little flat that they build for their daughter but she moved away. I pay $400 in rent every month and it's a really beautiful place all to myself with a great landlady. Usually you can tell if it's a scam when you call them, I went through a few that just didn't seem right.
     
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  3. B. Friendly

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    I rented rooms for years through CL. No scams if the owner is living IN the house. I read about scams where people rent vacant houses to multiple people. You gotta know who you are dealing with. You better; you'll be sharing a bathroom with them.

    Primary issues:
    Who cleans the kitchen
    What is the AC set at in summer
    What is the heat set at in winter
    How late is too late for loud music & noise.
    Party people do not mix with non-party people.
    If it's dirty the day you look at it, it's not going to get cleaned unless you do it.
    Don't try to sublet half your room to a girl; they will throw you out.
    If you do hallucinogens like 'shrooms, LSD, etc... go in your room, turn on your blacklight and don't come out for 3 days. Don't talk to anyone for 4 days.
    Don't block your roommates car in by parking on the wrong side of the driveway. It's a large sign that says "I'm an idiot".
    Don't put anything in the refrigerator you don't want someone else to stick their fingers and nose into.
    Some people feel comfortable walking around the house with their junk waving around. Find out about this BEFORE you move in.
    When is rent due.
    If rent is going to be raised, owner must give you time to move out, otherwise you don't have to pay the raised rate.
    All extra work on house gets deducted from rent (mowing, roof repair, etc...) and this is discussed in advance.
    DO NOT THROW MUDDY TENNIS SHOES OR PANTS WITH BALL POINT PEN IN THE WASHER!
    If you have a load of ink-stained laundry from the wash, DO NOT PUT IT IN THE DRYER, DUH.
    The Fart Game is only funny like 5 times. After that you are a disgusting pig.
    If two people are "doing the nasty" in a bedroom, do not knock on the door in the middle of it to ask if it's okay to put their wash into the dryer.
    If the bedroom door is closed it means "Leave me alone". If you ignore this rule, you have a good chance of walking in on someone masturbating.
    Make certain they have high-speed internet and at least basic package cable.
    Make sure to clearly define the damage deposit conditions. One guy tried to claim the $500 damage deposit was non-refundable, because the carpet around my desk was worn. I had to explain "normal use" and "small claims court".
     
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  4. cdenet

    cdenet Registered Member

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    Wow. Sounds like heaven. Now tell me it's on the Mediterranean or something.

    Ha. Good advice. Sounds like you could write a e-book :)

    Needed a good laugh; and I appreciate the advice.
     
  5. JustLearningTheRopes

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    I do not know much about the whole renting a room but I just wanted to say I am very sorry to hear about your situation. I wish you the best of luck.
     
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    The most common type of scam is one where they ask you to send them money via Western Union or some other payment service. Normally landlords meet you in person and take your cash or cheque in person. The scammers almost want money to be sent somewhere.
     
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    Thank you. I truly appreciate the consideration.

    Wow. Thanks. I probably would've seen red flags with that, but it's good to be prepared.

    I appreciate the tip.
     
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  8. jasher

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    Most common scam for past 5+ years has been free credit report rebills mandated prior to leasing
     
  9. B. Friendly

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    I never did a credit report. You either trust each other or you don't. Note you have to trust the "landlord" also. Some people are really extra sleazy and you gotta have the ability to see this quickly. Years of accumulated gook on the baseboards, bad smells in the house all indicate (frankly) mental illness, which goes with the "renting rooms of my house to strangers" situation. You get the best & the worst of people in these situations. One guy waited to tell me, after I agreed to rent the room, that he was gay. Wanted to know if that was "okay". Wanted to know if I was gay too. Wanted to know if I was "seeing anyone". etc.... He crossed the line, and on purpose. Used his room for rent ad as a way to ... well, you know. If it feels creepy, it is.

    In another situation, I know a young woman that rents the pool house behind 2 gay guy's house. They have a high fence, and drug-taking naked poolside gay orgies on weekends. Doesn't bother her a bit. I make a point of inquiring as to her landlord's social schedule now, before I come over to visit.
     
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    Don't worry it is not a big issue, just go to a agent or broker in your area if you want a permanent house. Otherwise, search on the internet for a rental room in your desire are, I bet you will get it.
     
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    The fuck is wrong with you?
    This is posted last year. Stop bumping old thread to increase your post count.
     
  12. Nigel Farage

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    It's hard to scam someone when your are talking to them inside of your house. Here's your process:

    1) Decide a budget. Let's say $450 a month, all bills paid.
    2) Start calling advertisers in your budget range, looking to make an appointment.
    3) Get an appointment, drive to the place, meet with the homeowner that lives there and take a look at what you will get.
    4) Make a decision. If yes, then pay pro-rated rent for the rest of the month, maybe the next month in advance, maybe a damage deposit. All of this is negotiable.
    5) If no, go back to step #2.

    Don't pay money without seeing the place, meeting the homeowner and having a reasonable belief that he actually does live there. No one scams people from their Living Room. Victims could come back and burn the house down.

    Understand that once you move in, you get the same rights as any tenant according to state law, meaning that if they want you out, they would have to evict you. Which means that they are taking more of a risk than you are. Some states it takes 90 days to get rid of a bad/non-paying tenant.

    Get the lease in writing. Even if it's just an informal receipt. In a worst-case scenario and the Police are at the front door looking to pull someone out of the situation (and the house), you want some tangible evidence that you really do live there, and pay rent. Your parole officer will also want this, so it serves a double-purpose.

    In general I would avoid any situation where there is the sharing of utilities. It just opens the door to too much bad feeling and discontent. House fights over who is using all the electricity, etc... A smart homeowner will overbill the tenants and build that cost into the monthly rent at a simple, flat rate. Anything more complicated than that is at least 50% guaranteed to make someone unhappy at some point. You don't need to be in life-crisis in one part of your life, and then have tension, stress and dissension in the new place that you live.

    The primary thing to be looking for here is PEACE and QUIET. No teenagers, no metal heads, no hard-core partiers, no drunks, no druggies, no anyone that doesn't live a quiet & respectful life. Truthfully, all-male or mostly male situations are best. Women, well, let's just say that on more than one occasion I had to hold my urine for a long period of time because the bathrooms were all occupied. Truthfully, I had to learn how to pee in places that I'll not share. Normally people shouldn't have to think this way, and women are the cause of it all.

    Women present other problems as well, but I'll leave those out for the sake of brevity.

    Hints:
    Do housework. Do more than your share. Pick the job that needs most to be done, and make that job yours. For me it was cleaning the kitchen. Wash dishes, wipe-down counter-tops, sweep floor and run a mop over it once a week. You want to be the guy in the house that makes everyone else slightly embarrassed because they do less than you. This is money in the bank, and will earn you an "out" at some point when you have committed some faux pas or other, and people would otherwise be annoyed, but the can't be annoyed, because you are the guy that cleans the kitchen. Or whatever.

    High-speed internet. MUST have. Also keep in mind the possibility that someone else might be hogging all the bandwidth doing P2P filesharing. Don't be that guy, as chronic bandwidth hogs wind up having the whole house hate them, and no one really knows why. You are simply "that asshole", and no one, not even you, will think past that point, except for maybe you will wonder why everyone thinks of you as "that asshole", and I've just given you the answer to that one right there. Don't be that guy.

    Don't leave your food in the fridge to rot. Don't just pile the trash up high; PUSH that shit down, and if it's full, take the shit outside you lazy fuck. Can't BELIEVE how many people think the kitchen garbage can is a fucking "Jenga " game, and whoever knocks it down loses and has to clean it up and take out the trash.

    FLUSH the toilet. Use that scrub brush thing when you poop sticks to the bowl. Use that air freshener stuff. Your mother lied when she said it smells like roses.

    Pay the rent on time. Even early. And if it's going to be late, tell the homeowner as far in advance as possible, so that he can juggle the bills if he has to. And, if he ever even hints that he'd rather you moved on, GET THE FUCK OUT. Rooms for rent are everywhere, and there are hundreds, thousands of them. Never, ever stay in an environment that is not 100% calm and respectful. Remaining in those situations is like toxic poison; and it erodes your ability to do for yourself to the maximum of your ability, at the very time in your life when you need it the most.
     
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    Any comment..!!!
     
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    the guy just got out of a 19 year marriage ... you really think he doesn't want to hang out with a party-hard druggie chick, who's about the same age as his marriage and has metal studs in all the right places !?

    Nigel you usually get it right ... this time ... eeeh
     
  15. TimeToGo

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    Lots of great advice shared here.