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RIP Disavow File with Penguin 4.0

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by HostStage, Oct 4, 2016.

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  1. HostStage

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    Hello,

    It has been out for a few days, you guys are more likely knowing everything which needs to be known about the new Penguin algo.

    Nonetheless, here is a quick recap :

    1) Granular updates - no more hard drop unrecoverable but with a 301 onto a new domain (terrible for business owners) or a Penguin too rare refresh.
    2) Old Penalties being removed (still a few days to be 100% done). It doesn't mean you'll recover your former rankings as there are still a layer looking after this.
    3) Neg SEO taking a hit here too which is a freaking good news. Basically, what Penguin is doing isn't penalizing any longer but just not taking into account the spam you do / did to boost your ranks.
    The Neg SEO loophole was a real thing by the way, I'm glad BHW didn't caution it to avoid turning the web as a rough battlefield.
    4)Consequently disavowing links isn't needed anymore here is an article about it :

    http://searchengineland.com/google-penguin-doesnt-penalize-bad-links-259981

    Quite few things to read through lines here.

    1) Penguin was a success for Google, they managed to reduce the spammy results widely and increase what they always have been after : quality results
    2) They admit they went too hard on it. I have read some very sad stories about suicidal persons wanting to give up on life following a rank drop for tiny businesses
    3) The question is whether now the hard spam will be back and Penguin would just let through, the links Penguin overlooked. (hard to take that conclusion though, there must be something else or a true enhancement on how they define spam links).
     
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  2. rathika

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    useful post reg update
     
  3. uesat

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    This should have been implemented with Penguin 1.0. Good news nonetheless.
     
  4. redarrow

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    You still havent said other stuff known .


    The new update has picked on local seo
    Any spam looking websites or blogs taken down or lower indexed.

    Unique content needs to be posted on blogs not copys of others like news ect.

    Loads of blogs will go down low indexed.

    is rss feeds classed as double posting know?

    crap backlinks know affect page indexing and there position

    And if a website is not mobile friendly will be penilised in the serps postion
     
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    I don't think the hard spam will return. I think people have come to understand that a blind scrapebox blast will kill your MS and obliterate any hard work you have put in. It's also really great news about the effects of negative SEO. The fact that someone can no longer blow your site sky high because you were competition is amazing progress.
     
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    Yeah they really went in on none mobile responsive.
     
  7. iglow

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    i will soon write a study about this update on my blog, been fixing dropped ranking for few sites and got some good results now
     
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    If it was really true what what was in that searchengineland it means we can blast thousands of links again to see what sticks, don't think so
     
  9. SkullGuy

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    AMP seems to be a factor as well. It is being included and tagged in results.
     
  10. mortality123

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    my site have google dance over one month, i know that lot of people had this problem, is anyone still have problem or it is just me?
     
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    Nope, I've been having this problem with one of my sites as well, although I think that it may have been an over optimisation issue. Make sure you're not over optimising your keyword.
     
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    can you tell me what changes have you made to solve this problem?
     
  13. Mxty

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    Significant movements in SERPs today with improvements on previously penalised sites, another note, I don't think it's a call for "RIP Disavow File", every heard of manual actions?
     
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    Good on them for stopping neg SEO from being a thing, that's one of the worst things that has come out of all this google's messing around.