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Rich VS Poor

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by GreenGoblin, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. GreenGoblin

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    I got this from this site here
    http://the305.com/2012/09/10/21-ways-rich-people-think-differently/#.UHhraGCPahk.aolmail (not my site)


    1. Average people think MONEY is the root of all evil. Rich people believe POVERTY is the root of all evil.

    ?The average person has been brainwashed to believe rich people are lucky or dishonest,? Siebold writes.

    That?s why there?s a certain shame that comes along with ?getting rich? in lower-income communities.

    ?The world class knows that while having money doesn?t guarantee happiness, it does make your life easier and more enjoyable.?


    2. Average people think selfishness is a vice. Rich people think selfishness is a virtue.


    ?The rich go out there and try to make themselves happy. They don?t try to pretend to save the world,? Siebold told Business Insider.

    The problem is that middle class people see that as a negative??and it?s keeping them poor, he writes.

    ?If you?re not taking care of you, you?re not in a position to help anyone else. You can?t give what you don?t have.?



    3. Average people have a lottery mentality. Rich people have an action mentality.

    ?While the masses are waiting to pick the right numbers and praying for prosperity, the great ones are solving problems,? Siebold writes.

    ?The hero [middle class people] are waiting for may be God, government, their boss or their spouse. It?s the average person?s level of thinking that breeds this approach to life and living while the clock keeps ticking away.?



    4. Average people think the road to riches is paved with formal education. Rich people believe in acquiring specific knowledge.

    ?Many world-class performers have little formal education, and have amassed their wealth through the acquisition and subsequent sale of specific knowledge,? he writes.

    ?Meanwhile, the masses are convinced that master?s degrees and doctorates are the way to wealth, mostly because they are trapped in the linear line of thought that holds them back from higher levels of consciousness?The wealthy aren?t interested in the means, only the end.?



    5. Average people long for the good old days. Rich people dream of the future.

    ?Self-made millionaires get rich because they?re willing to bet on themselves and project their dreams, goals and ideas into an unknown future,? Siebold writes.

    ?People who believe their best days are behind them rarely get rich, and often struggle with unhappiness and depression.?



    6. Average people see money through the eyes of emotion. Rich people think about money logically.

    ?An ordinarily smart, well-educated and otherwise successful person can be instantly transformed into a fear-based, scarcity driven thinker whose greatest financial aspiration is to retire comfortably,? he writes.

    ?The world class sees money for what it is and what it?s not, through the eyes of logic. The great ones know money is a critical tool that presents options and opportunities.?




    7. Average people earn money doing things they don?t love. Rich people follow their passion.

    ?To the average person, it looks like the rich are working all the time,? Siebold says. ?But one of the smartest strategies of the world class is doing what they love and finding a way to get paid for it.?

    On the other hand, middle class take jobs they don?t enjoy ?because they need the money and they?ve been trained in school and conditioned by society to live in a linear thinking world that equates earning money with physical or mental effort.?



    8. Average people set low expectations so they?re never disappointed. Rich people are up for the challenge.


    ?Psychologists and other mental health experts often advise people to set low expectations for their life to ensure they are not disappointed,? Siebold writes.

    ?No one would ever strike it rich and live their dreams without huge expectations.?



    9. Average people believe you have to DO something to get rich. Rich people believe you have to BE something to get rich.

    ?That?s why people like Donald Trump go from millionaire to nine billion dollars in debt and come back richer than ever,? he writes.

    ?While the masses are fixated on the doing and the immediate results of their actions, the great ones are learning and growing from every experience, whether it?s a success or a failure, knowing their true reward is becoming a human success machine that eventually produces outstanding results.?



    10. Average people believe you need money to make money. Rich people use other people?s money.

    Linear thought might tell people to make money in order to earn more, but Siebold says the rich aren?t afraid to fund their future from other people?s pockets.

    ?Rich people know not being solvent enough to personally afford something is not relevant. The real question is, ?Is this worth buying, investing in, or pursuing??? he writes.


    11. Average people believe the markets are driven by logic and strategy. Rich people know they?re driven by emotion and greed.

    Investing successfully in the stock market isn?t just about a fancy math formula.

    ?The rich know that the primary emotions that drive financial markets are fear and greed, and they factor this into all trades and trends they observe,? Siebold writes.

    ?This knowledge of human nature and its overlapping impact on trading give them strategic advantage in building greater wealth through leverage.?



    12. Average people live beyond their means. Rich people live below theirs.

    ?Here?s how to live below your means and tap into the secret wealthy people have used for centuries: Get rich so you can afford to,? he writes.

    ?The rich live below their means, not because they?re so savvy, but because they make so much money that they can afford to live like royalty while still having a king?s ransom socked away for the future.?



    13. Average people teach their children how to survive. Rich people teach their kids to get rich.

    Rich parents teach their kids from an early age about the world of ?haves? and ?have-nots,? Siebold says. Even he admits many people have argued that he?s supporting the idea of elitism.

    He disagrees.

    ?[People] say parents are teaching their kids to look down on the masses because they?re poor. This isn?t true,? he writes. ?What they?re teaching their kids is to see the world through the eyes of objective reality??the way society really is.?

    If children understand wealth early on, they?ll be more likely to strive for it later in life.



    14. Average people let money stress them out. Rich people find peace of mind in wealth.

    The reason wealthy people earn more wealth is that they?re not afraid to admit that money can solve most problems, Siebold says.

    ?[The middle class] sees money as a never-ending necessary evil that must be endured as part of life. The world class sees money as the great liberator, and with enough of it, they are able to purchase financial peace of mind.?



    15. Average people would rather be entertained than educated. Rich people would rather be educated than entertained.

    While the rich don?t put much stock in furthering wealth through formal education, they appreciate the power of learning long after college is over, Siebold says.

    ?Walk into a wealthy person?s home and one of the first things you?ll see is an extensive library of books they?ve used to educate themselves on how to become more successful,? he writes.

    ?The middle class reads novels, tabloids and entertainment magazines.?



    16. Average people think rich people are snobs. Rich people just want to surround themselves with like-minded people.


    The negative money mentality poisoning the middle class is what keeps the rich hanging out with the rich, he says.

    ?[Rich people] can?t afford the messages of doom and gloom,? he writes. ?This is often misinterpreted by the masses as snobbery.

    Labeling the world class as snobs is another way the middle class finds to feel better bout themselves and their chosen path of mediocrity.?



    17. Average people focus on saving. Rich people focus on earning.


    Siebold theorizes that the wealthy focus on what they?ll gain by taking risks, rather than how to save what they have.

    ?The masses are so focused on clipping coupons and living frugally they miss major opportunities,? he writes.

    ?Even in the midst of a cash flow crisis, the rich reject the nickle and dime thinking of the masses. They are the masters of focusing their mental energy where it belongs: on the big money.?



    18. Average people play it safe with money. Rich people know when to take risks.

    ?Leverage is the watchword of the rich,? Siebold writes.

    ?Every investor loses money on occasion, but the world class knows no matter what happens, they will aways be able to earn more.?



    19. Average people love to be comfortable. Rich people find comfort in uncertainty.

    For the most part, it takes guts to take the risks necessary to make it as a millionaire??a challenge most middle class thinkers aren?t comfortable living with.

    ?Physical, psychological, and emotional comfort is the primary goal of the middle class mindset,? Siebold writes.

    World class thinkers learn early on that becoming a millionaire isn?t easy and the need for comfort can be devastating. They learn to be comfortable while operating in a state of ongoing uncertainty.?



    20. Average people never make the connection between money and health. Rich people know money can save your life.

    While the middle class squabbles over the virtues of Obamacare and their company?s health plan, the super wealthy are enrolled in a super elite ?boutique medical care? association, Siebold says.

    ?They pay a substantial yearly membership fee that guarantees them 24-hour access to a private physician who only serves a small group of members,? he writes.

    ?Some wealthy neighborhoods have implemented this strategy and even require the physician to live in the neighborhood.?




    21. Average people believe they must choose between a great family and being rich. Rich people know you can have it all.

    The idea the wealth must come at the expense of family time is nothing but a ?cop-out?, Siebold says.

    ?The masses have been brainwashed to believe it?s an either/or equation,? he writes. ?The rich know you can have anything you want if you approach the challenge with a mindset rooted in love and abundance.?
     
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  2. Knoxgates

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    Nobody is happy in this world period. People always have complaints with life be it rich or poor.
     
  3. dheer

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    Money doesn't buy happiness but yeah it makes your life easier and enjoyable.
     
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    I disagree with point 10. I think you can also get rich by starting from almost no money, that's how I started (I'm not filthy rich.. yet :D ) but yeah, already seen a few threads like this.. for sure its motivating but its one thing to say/post it, and another to apply it to yourself. Ok, I'm going back to work now..
     
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    Very much dependent on each individual...
     
  6. Black.Star

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    But it still shows a general difference between these two kind of people...

    The average person lets the world control them, the rich (or successful) control the world.

    It´s about seeking this kind of control...
     
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    wow greengoblin such an informative post regarding the mindsets of these two sides of world....
     
  8. sirgold

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    Quite interesting, but probably not for what most would believe. I love these things for the dime a dozen thoughts. Fat good lawl @ this: ?The rich go out there and try to make themselves happy. They don?t try to pretend to save the world,? Siebold told Business Insider. The problem is that middle class people see that as a negative??and it?s keeping them poor, he writes. ?If you?re not taking care of you, you?re not in a position to help anyone else. You can?t give what you don?t have.? If you're selfish you won't have any motivation to help anybody. Period. How to be illogical in 2 sentences, hope he never starts coding ;)
     
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    funny-atheists-quote-God.jpg :p
     
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  10. Black.Star

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    What he means is that alot of "average" people just use the "i am not selfish" as an excuse.
    While alot of rich people realize that to really change something in the world you have to have the money first...
    And they also know that to get to that point where you really have an impact on the world you need to be selfish. That doesnt mean they have selfish motivations, it means that they know that you won´t get rich donating all of your money when you just started a business.

    "The problem is that middle class people see that as a negative" (And thats the whole point)"If you’re not taking care of you, you’re not in a position to help anyone else. You can’t give what you don’t have.” (And here he says what I meant. You need to have something before being able to give. The average people view this longterm business mindset as a negative thing and say it is selfish without looking at the big picture. And the big picture is: money rules the world, if you really want to change something for other people you need money, lots of money. And you can´t get this much money without being selfish in the beginning...)
     
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    Assuming there's some "bigger picture" as a recurring scenario is an arbitrary interpretation: I don't assume there's any big picture to selfishness because there's no rational reason to. As simple as that. ;)
     
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    I think point number 4 is very true. You don't need a degree to start being rich, you just need specific education of some sort to spark an idea.
     
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    true that mopsy made money from his mums council flat with f all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Sugar

     
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    How about a philosopher vs rich people
     
  15. Getwhatchuwant

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    I think this article is flawed in many ways. I know quite a few rich people, and even though I am not "rich" I do pretty well for myself now.
    The rich people I know are not that different between you or I, they have the same fears, concerns and insecurities...the one thing that they have over others is that they are rich!
    You will find that many rich people come from inherited wealth, not as many come from created wealth.

    This quote may be true but again, wealth is the biggest factor in determining success later on. Granted a formal education is not everything but how can someone create or invent something great if they are not trained.

    I have seen stats that show (on average) the BEST performing students from low income families dont even earn what the WORST performing students do that come from wealthy families.

    This is not to say, give up or just quit or blame the rich guy...not at all...this is to say dont worry about the rich, they are rich but really nothing else is that special about many of them aside from the money they have.

    All you need is the desire and determination to never give up. Keep plugging away and one day you may be rich too, just dont forget the ones that are just as smart and creative as you that did not make it.
     
  16. hatemachine

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    Sure it does buy happiness. Want to be free? Money. The paper itself gives you the ability to live your life the way you want it, which makes you fucking happy.
     
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    I thought this was a great post. Every description of the Rich vs Average just reminds me of countless conversations I've had with people when I was growing up and at school etc.. I was literally like 'why the fuck are we doing this(going to school etc)? If we want things in our lives or want to get ahead we just need money so let's go out and get some!' I was running some sort of business ever since I can remember. I think it really just boils down to this one thing: Question Everything.
     
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    Damn,I am poor
     
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    We are the 99%
     
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    The 47%, more than likely. The poor never seem to be without beer, cigarettes, tattoos, and a bunch of illegitimate children. Big screen TV's, state-of-the-art cell phones, jewelry and 30" rims. But no house, no job and no ambition either, other than to blame "rich people". If they learned a measure of self-control, they wouldn't be "poor".
     
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