request help

i dont no were to post this so if its wrong i apologize

i sell a service for proxies i have 2 sales threads in there..
my sign up procedure is for a person to add a request to
that thread for an account - then goto my my forum
to duplicate that same post in my sales thread there this is
because some people use different ids on multiple frums.

when people from bhw pay for access to my site i goto skype
or yahoo for transactions.

tonight i had a request for an account from a member called
Doctor i had no problems supplying the account but as we
were going through the sign up process he didnt seem to
wish to complete 1 part of it which is when a person pays
for my service if they have accounts here and in my forum
can they add both there forum names in the paypal info
transaction.. the guy did not want to do this so i halted the
transaction..

in 3 yrs of selling here ive never had a bad review a negative
or been asked for a refund... so i poined out to the guy i
had gone back to my sales thread and posted this


Old Today, 04:07 PM
Re: fresh daily website proxies fresh+scraped
member doctor
i asked you when u make a payment to
me please add your blackhatworld id +
the id u use in my forum as part of the
payment info for a paypal payment. your
comment on skype

never mind, i dont have time for your nonsese, if you
dont want the business no worries, i am not going to beg u

that is silly .. anyone who pays me adds a smal piece of info in the
payment log something like - its me doctor from bhw aka fred on your
website.. most people who sign up on multiple websites dont use the
same id so its hard to keep track of who payed ..
i dont see that as unreasonable request

anyways the guy puts a long reply and rather than post it u
can read it here
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...sh-daily-website-proxies-fresh-scraped-4.html

i finished of with
anyone who signs up for my service makes 1 post here..
then another post in the same thread in my forum because
most people use multiple ids - i asked u 2-3 times when u
pay please add thoes 2 ides on the payment info slip for
paypay u declined .. so did i

[10:54:30 PM] Michael Swart: so are u going 2 give me your paypal email ?
[10:56:17 PM] tony: payment charge is 80$+6$ transaction fee ... please add in the payment info 2 things .. your id name on blackhatworld and your id name on my forum k
[10:57:29 PM] Michael Swart: can u give the email
[10:58:26 PM] Michael Swart: never mind, i dont have time for your nonsese, if you dont want the business no worries, i am not going to beg u
[10:59:21 PM] tony: i asked a simple question twice .. can u add in the payment info the name u use on blackhatworld and the name u use in my forum..no1 else has a problem with this

its a simple procedure that takes 5 mins sign your name on 2 sales threads
1 here - 1 in my forum ..
add both thoes 2 names in the payment info slip u refused to reply to
that request - transaction stop...
and all my buyers have done this i wont change it for 1 person

then gives me an i trader bad rep and posts this
Doctor Re: fresh daily website proxies fresh+scraped
I just had a thought -- wont do it ofcourse
If 10 people got together sign up for your service split the cost $8 each. All are given a proxy to access your service so it does not appear to be multiple users. That would save allot of money. That could go viral and someone could start reselling.
Just a thought

im like wtf inciting people to rip me off an i trader rep minus
all because i refused a sales because he wouldnt add his
forum id in the paypal transaction - seems un fair

is it fair to get -1 for a sign up procedure 100 buyers
have followed and he wont ? then hint u can screw
the guy buy renting an ip split the cost and share
an account in his forum

i have 2 sales thread with perfect feed back

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...resh-daily-website-proxies-fresh-scraped.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/proxies-sale/175027-scrape-box-daily-updated-proxies.html

i would have contacted apekillape but i havnt seen him
for a few days as he deals with the proxy section
im gutted - annoyed -

With the itrader i was voicing my honest opinion about my experience dealing with the seller. Is that not the purpose of itrader.

I responded in his thread to his post saying the below, s such it was not i who started the shit throwing he started it, i responded in kind by voicing my opinion.


I have no problem with the seller and would appreciate if he could improve the way he deal with his customer.
I will refrain from making any further post in his thread or anywhere else about him and i expect him to do the same.

move on...

there is no move on here you posted
in my sales thread a way that members
could rip me off even a 5 star member
said what u posted is totaly not allowed
here

u wouldnt follow my sign up procedure
i refused to sell an account to you
you posted me a -1 i trader then
posted in my sales thread

I just had a thought -- wont do it ofcourse
If 10 people got together sign up for your service split the cost $8 each. All are given a proxy to access your service so it does not appear to be multiple users. That would save allot of money. That could go viral and someone could start reselling.
Just a thought

thats when a 5 star member jumped in and said what u were doing is
wrong

Yukinari84
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No matter what sort of complaint you have with ProxyGo, mentioning things like this is a great way to get yourself banned.

You are blatantly instigating a way to crash ProxyGo's service.
ProxyGo provides a top-notch service for any serious blackhatter at a great price.
I have am newer member to his service, and he has done nothing but gone out of his way to help me with any questions I have had.
The service is great, the customer service is great, and myself - and I know many others - agree when I say that ProxyGo is a great guy with a kick-ass service.

have reported this to an admin waiting for reply

Doctor's claims are absolute crap. ProxyGo is one of the most stand-up guys around here. His service is exactly as promised, and he goes out of his way to help members - noobs and pros alike.

This guy (Doctor) is a fracking liar. He has posted elsewhere about a "thought" to crash ProxyGo's service. That's unacceptable - we don't blackhat each other, that's blackhat 101.

I PMed proxygo regarding the use of his/her proxies with Xrumer and was told that the proxies are not for use with Xrumer. Now I'm not in any way slamming proxygo but I kinda thought that proxies wuz proxies!!??? Whatup?

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i did send u a pm
Re: Xrumer
hi there sorry ive been a little buisy i dont do xrummer proxies
appologies im sure others do in the proxie sales thread
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so why are u positin on this thread with a problem im having
with another member i see nothing wrong with my pm reply

CyberknightTully said:

I PMed proxygo regarding the use of his/her proxies with Xrumer and was told that the proxies are not for use with Xrumer. Now I'm not in any way slamming proxygo but I kinda thought that proxies wuz proxies!!??? Whatup?

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3 posts? 3 fracking posts and you want to jump in on this? Do yourself a favor and just walk away....

proxygo said:

different proxies have different uses the ones i have
dont work in xrummer and thats the pm reply i sent

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Yes indeed, that is the reply that you sent and no argument there and I repeat that I am not slamming you! Are your proxies only good for mailing? I have a very strong interest on gaining access to proxies but have some difficulty understanding why a given proxy will not work for a given thing. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Maybe I've missed something and if so, I apologize for possibly causing an issue.

gregstereo said:

3 posts? 3 fracking posts and you want to jump in on this? Do yourself a favor and just walk away....

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Please! I am not "jumping" on anything; I am only asking questions and am in NO WAY slamming proxgo's service!

a shit list post is a post for a problem between 2 members
why are u here this is between me and the member called
DOCTOR

why is my pm to saying i dont sell proxies for xrummer
leading you to post on this thread

proxygo said:

a shit list post is a post for a problem between 2 members
why are u here this is between me and the member called
DOCTOR

why is my pm to saying i dont sell proxies for xrummer
leading you to post on this thread

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The thread was kind of there on the "Recent Posts" page or turned up in a wesite search for "Proxies" (I forget which!) and I failed to see that there was a real argument going on.

OK, please give it a break and I apologize for even asking the question although I think the question is valid and it should be noted that the question has not been answered. I actully thought that you had a good and reliable service and was only trying to help you out. I thought by asking the question you could help clear up the matter; a mistake which I will not make again.

At the risk of being percieved as some kind of jerk and unless I've missed something (And may well have!), just what is it that you sell proxies for?

the arguement
is that you dont belong on this thread
as your post has nothing to do with it..

the arguement is there for all to read

-1 i trader rep + telling memebers to screw
my service over all because i wont sell to
this guy is an arguement ...

proxygo said:

the arguement
is that you dont belong on this thread
as your post has nothing to do with it..

the arguement is there for all to read

-1 i trader rep + telling memebers to screw
my service over all because i wont sell to
this guy is an arguement ...

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Oh, well, fiddly-frickin'-dee! I told you how I found the thread so if I ask the question on the proxy threads will you answer?

problem solved - a ranking admin/mod
has removed his posts from my thread
and left him a warning...
im out of this

doctor
for me this will be over when the -1 i trader rep u gave me is gone
this can be easily resolved . you asked to buy service - i was happy
to provide it . when i asked you to add your blachatwolrd id in the paypal
info you declined - all my buyers add there bhw name in the paypal info slip.

because i then refused to sell to you. you then posted in my sales thread
how members could if they wanted to scam me and gave me a -1 i trader.
i contacted apekillape who removed your posts from my sales thread and
gave you a warning .

tonight im told by apekillape
Doctor requested that you remove the shitlist thread.

i wont even entertain that untill your -1 is removed from
my i-trader . i have 2 sales threads with perfect feedback
and a +11 i trader ..

yours was the only 1 to be awquard .. get the -1 removed
then if they wanna remove this thread fine.
let me no so i can let ape no.

i had to acknowledge your -1 reply and reply to your
itrader with the same . i had the right to reply so i took
it - sorry it double posted that was a mistake ive never
used i-trader reply b4

Doctor said:

With the itrader i was voicing my honest opinion about my experience dealing with the seller. Is that not the purpose of itrader.

I responded in his thread to his post saying the below, s such it was not i who started the shit throwing he started it, i responded in kind by voicing my opinion.

Code:

member doctor
i asked you when u make a payment to
me please add your blackhatworld id +
the id u use in my forum as part of the 
payment info for a paypal payment. your
comment on skype

never mind, i dont have time for your nonsese, if you
dont want the business no worries, i am not going to beg u

that is silly .. anyone who pays me adds a smal piece of info in the
payment log something like - its me doctor from bhw aka fred on your
website.. most people who sign up on multiple websites dont use the
same id so its hard to keep track of who payed ..
i dont see that as unreasonable request

I have no problem with the seller and would appreciate if he could improve the way he deal with his customer.
I will refrain from making any further post in his thread or anywhere else about him and i expect him to do the same.

move on...

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You're not alone doctor. I've also experienced proxygos horrible costumer service and attitude. The fact that he made a shit list thread about you because you left a -1 itrader shows what I mean....itrader is there for a reason and you should not try to force people to like your service, proxygo.

GimmeMoney said:

You're not alone doctor. I've also experienced proxygos horrible costumer service and attitude. The fact that he made a shit list thread about you because you left a -1 itrader shows what I mean....itrader is there for a reason and you should not try to force people to like your service, proxygo.

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Erm....ProxyGo is not trying to force anyone to like his service...but neither you nor Doctor have ever actually used his service. Neither of you seem to play well with others.

And before you hop on the Doctor bandwagon, you really should be aware of exactly what the guy did in ProxyGo's sales thread. He was warned about it and was lucky not to have gotten a temp ban for what he did. You know all about that GimmeMoney?

gregstereo said:

Erm....ProxyGo is not trying to force anyone to like his service...but neither you nor Doctor have ever actually used his service. Neither of you seem to play well with others.

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Wrong. I have experienced his costumer service which is what I and doctor are complaining about. You're confusing his actual membership service with his costumer service, this would not happen had you just taken the time to read the posts properly before replying.

gregstereo said:

And before you hop on the Doctor bandwagon, you really should be aware of exactly what the guy did in ProxyGo's sales thread. He was warned about it and was lucky not to have gotten a temp ban for what he did. You know all about that GimmeMoney?

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So just because I agree with what he said in this thread, I also agree with everything he does in life? What kind of kindergarten logic is that?
I don't know what he said and I have no idea why you brought that up in the first place.

I'm on no ones bandwagon, you however are on proxygos bandwagon. Everytime someone has anything negative to say about him your name pops up defending him.....what a coincidence.

well gimee i had a chat with a mod on bhw and this
is what he had to say about me refusing to sell to
a problem buyer

(3/17/2010 11:58:55 AM): There's no rule against refusing service to people. You should be fine

for the last time this refers to member Doctor
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i had no problem providing him an account
in fact everything was going smoothly until i asked him, can you please
add your blackhatworld forum id in the pay pal transaction - at this point
he didn't want to. there is a good reason why i have buyers add there forum
id in a payment. because if they don't and i get the dreaded email from paypal
they didn't authorize the payment, without there id in the payment transaction
i have no way to no who it is to ban from my forum.
why when over 60 buyers can do this, he refused . at that point i refused his
account request. he then went into my sales thread advising members how they
could scam my service - a fact you keep over looking gimeee -
and his scam post comments were deleted from my thread by the mod here
[apekillape] and doctor was given a warning for his posts. are u saying that
60-80 positive feedbacks +13 itrader and a moderator were all wrong about
Doctor ? then your the only one who is correct the odds are against you.

then we have you gimmee
====================
you applied for an account last saturday with my forum
now i dont work weekends as a 30hr mon/fri dealing with
people such as u is enough for me. just because i dont do
accounts on weekends doesnt mean i dont check my pms
here and if i have a free 5 minutes i will reply to a buyer as
i did to you..i asked you to sign my sales thread in bhw
and sign my sales thread in my own forum which you did
i also advised i dont do accounts on weekends and said
wait till Monday and i will hook you up. at which point
you threw your toys out the pram and went crying into
my thread, something about if i can answer your pm
i should setup your account. no i replied out of curtosy
just to let you no i was aware of your account request
and would deal with it monday. you were so impatient
to wait 1 day so i refused your account. end of

and just like the moderator said
(3/17/2010 11:58:55 AM): There's no rule against refusing service to people. You should be fine

and anyone who wishes to read my sales reviews is welcome to and draw
a conclusion of there own

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...resh-daily-website-proxies-fresh-scraped.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/proxies-sale/175027-scrape-box-daily-updated-proxies.html

or my itrader page here

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/itrader.php?u=21623

proxygo said:

you were so impatient
to wait 1 day so i refused your account. end of

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Now you're just lying. I'm the one who told you I wasn't interested in your service and here's the proof:

proxygo said:

what part of weekends i dont
work wasnt explained ...

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GimmeMoney said:

Ok....
I'm no longer interested

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proxygo said:

fine by me there's a post clearly listed in my forum i dont
work weekends..but if how ever u believe spending time
with my family after working this job mo/fri is less important
to sign u up because u cant wait 12 hrs then explain it to me.

thankfully all my other customers understand i seller needs
to take time of , something you believe shouldn't apply if they
get a pm from you.

there's a term which describes you [ no patients ]
if u cant wait 12 hrs till Monday i am glad i didn't
peruse this transaction because if you are this awkward
now - i cant imagine how u would be at the first sign
of a problem.

have a nice day

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Why do you feel like you have to make up lies when you're losing an argument? Again, accept that your customer service is awful and learn to treat your customer with more respect.