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Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by YodaX, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. YodaX

    YodaX Registered Member

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    I keep reading that placing your backlinks on sites that are related to your site (same type of content that is) is beneficial to how your keywords will rank. I tend to build my backlinks indiscriminately and get good results. So is this 'rule' of placing your backlinks on related sites complete BS or is there something to it? Has anyone tested this variable?
     
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    complete BS, tested on around 60 sites and it really is complete BS
     
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  3. Dr.NeK

    Dr.NeK Newbie

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    Getting backlinks from related sites to your niche is better than getting random backlinks, but the difference is not HUGE.
     
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    BS mean?
     
  5. cokol

    cokol Regular Member

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    BS means Bull $hit.

    However I think it is true. If you have lets say 100 backlinks on sites that are related to you niche it is much better then 100 backlinks on random websites.
     
  6. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Youre just guessing. Doesn't matter in my experience whether they're related or not.
     
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    I think its easier to have someone stay on your page when they do click on your backlink on related sites vs unrelated ones
     
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    If this is true, then I do not have to create articles based on my niche. I just insert my link below the article with my keyword as anchor text.
     
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    alex-19841 Regular Member

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    I have not seen significant difference ether, related content on the page will help if you are submitting a link to your site without keyword in anchor text, but just your URL as anchor text, that way text around your link will facilitate google's assumption of possible keywords that your site is about that may work as anchor text.
     
  10. nikao

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    your argumentation just doesn't make sense...

    the fact that a certain way of backlinking works, doesn't mean another won't work or is worse or better ...
     
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    No..your not understanding what is being said. :)
    IF? non contextual article backlinks work as well as contextual article backlinks..then it nullifies the argument that articles must be in the same niche for backlink strength or whatever.
     
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    it might not be as relevant as people make out now - but the future is a very long time
     
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    Think of it this way. Links in related sites add to your sites authority. Same as if Obama backs Biden. That said links in non related sites have value as well. It all boils down to diversification.

    If you want to build out a good authority site then related links are a must. At least this strategy has worked well for me.
     
  14. Pete Thong

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    As you are speaking about articles the sites where you will post them are article directories or web 2.0 blogs - and these sites will definetly have nothing to do with you niche since they are article directories or web 2.0 blogs... So at least the article you post there which contains your llink should be an on topic article!

    And what works fine for me is: If you have your website in a different language than english and you submit an english article to some of the article directories or blogs just use the english translation from google translator as keyword for the anchor text - you will see the result will be good!
     
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    I think it's BS
     
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    Well im assuming that google has ways to help you if you're build relevent links, such as what's in the url compared to the link you are posting etc. ?
     
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    No, Nikao is exactly right, and you don't understand what he said. The argument isn't that links have to be made on related pages. We already know that links can be placed on irrelevant pages surrounded by irrelevant content, and they will still count as a positive factor in Googles algorithm. That isn't the question.

    The question is whether there is a benefit of placing your link on a page surrounded by relevant content, vs placing it on a page surrounded by irrelevant content. Then the next question is, if so, is it a big enough benefit to outweigh the effort of actually placing the link on a page surrounded by relevant content.

    As Nikao said, just because you CAN rank a site using link from irrelevant pages, doesn't mean that it wouldn't be better to use links from relevant pages. They might both work, and links from irrelevant pages might be enough for certain niches, but the question remains: are links from irrelevant and relevant pages treated the same/similar.

    Only Google can answer 100% sure. We could test it doing side by side comparisons, but you would need hundreds of sites to come to a reasonable conclusion. The probable answer is that Google does give the links more value, so if you find yourself unable to get the ranks you want from using links on irrelevant pages, try to get more links from relevant pages.
     
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    Have never seen detailed data either way

    However

    I find that it's easier to get back links to stick on related pages
    I have heard of people who do manual reviews, wheeee part of the task is to take a look at back links pointing to a site and see if they were relvant. The concern was more about li is pointing from adult / gambling themes to non related content, however still relevant.

    Sent from mobile so excuse bad spelling
     
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    In my opinion.
    The Actual Pr links works best.
    The blogroll links are second best.
    Contextual blogpost and contextual wiki links are good when link pushing is done.

    The basic thing is to place link on Actual PR page. The blogroll link give 100s-1000s of backlinks in one go thats why they are good. I had a good ranked site with PR2 amd with 100s of pages. I hosted 4-5 my friends links and his site were on page 3 for keywords. when I removed blogroll backlinks from my site, his sites moved from page 3 to page 5-6.

    In simple words get that backlink which it self have backlinks.
     
  20. Techxan

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    It has been my experience that your link will pass more juice with related links than not.

    I say that because most of my links are high authority related links, and I have PR5 site with less than 2000 total links, in the computer repair niche. I kknow of plenty sites that have thousands of links more and are lower PR.

    In addition to PR links pass the originating site's authority, or a portion of it down the link.

    A PR 1 page on the state of Texas web site would pass a lot of link juice, but a PR 1 page on the White House web site will pass a lot more down the link.

    The authority of a site, while complex, is often of more value than the page rank of the originating page. If you had a choice of a PR5 link from my computer repair site, or a PR 2 link from Microsoft Support, which would you choose? Which one do you think would benefit your site the most to have a link from?