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Related forums profile backlinks will help me for sEO?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by shenski, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. shenski

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    Hello,

    yestarday i start make profile account in related forums in my niche and i write my website in profiles , but not in signature only profile.. is this good ? and can help me for seo.. increase ranking and up authority?

    i can blast him with GSA ?? this is good options?
     
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    No. These links are purely for diversity.
     
  3. kevin19x

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    but if you add anchor link in signature it will affect in your seo.
     
  4. seoboyz01

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    Profile links help you gain some domain authority.
    Don't put inner page link in profile. Create links to your main website url.

    By increasing the DA of the site, all of your pages will perform well on Google.
     
  5. Umaro

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    Any more detail behind this? When I've done manual backlink building on forums, blogs, comments, I feel an inner page with relevant content makes way more sense. One it's less likely to get removed/moderated as it's actually valuable to the discussion. It fits and could give that link/site traffic. A main page seems really off and would totally look like a plug.
     
  6. THUNDERELVI

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    You are right, it will ruin your seo not just affect it. Profile/Signature links from forums are worthless - add in an anchor text and you are basically saying to Google: "hey, I am building shitty links in order to manipulate serp-s for XX keyword" and in turn, Google will politely answer you back with de-ranking or de-indexing depending on how stupid you are. Blasting 1k+ forum links with anchor text to your site is retarded; blasting a ton of links with no anchor text is still very stupid; putting just a few links in the most trafficked and high authoritative forums in your niche will do you no harm, but won't do you much good either (if any at all).

    DA has absolutely nothing to do with how well a page performs in Google.

    The OP asked for profile and signature links only - sharing links within threads to your site actually HELPS a shit ton with SEO and if the forum is quite big and well-known (like BHW for example), the thread will even start ranking on its own for related keywords. These kind of links are not shitty anymore, because they are contextual now and actually offer value to the reader. They are still worth less than PBN-s or guest posts for example, but they are good to have for diversity and most importantly traffic. The only problem is if you are not creating any value for the community, your thread will be deleted by moderators very fast and your link won't stay alive, which is why I said these links are not shitty, because they take effort to be created.
     
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  7. seoboyz01

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    Just think about forum profile links:-

    When you create an account on the forum, you want to participate in the discussion. And share your views, learn from others etc.
    Forum sites have an option in the profile where you can add your social accounts, website url. Why?

    Because you can establish contacts with other forum members. You let them connect with you, follow you, and visit your blog to know more about you.This way everything will look natural to the forum admin and Google. And Google wants bloggers to be more social, There is no harm promoting your site and contents on social sites, community pages. Till you are not spamming those sites. If you add value to any site, Google will love your link.

    Now think, Any normal person who joins a forum naturally to participate in the discussions, he will add his home page to the profile, Not the inner page,
    That;s what makes the difference between a spammer and a natural account holder. Google is very smart to figure out your intentions.

    Focus on promoting your domain name. Linking to the domain name (Home page) will increase the trust for over all site.
    You don't need links to every inner page to rank. Nowadays, Google considers, How trust worthy the domain is before ranking its pages.

    That's why top sites get ranked for every post they make. Because they already have gained the trust.

    Apology for any grammatical mistake.
     
  8. seoboyz01

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    DA has absolutely nothing to do with how well a page performs in Google.

    I agree DA is just a third party metrics.

    But, Google uses Domain trust value to rank its pages.
    A domain which has high trust value will get higher rankings for its pages than a domain which is new and have lesser trust.
    So for profile link building, it's better to put homepage links.
     
  9. Umaro

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    Okay, cool. This is make me pretty happy because that's the thing it does takes quite a bit of effort to find and write. My current strategy is all manual and typically is searching google for "keyword" + "comments" or "comment" or "forum" or "resources" etc. Then I create an account (my favorite are ones where you just need email to post). Look through the site to either find the main landing page or relevant blog post that I have written, write a real paragraph with insight (or even insights that come from the article) and embed it with ahref "this is going on." I try to make the anchor text pretty broad and normal and not worry about hyper optimization of anchor text.

    Even still might get removed but some stick depending on the moderator of the site.
     
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  10. patlang

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    Google cannot distinguish between profile link, directory, citation etc etc. They just look at the source of the backlink (domain, internal linking, external linking, content etc) so there will be no difference if profile has a link to homepage or inner page.

    The problem with profile links is that they are not interlinked and therefore has really little value.

    So at the end of the day it is not about type of a backlink. It is about the source of the backlink. Forum link can also be a good one if the domain is good.
     
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    It is pretty easy to figure out of someone has only profile links from a forum, but I am not really sure if Google has done something about it. There are something like 10-20 forum CMS that probably cover 80% of all available forums worldwide.
     
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    Every person has a different understanding about backlinks.
    So, You try it and Analyze it.
     
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    Yes, but the situation changes when you suddenly have 1k+ profile links from forums - no average person would do that. Remember what Google is saying? You need to get links naturally. That means other webmasters/people will visit your website, find it so amazing and start sharing it everywhere. You can fool Google into thinking some X webmaster from XYZ.com linked to your site because he finds it awesome when in reality XYZ.com is owned by you and it's just part of a PBN. Same thing with guest posts and editorial links - you pay writers/bloggers/editors/webmasters money and they link out to you in a post that Google finds natural. In both cases, if you build 1k+ links, you won't get penalized, in fact you will rank for most keywords in your niche. But, build 1k+ profile links and your website won't budge - they won't do shit. So, the question is, why isn't it natural for Google to start getting so many links from forum profiles?

    It's because those links have no value at all, and "value" in Google's eyes is text & images. Forum links are nothing more than just a link and an anchor text - no other text surrounding the link, therefore not giving any context to why the hell the link exists there in the first place. Relevance makes the difference between a good link and a great link. Forum links have NO relevance at all.

    Also, in a forum, you add value to the community by posting a thread and embedding the link there, participating in a discussion, that IS what Google wants to see. That adds relevance to the link. Sure, profile links let you be social and all that shit. None of that matters to Google's algorithm - if you are relevant you will rank, if you are not, you WON'T. You can be the most social guy in the world and while there might not be any harm in promoting your site like you say, it won't do you any good either for SEO.

    Google uses 200+ ranking factors to rank a page, not just domain trust. What you said is terribly false LOL and has such a high impact on the SERP-s that it WILL never get implemented by Google. If what you say is true, then new sites would never rank - imagine a search engine with that scenario...

    I wrote an algorithm to distinguish between profile links, directory links, citations, web 2.0 blogs, authority sites, editorial sites, etc... GSA, as a software, in its core, works by recognizing the platforms it posts links to. So, you are assuming Google, a billion dollar company, cannot do that? Made my day really! And it's not just the source of a backlink, relevance plays a pretty big role too - it's relevance first, power second. Otherwise, you can rank a blank page for anything you want in the title. If you are Wikipedia, maybe you can do that. A smaller guy? Don't think so...
     
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    now dont be so hard now..

    As I like to do stupid shit to sites that dont rank and might nevr will, I blasted one with 1k forum "whatsoever", posts, profiles and shit.
    what happend? nothing. guess why? aint used commercial anchors.
    oh, did I wait more than the usual BHW 24h (my site does not rank?) . yes. that case is now 2 months done and no # decline..
    so in 99% that case NOTHING will happen on # if you spam the heck your site with url/domain.
    would I do it my money sites? no way.

    however, youcan get nice ref traffic if you post to right spots.

    I do "non spammy forum shit" and it brings me nice ref-traffic and a few leads.
     
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    omg.
    you really learn by heart that "google loves anal sex" bullshit from usual seotardblogs..
     
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    Exactly what I said a few more posts above ;) Forum links are worthless in the sense that you waste time building them, because they won't help. And I use forums mostly for traffic, not SEO, it just happens that it helps in SEO as well because the link is relevant and the thread might rank for related keywords if it's a big forum. So, it's a win-win for every side if you do it this way, including Google.
     
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    Haha, That;s kinda funny.

    I don't trust those blogs until I observe the facts.
    And I don't post copied from SEO blogs. Those are my personal observations.
     
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    If the link is in a forum post and is contextual to your site and the subject of the link you will get some juice from it and help your backlink profile as mentioned here ... the problem people make is they do way to many of these which muddies your profile back link and they put this in their signature, etc thinking that helps. If you comment with your signature that has little value. If you can put your website into the forum and it is applicable and it is selected by members and they click through to your site that helps it have more value. Remember these are nofollow so they have to get some traffic to have value which helps. Another problem people have is they forget these pages get less and less traffic and less and less click throughs so their value decreases over time. My take away on forum posting is do something in your industry and post a lot get trusted and then market yourself a bit in that forum. Instead of watching TV talk on a forum like we are doing now ... other then that forum spam is dead and comments on an article are really dead unless it is your article.