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Regarding the 'mobile method'

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by lsmstd, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. lsmstd

    lsmstd Regular Member

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    Ok, I understand how to build the HTTP requests, but for the unix time and current video time variables to be accurate do I need to send the requests at the same time interval as the real ones? For a 5 min video about 10 requests are sent to s.youtube, so 1 view with seo value would need 5 minutes and all 10 requests to be sent or just one request with the et and st values of the final one?

    I know that RTSP botting works again and it needs just one request, no et and st parameter used, I've sent 10k views last night and they appeared today but I don't see any improvements in rankings.

    I hope somebody will give some advice, thanks guys.
     
  2. izSpK

    izSpK BANNED BANNED

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    I might release a example of how I calculate the X requests needed to watch the "entire video". It's pretty easy actually, you just need to look how many requests it sends and emulate it. For example if len (length of video in seconds) is around 60, you can send a request for 5, 10, 29, 50 and 60. That's 5 requests.

    Nothing until part 2 of my thread though.
     
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    the known Power Member Premium Member

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  4. KillerHeck

    KillerHeck Regular Member

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    One request to the s.youtube would be sufficient to count as a view & to gain SEO value. However if you send more with the right et & st values, the attention span of your video improves and you get a bit higher SEO ranking.

    One tip, you can send the s.youtube in one burst so you don't need to send the 10 requests spread over 5 minutes!
     
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  5. 39ster

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    Download a firefox plugin called "HttpFox". Use this to capture the packets sent to s.youtube.com. It has the date/time of when the packets are sent so you can figure this stuff out yourself very easily. (the first couple of s.youtube.com requests are sent in a 10 second interval, then it changes to every 30 or 60 seconds...cant remember)
     
  6. PigFish

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    I know it may be stupid, but i have also noticed the rtsp bots work again, would i be able to add &referrer=http%3A%2F%2Ffacebook.com%2F to the end so they don't appear as mobile views?
     
  7. lsmstd

    lsmstd Regular Member

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    Good question, tried that with magicviews but the & part is stripped somehow.
     
  8. izSpK

    izSpK BANNED BANNED

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    No... please no. RTSP != HTTP ffs.
     
  9. bladimir0040

    bladimir0040 Newbie

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    I have been working on something and i think its almost ready. just need some more test and share it with you guys;)
     
  10. swagcentral

    swagcentral Newbie

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    Does magic views work again? because I tried it just now don't have any luck at all :(
     
  11. bladimir0040

    bladimir0040 Newbie

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    as far as i know it is not working..:(
     
  12. lsmstd

    lsmstd Regular Member

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    How these view bots from march work? Do they scrape the rtsp link and send a request to it, no s.youtube requests are used? Do you plan to release the source code of an old bot for research and karma? :D

     
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    lsmstd Regular Member

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    MagicViews Unlimited 2 - this works, spk also said that his bot from march is working again.

     
  14. KillerHeck

    KillerHeck Regular Member

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    Yes, all RTSP bots are working again for about 3 weeks or so, however there are 2 reasons NOT to use them:

    1) These views aren't count by yt to get a spot in the charts
    2) These views don't give you any YT SEO value and actually seems to do only damage to your SEO

    If you just want inflated views that just harm your video seo, then by all means use them :)
     
  15. tb303

    tb303 Power Member

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    thanks for your (now deleted) post yesterday izspk. gave me a day of messing around in c# which i really enjoyed :) The waiting now to see if the views will show up as expected is killing me. Still a little confused with calculating the time params for the video so heres to part 2 :beer:
     
  16. izSpK

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    It's right here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/youtube/447873-spks-view-methods-part-1-mobile-method-disguising-facebook-twitter.html

    Let me know how the views work out for you, I'm curious :)
     
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    jaredxme BANNED BANNED

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    SO i am confused with this new method do we only have to enter 1 s.youtube or multiple ones for it
     
  18. 39ster

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    You will need to send multiple if you want to simulate a user who is watching it for more than 10 seconds. The new YT algorithm takes into account how long people spend watching the video (as opposed to watching it for a couple of seconds then closing it straight away...think rick rolled)
     
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    jaredxme BANNED BANNED

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    Can it be the same code or do i have to get a different one each time?
     
  20. 39ster

    39ster Junior Member

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    You have to change the et, st, and rt values.

    I made this not long ago (for normal views, not mobile, but it's still the same):

    Code:
    1st request
    rt        1.489
    et        0.058
    st        0.058
    bt        0.629
    lact    714
    
    2nd request
    rt        11.582
    et        10.036
    st        0
    bt        10.013
    lact    10807
    
    3rd request
    rt        21.572
    et        20.038
    st        10.036
    bt        8.603
    lact    20796
    
    4th request
    rt        31.574
    et        30.038
    st        20.038
    bt        10.900
    lact    30797
    It's pretty easy to figure out what's going on. Each request is made at a 10 second interval.
     
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