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Regarding the google sandbox

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by TheGateKeeper, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. TheGateKeeper

    TheGateKeeper Regular Member

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    I was doing some research on the google sandbox, and found:

    Webmasters and SEOs trying to achieve a strong rank in Google want to understand the Google Sandbox. What is it? Does it really exist? Is there a way to avoid it entirely? Wayne Hurlbert takes you through most of what you ever wanted to know about the Sandbox, but didn't know who to ask.What is the Google Sandbox?
    The Google Sandbox is an alleged filter placed on new websites. The result is that a site does not receive good rankings for its most important keywords and keyword phrases. Even with good content, abundant incoming links and strong Google PageRank, a site is still adversely affected by the Sandbox effect. The Sandbox acts as a de facto probation for sites, possibly to discourage spam sites from rising quickly, getting banned, and repeating the process.
    How would you describe the Google Sandbox in one sentence?

    The Google Sandbox is very similar to a new website being placed on probation, and kept lower than expected in searches, prior to being given full value for its incoming links and content.
    Why did Google institute a Sandbox?

    It is thought that the reason Google created the Sandbox new site filter was to stop spam related sites from adding numerous purchased links--and ranking highly for their keywords from the date of launch. Since Google apparently considers a high number of links pointing to a site from the beginning to be rather suspicious, the links are not considered to be natural. Another possibility is spam sites would use various tactics to rise to the top of the search results, and gain heavy sales prior to being banned for being in violation of Google's Terms of Service; and then repeating the process continually. As a result, new sites are put into a form of probation, usually referred to as the Google Sandbox.







    So basically, all new sites are put into a sort of filter, whereby any links you create for this site will have reduced efficiency? How long after this fades out?

    Also, is it true that new sites without any backlinks actually get a boost to their SERP?

    I'm so confused lol, maybe some of the gurus here can clear it up for me
     
  2. assphuck

    assphuck Senior Member

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    There is no such thing as the sandbox IMO. What there is are algorithmic red flags. Have a new site, blast it with forum profile links, then ping those links and create RSS feeds for them and you can see how unnatural this looks.

    Yup, new sites and pages get a short boost in the serps. Fresh content rises up and falls rather quickly.
     
  3. pompano

    pompano Power Member

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    People focus too much on the sandbox... Gets boring seeing these threads everyday
     
  4. b1step-ahead

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    F the Box - new tag line for 2012
     
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  5. TheGateKeeper

    TheGateKeeper Regular Member

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    It's not that I focus too much for it, but I want to make sure that what I do doesn't hurt my website.
     
  6. Blue Label

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    Use this rule: "If it was a real website. How would it be linked to?". SEO takes time if its a keyword with some competition.
     
  7. assphuck

    assphuck Senior Member

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    I'll second that!
     
  8. aldis

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    as long as you don't MASSIVELY blast a brand new website it should be fine. by massively I mean more than 100k backlinks a week.
     
  9. TheGateKeeper

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    Ha, I never went over 10k... who would realistically build 100k backlinks anyway? Unless they are all junk Scrapebox links.
     
  10. aldis

    aldis Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    believe me, with scrapebox is very easy to reach that amount even in one day if you know how to correctly use the program ;)
     
  11. zmoney

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    1 month old site of mine sandboxed :( Built a total of 50 links over those 3 weeks or so.
    Couple articles, couple blog comments, maybe 5 forum profiles, some social bookmarking. Took it really light to avoid any filter.
    Bam. Still indexed, but doesn't show up in any searches for the main keywords. Some of the "categories" actually show up for search, but the main keywords etc nothing.

    Categories are ranked 50-100 spot.
    Actual keyword pages are 200-400 spot.

    GWT only showing 28 links to the site.

    I'd LIKE to think its the dance, but never seen a site dance from top 20 to 400

    Time to play the waiting game. Kind of funny, if these were all longtails, I doubt it would happen. Usually when I make a longtail site I'm fine..but this time, I tried some low comp shorter keywords...
    I have an EMD too and that is nowhere to be found. During honeymoon it was ranked 3rd for about 1 week.

    Oh well, NEXT.... It's kind of expected of a new site anyhow.. but still frustrating :)
     
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  12. loverichie

    loverichie Junior Member

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    Well, Google Sandbox is very similar to a new website being placed on probation, and kept lower than expected in searches.
     
  13. deepak_kanojia

    deepak_kanojia Newbie

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    Google doesn't give any guidelines to webmasters, even i think Google doesn't have any guidelines about websites sandbox, ranking, about Panda update. That's why Google loosing there popularity and other search engines like Bing, Blekko, and yahoo etc. Gives much better results to end user's or webmasters they now going much popular. I am also using Blekko it's a spam free search engine and gives me far better results compare to Google.
     
  14. MKelly

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    For me I wouldn't call it the sandbox, I'd call it an 'aging delay'.

    Basically, if you have a new site that is naturally written and not "keyword rich", this site should be fine.

    The filter or 'aging delay' seems to kick in when a site is targeted towards "money keywords", once your site the right combination of trust and authority (this by nature takes time) you should fall out of the filter.

    This does not mean sitting around doing nothing while you're waiting for your site to age, to gain trust and authority you must work on said website, (create content, network, create a social buzz e.t.c.)
     
  15. kbos2hm

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    I got put in the sandbox but my faulyt doesnt bother me i dont rally care aboutpage rank either thats a waste too this year i am concentrating on sales and making sales it will take probably about half a year to get out.