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Redirection Ranking Drop

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by xjapan, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. xjapan

    xjapan Power Member

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    I have a blog website that rank homepage on g first page, after I moved the domain, my homepage gone, now ranking blog post not homepage at g fifth page for the same keyword. What goes wrong? It has been more than a week
     
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    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Gotta 301 redirect, make sure it's not 302.

    If the target domain is brand new it'll take a few months to get your rankings back.
     
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  3. xjapan

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    yes it's 301 from htaccess, few months? that's too long
     
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    Brand new domain?

    You can expect a month to a few months, yes.

    If it's 100% white hat, create a webmaster tools profile for it and add sitemaps, etc, and if possible verify the previous property and indicate a address change.

    That's all you can do to speed it up.

    Unless of course the new site goes viral on social media and you get it famous within 24 hours, that also works.
     
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  5. xjapan

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    Yes

    It's a grey hat site but I would give it a try, did according to what you have suggested, thanks for your help

    https://postimg.org/image/60kwtrp4d/
     
  6. Lauriat

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    Is that something new? I have not done any redirects for a while, but i remember it always took few days to a couple weeks for rankings to transfer.
     
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    Honestly, no, and it depends on a number of factors too. Age of the redirected site, what you're pushing towards the redirect, etc.
     
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    The old rankings will redirect to the new site, so you don't immediately lose the traffic, but there's a period in between when Google has detected that all your pages 301 and when it begins to show the new domain. It might show the old domain for months.
     
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    If it's a gray hat you'd probably rather not use your main G account. Anyway good luck, hope it works.
     
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    This could be the reason why you lost your ranking:

    "...John Mueller of Google went on record that when you do 301 redirects of many or all of your old internal pages to your home page, Google will treat those redirects as soft 404s. Which means, essentially, Google will ignore those redirects, not pass the PageRank and signals from the old pages to the new page."

    https://www.seroundtable.com/301-pages-home-soft-404-22811.html
     
  11. xjapan

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    Thanks for the reminder, I didnt use my main account for any blackhat activities, I knew the rule is one account for one wmt
     
  12. xjapan

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    I did not redirect internal pages to homepage, I moved from old domain to new domain without modifying the structures, the homepage have blog posts where I rank for many keywords
     
  13. myfa1z

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    i also see drop after penguin 4, i redirect old page to new domain, before penguin 4 its has 5 rank, after update my website is under 10 page
     
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    What I have done in the past and worked great:

    - Keep the old domain but install the website with the new domain too.
    - Make sure to have the website in webmaster tools.
    - Create canonical URL on your old domain linking to the pages of the new domain.
    - Once your new site has pages getting indexed (new) you start throwing the 301.

    PS: it works with a website with 0 to few backlinks.