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Reddit "Counter-Voting" Theory.

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by jasondenzer, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. jasondenzer

    jasondenzer Newbie

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    Hello everyone, Redditors in particular. Today I discovered something on Reddit regarding the voting system. For multiple months I have ran two Reddit accounts on a consistent basis. My main account currently has 3k comment karma and 1k link karma. My alternative account has 150 comment karma and only 10 link karma respectively. Apparently I was using the same IP address on both accounts so they may have likely caught me gaming their system. I tend to often trade and/or share votes between both accounts on around 80% of my posts. We both post in the same subreddit but generally what we post appears to be physically two different people.

    Anyhow, let's get to my discovery. Let's use a text post as an example from someone else. It has 1 upvote (includes the self-upvote from the OP) and 1 downvote upon viewing it. My alt account upvotes this post so it becomes 2-1 (67%). Then 2 hours later, I go on my main account and upvote it again but what it shows is 1 point at 60% upvoted. That means that it appears as though the ratio is 3-2 upvotes:downvotes. I also tried downvoting that post on my main and I got the exact same result. I tested this by removing my votes and the result showed 1 point, 67% upvoted, which was as if my vote did not count on my main. So basically it seems as though the system recognizes that both my accounts count as one account. I know it's hard to tell or explain this theory but that seems to be the case. Now most of you already know that "vote fuzzing" happens a lot on Reddit. However, this theory was tested a few times with a few different posts while I kept spamming the refresh button to check if it was a fuzz or not. Nothing changed at all.

    Hopefully that's one tip I want to share regarding this voting system. It's tough to game this system, I know but as we share each theory, more data can be compiled.
     
  2. stevesteve

    stevesteve Newbie

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    They can clearly see if you are trying to game the system, it will work fine for the first 2-3 times, but their machine learning catches up pretty easily. Your upvotes are only visible to your spam account, check from a not logged in state, you won't find self upvotes(verify this!).
     
  3. jasondenzer

    jasondenzer Newbie

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    If my votes didn't count, then why did I gain comment karma if I upvoted my alt account or my alt upvoted
     
  4. abhi007

    abhi007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    This helps a lot as I am part of two Skype communities that are solely for this purpose only.
     
  5. HoNeYBiRD

    HoNeYBiRD Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    the only problem with this that it almost doesn't make any sense doing tests with two accounts which share the same ip, try it with two accounts which cannot be linked together
     
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    Agreed. Get a proxy

    @Abhi007, you mean upvote groups?
     
  7. Eforio

    Eforio Registered Member

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    You should also know that Reddit gives approximations and not exact #1's

    So if you see 33 Upvotes that does not mean that there are 33 upvotes!

    They do this to make it that much harder to game their system