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Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by nickjett, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. nickjett

    nickjett Junior Member

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    Will i get penalized for using other peoples recipes on the net, and add them to my recipe site? Surly the same recipes would appear on different sites?
     
  2. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Doubt if you would get penalised because there must be 1000 duplicates of every recipe on the net. If you are copying direct from one site change small things like weight and measures ie 300gm of sugar instead of 250.
     
  3. hpv222

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    I would mixed them up though, don't just grab them from one place; I used to run a jokes site and all was good, no problems, as you can guess, the jokes were found on dozens, probably thousands of other sites too
     
  4. Tangee

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    When I did recipe work for one of my clients, I changed things up. Like if it said flour, I stated all purpose flour. And I changed the measurements as well. I may have doubled it if I could or cut it in half if the ingredients all came out evenly.
     
  5. kimkitch

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    I have a recipe site and have used some ideas from other sites. All I have done is modified the recipe to suit my site. As long as you do not copy exactly what somebody else has written then you should be ok. Everybody has their own interpretation of how to cook something so just put your own spin on it.

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  6. Kixstart

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    It's still duplicate content and Google can still penalize you - no matter you have recipes site or jokes site.

    It is just a matter of "when". Make some slight changes to the recipes, add some phrases, replace some words with similar ones and you'll do just fine.
     
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    I thought duplicate content was a myth man? As far as my experience goes dup content penalty is when you have the same content over and over in the "same site". Meaning for example you have a post in your homepage, then you have the same post in the category page, archive page, calendar page and so on and they are put in as "indexable".

    Otherwise how can all these press release sites with all the same articles rank so well?

    But yeah I'm sure a ton of people believe in dup content penalty as in when you copy the content from another site you would get penalized, I have my doubts on this because I setup sites copying Ezinearticles articles 100% (which is not very ethical by the way) and I found them to rank quite well. The only problem you might encounter is the real owner of the article giving you a pain in the ass to remove the article.
     
  8. thedifference

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    I don't think there is anything called duplicate penalty. I've seen sites with exact identical copy and they both are ranking for the same keyword phrases.
     
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    mast3r0flol Registered Member

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    Get your own pictures too!

    Pictures are a big part of these recipe sites, if your pictures are great you will have a lot of your audience hooked!
     
  11. transitarea

    transitarea Power Member

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    So much debates on this.
    Will adsense ban you for duplicated content?
     
  12. Bane Bentley

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    If you want to be sure you won't get penalized, then make sure to use an article spinner (there are plenty of good free ones, working properly) so that the content appears more unique.

    Even better if you have the time and energy to do part of the rewriting yourself.

    You would only get penalized if the entire post is copies, and you didn't add anything of value.
     
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    You will get penalized if you simply copy and paste an article. Try to rewrite it with your own words so it will appear unique.
     
  14. seowolve

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    Rewriting recipes are also easy.
     
  15. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I don't know why you guys bumped this dead thread but anyway, if you run a Wordpress Recipe Site then you should read this:

    WordPress Recipe Plugins Causing Rich Snippet Manual Actions

    February 8, 2016 by Jennifer Slegg 1 Comment


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    If you run a recipe website, or have recipes on your website, and you are using one of the popular recipe plugins for WordPress that automatically markup the text for recipe rich snippets, you might want to check in Google Search Console for manual actions related to rich snippet spam. Multiple plugins have been triggering these manual actions in the past few weeks.

    It isn?t just one single plugin, as there are a few different ones that have been in use when a site receives one of these rich snippet manual actions. There have been many posts on the Google Webmaster Help forums about recipe plugins causing the issues.

    If you use a recipe plugin, the first thing you will want to do is update to the latest version, as some plugins have likely been made aware of the issue and have fixed the problem on their end (or are planning to).

    Some of the issues are related to the way the recipe plugins mark up reviews and ratings. They are marked up in the code, but are not actually visible to the user on the page, which can trigger the manual action. If your recipe plugin uses reviews and/or ratings, and they are not visible to the user on the recipe page, then you could likely get this warning from Google.

    There is also an issue where some sites that use Genesis have been receiving these, but updating to the latest version of Genesis seemingly solves that problem.

    You can check your recipe pages using Google?s structured data testing tool to see if any issues come to light. But you may want to be proactive and removing ratings/reviews if it is not viewable by visitors to the page.

    The manual action applied to the site means that you will no longer show any of your rich snippet information from any of your recipes in Google?s search results, and possibly all markup. It doesn?t mean (at least not at this time) that your site is removed from the search results, just that you won?t see your rich snippets in the search results. Once you have fixed the issue, you can submit a reconsideration request to Google. But if you have a lot of recipes and don?t want to risk losing that recipe markup, make sure your markup is meeting all Google?s guidelines.

    Last week, John Mueller commented last week that they cleaned up application logic, which could cause structured data errors, but the issue with recipe plugins predates this announcement, so the two don?t seem related.
    Here are some of the recipe plugins with known issues.


    WP-Ultimate Recipe
    The plugin author has acknowledged the problem is related to the reviews and ratings. At the start of February, he stated that he would look at it for a future update, and it appears he may have fixed the issue in version 2.7.1. You can find the plugin here. Forum thread here.

    Ziplist
    This recipe plugin has been discontinued by the author. But you can disable ratings and reviews in the ?Other Options? section, then check ?Don?t show Rating label? option.

    Yummly
    This plugin also has issues with the ratings and reviews. But it also has additional markup problems for anyone also using the Yummly widget, which will be fixed within the next few weeks. This plugin also hasn?t been updated in a year.

    EasyRecipe Plus
    Also an issue with the ratings/reviews when they aren?t viewable on the page. This setting can be disabled in the settings.


    Source: http://www.thesempost.com/wordpress-recipe-plugins-causing-rich-snippet-manual-actions/
     
  16. niel96

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    Just change the text a bit to make sure.
     
  17. christianbed

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    Old thread, and I'm not interested in the niche (though I know it is a goldmine if you're at the top), but if I was going to do it, I'd drive traffic from social media and either share recipes on the site as images or use something like
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    http://phylix.com/products/spin/index.php
    to obfuscate it. I just think it would be super difficult to rank organically for tons of recipes like 'chicken cordon bleu' and 'beef wellington' and 'bramley apple pie', etc.

    If someone had a gun to my head, and forced me to rank organically, I would simply take the recipes that are the most popular in Epicurious, or whatever, and make unique videos with a theme. 'The Posh Cook' or 'Tag-team cooking (where you cook with mates)' or 'Cooking for blokes/gamers/new mummies/etc'.

    The filler words and adjectives you use in your natural speaking construct would make the other things, like ingredients, appear unique enough. You could then drive people to your site for the recipe.

    Heck, you could even think about recipes as a subcategory to a bigger niche. Say, attraction. Have a whole section about how to cook romantic meals. Do a top 10 most romantic meal plans, then link each one out to a recipe or a video of you making it. Talk about how to pair wine, set a table, etc. You could even put amazon links in to products you use in the meal preparation. Tons of possibilities if you don't take the lazy way and just cut/paste the recipe.

    [/unsolicited advice] ;-)
     
  18. SEO Dave

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    I wouldn't worry about this. It's not difficult to add some unique content around it if you want to.
     
  19. blackbeans

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    You will be penalized if you copy and paste other people's recipes.

    Most of these recipes are duplicate content.

    Thus, if most of your pages are composed of original recipe content, you can avoid penalties.

    Bear in mind that Google Panda and its duplicate content mechanism is not automatic.

    I highly doubt that online recipes have modified as far as duplicate content detection and penalization are concerned.

    Recipes may remain constant.

    There are many ways you can rephrase ingredient lists and measurements.

    If you want to produce completely original recipes, play around with the measurements.

    For example, if the original recipe you're copying is for six servings, split it into three servings.

    This way the measurements are different.

    Find synonyms for some ingredients.

    These may not work in all cases, but it's definitely better than copying and pasting materials.