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Real ROI when doing Internet Marketing.

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Danielvalerio, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. Danielvalerio

    Danielvalerio Newbie

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    Hello everyone!!

    I´ve been checking at a lot of information regarding building your email list and affiliate offers.

    I would like to ask you guys, based on your experience what would you say it the real ROI (Return Over Investment) when doing IM.

    I ask because gurus say that for every dollar you spend in traffic you get $44 back, but you can easily buy 1000 clicks for $600 and that doesn´t necessarily mean that you will get like the same $600 back or even a single sale.
     
  2. alexa_s

    alexa_s Regular Member

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    You're mistaken, no guru could have said that. $44 is probably a customer lifetime value or something else.
     
  3. Anglo Shinobi

    Anglo Shinobi Newbie

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    There is no ROI on IM - Internet Marketing is just that: Marketing - it is a skill or rather a collection of skills and skillsets aimed at promoting, advertising and selling a brand, product or service. You could be a masterful, highly-skilled, super-persuasive marketer who has the wits to target a high-earning and high-spending clientel with a sales style and charisma James Bond would be jealous of... or you could be a complete internet newbie who spends hours each day pushing an affiliate link through social media.

    And you still wouldn't know the ROI of IM!

    Quite simply, just with any business: the ROI actually depends on so many factors including your own willingness to strive and work hard and you own abilities when it comes to the skillsets required (or your ability to delegate effectively to people who do own those skills).

    Internet Marketing isn't a simple case of: I buy 10x units in a block for $20, sell them for $4 each and make $20 profit in the meantime.
    Even if you were to do this online it would be more e-Commerce than IM.

    For me (and many others) IM is often mixed up with MMO (Make Money Online) - and again too many factors are variables for me to give you a specific answer on how much you earn....

    You want to Make Money Online? - then design and sell bespoke graphic and web designs. You will make money. Web designers and graphic designers make good money. BUT: Are you a skilled designer?

    Want to Make Money Online? ...then design, write and sell tuition or info-products for niche-specific problems.
    BUT: Are you knowledgable about the solution and the niche in general? Can you write a concise eBook that reads well and answers all the problems? Can you effectly get that eBook in front of the audience you need to?

    Perhaps you see other people writing eBooks and info-products and you think you can do much better? Can you? Go on then ;)

    Also in terms of investment:

    IMer's and people who MMO in general (in my expirience) spend/invest more of their TiME than anything else. Often when looking at ROI people are strictly talking cash money - whereas the reality is often building a business online will take a lot (and I mean a lot) of MAN HOURS.

    In fact: it is very possible to make huge profits online without spending a penny if you have the knowledge and you put in the man hours.

    So to answer your question: What's the ROI on IM?

    a) The ROI can not be determined as IM is too broad of a catagory. A web designer might make $50 or $500 per design, it depends on his skills, talents and the quality of the work produced. The same can be said of content writers.

    Selling a rushed report on WF can make you $200 in profit.
    Researching, crafting and selling an exceptional report on the same marketplace can earn you $1000 or so in profit in it's first week.
    But I can't promise you will make a bag of sand off your product if it lacks knowledge and content.

    Value and Perception play huge roles.

    In my opinion if you want high earnings and ROI and you are fully willing to put in the graft: Learn to become a HOT affiliate marketer who is good at his job and then train up other affiliate marketers to work under you. This is a great method because it really is Win-Win... once you have trained others to make money for themselves, if you sign them up under you with your network you can earn a commission on every sale they make for themselves!

    Anglo Shinobi
     
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  4. Danielvalerio

    Danielvalerio Newbie

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    I love your answer, thank you very much!!

    I am currently a newbie in IM, I´ve been reading and searching a lot of information.

    Gurus say eveything is perfect and easy to do but we can see that it is not that easy as they say.

    I already have a 365 subscribers email list with prelogged emails and affiliate offers but still not a single sale.

    Then a couple of questions come up:
    -If I buy $200 of monthly solo ads what would be a normal number for me to start seeing at least some returns to reinvest?
    -How many emails do I have to send between affiliate offers? (I don´t want to be a pushy marketer)
     
  5. gman777

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    For every EFFECTIVE dollar spent on traffic, you get $44 back. They made this claim based on their tests on some traffic in certain niches. They said $44 on average...But it's obviously talking from the perspective of somebody who knows what he's doing.

    There's a limit to how much money can help you. Generally, you use the money to get the components required to create the bigger picture.

    Take a website for example. You need a domain, hosting, content, design, and traffic generation.

    Domain and hosting are easy peasy. With $22 you're set.
    Design can be done pretty well with some WordPress theme.

    Now the content part. Before you choose content, you need to pick the traffic generation. We will use SEO for instance. You need keyword research first to understand where the traffic is directed. Then you'll need to see how competitive is the keyword. Then you'll need to do SEO.

    But you don't know to do either of those. So you outsource to somebody. Unfortunately, those people suck ass. You're spending $100 for a keyword, and $100 for SEO. Keywords are way too competitive, and the SEO tanked your site because they knew fuck all.

    Now let's see if we were picking another guy. You're spending $120 on keywords and $60 on SEO. But this guy is a pro. He knows his shit on both keyword research and SEO, but he's just new and need some money, or he simply doesn't know to appreciate his work. You're in the first place and you made $1000 in a month. Congrats. That's $820, or about 500%-600% ROI(I'm not doing the math now).

    The last guy is the one who charges you $350 for a keyword and $500 for SEO. He charges a lot but knows his shit without a doubt. You rank #1 as well, and you make $800 in a month from this one.

    If you notice, the second guy finished first, the last finished the second, and the first one, well fuck him, he obliterated your website.

    You've spent more on the last guy, yet he provided less ROI than the second one. Why? Well, the second one gave you a better value, but he didn't know to price his worth.

    As you can see, ROI isn't determined about how much money you spend, but how skilled you're in finding the right product at the right price and by estimating whether you can get a positive return; in other words, EFFECTIVE expenditure of money.
     
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  6. Danielvalerio

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    Yes you are right. It depends on a lot of variables.

    I am currently running 2 campaigns, one in spanish one in english but I´ve seen information that spanish speaking countries are not actively buying online so your chances of making good money are drastically lower that promoting to english speaking countries.

    I think I should drop one campaign and focus on the other one right?