$$$ READ THIS NOW, my review - as promised

logist, Peter emailed me about your question and here is what he had to say-

"You can include any other ads you choose very easily as you have access to the template files in the admin areas. So if you wanted to replace adsense with YPN or adbrite you could do that. Also I know ppp (NetAudioAds) is getting a lot of attention lately so that could be included very easily into the templates as well."

Does anyone have any updates on this? How are your Sites doing?

Well hear is what I have to report - good or bad.

I joined BFRLN 3 week's ago-
I have made 119 sites so far-
77 indexed as of now-
I saw pennies until 01/24/08-

Friday, January 25, 2008 $0.81
Saturday, January 26, 2008 $1.66
Sunday, January 27, 2008 $0.91
Monday, January 28, 2008 $2.83
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 $0.56
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 $1.63
Thursday, January 31, 2008 $3.95
Friday, February 1, 2008 $1.79
Saturday, February 2, 2008 $2.11

I spent 3 days studying niches, I use search results from domz.org, ebay and shopping.com to see if there is interest. I gather search information on keywords brought in by MicroNicheFinder and use the keywords from this software to get my keywords.

I build the sites and change at least 2 things on the template to try not to leave a footprint (Header pic always and whatever I think of)

I gotta tell ya if this sticks I expect to do well. I know this is no income yet but I'm somebody who shut the program down and studied niches literally for 3 days straight
(Translation: I don't know what the hell I'm doing but I'm learning and trying).

Now shut the hell up cuz I know the ones out there are laughing your asses off and deservedly so, you've earned your way but this is for people like me, there are no affiliate links here, no angle one way or the other..just the truth from me.

At 225/mo (paid 3 months at a time = $675 a pop) I gotta make give or take $7.50 a day to break even-----so I'm not even close but take an average of the last weeks numbers so lets say $2.00/day, the 77 indexed X 5 + the extra 15 sites which equals a total of 400 sites and do the numbers.

I am hoping (truly guessing) at $2.00/day with the 77 sites IF IT STAYS STEADY I can make $10.00-$=12.00 a dayX 30 = $300 to maybe $360 a month so I can make my investment back and then go from there. That's my target right now.

A couple things here that I never took into consideration that one might consider if he/she is thinking about getting in:

#1 can you pick niches, it is a serious question to ask yourself or maybe I'm the only stupid one here, it is hard as hell for me to get this ? I don't know why! Take this seriously you better figure this out now and not after you join like I did.

I took a weeks vacation and spent 3 f_ _k _ _ g days studying how to pick good niches and I am still not 100% sure and no way in hell an expert so don't ask me!

#2 Do you know any html? You better, if not your gonna leave foot tracks like Bigfoot at least that?s what I think. Oh better know how to put in pictures and headers to.
This took better part of a day and don't even ask just google html and start reading.
I do the simplest things to get by, DON"T SKIP THIS OR YOU WILL LOSE ?That is what I believe any way.

#3 Your time, listen up I am committed to this; man I am not sleeping a whole lot because I work full time and have a family on top of that. Ask yourself how much time do you have to commit a day?

I cannot emphasize this enough for someone who is like me not rich. You will invest minimum $675.00 for 3 months; you have got to get your ass working (I don't have anybody to help me) immediately or you will never even get your investment back besides finding out if you can make a buck or two before you'll have to re-up.

I know it sounds stupid and I know it is cuz I did it to my self ? I never thought of that until I shelled out $675.00 big ones. I know, I know I can't frickin believe it either.

As far as Support it is outstanding, Peter seems to be on top of things, the site is so far always up so I don't really anything bad to say about the operation.

Listen I'm gonna tie this up by saying this - I'm scared I won't make my money back; at the same time I am excited because as little as I know about good and bad niches - to me - if the numbers at least stay steady I will see my return. Obviously I want much more than my investment back but that is a start.

Hope this helps; I laid it all out there, its all true and well shit who would lie about what I just wrote about anyway?

One last thing, I really don't know if I could be of any help but you can email or post it and I will try to help.

One more last thing ? my apologies to Harro, I purchased MicroNicheFinder and last week I happen to run across an old thread of yours mentioning you recommend it, Man if I would have known I would have surely given you the commission.

bactboats: go to some sites like amazon and see what some hot selling items are. then build a niche off some of them products. then make some of your sites to be the mini-store sites selling those products. the adsense is not gonna bring in shit.

you will make so much more on the product commissions. i only have about 25 or so of my sites up (ive been so busy lately), but the product sites are generating good $. the most ive gotten so far from just 1 site so far is $13 (but the average so far is between 2 and $5 most of the time), just from commission on 1 sale. so i would go with those type of sites if you want to come out ahead at the end of the month.

It is a numbers game.

So you have 77 sites up now.
They gave you 125 domains.
You can make 3 extra subdomains per domain so that are 500 sites.

So my suggestion would be to build those 500 sites ASAP.
The scripts are easy to use and you can build them fast.

gts6 is right I don't make the most from Adsense, the most is coming for commission......

gts6 and Michel thanks for the info.

I have been staying away from you tube I guess because of what has been said in the forum about videos and adsense being like oil and water.

I have many sites using the ebay method and a few with flickr

I forgot to mention I don't think I have made a sale from one of the stores yet, all is from adsense.

gts6 sounds like a plan I appreciate it and will start going to amazon immediately as I have been doing with ebay. It sounds like most of your 25 sites are the store script would you say that is correct?

Michel that is the game plan, it was late and I just wanted to write about my experiences and when rereading it today maybe I didn't do a good job of explaining but I can see with just building the sites as I have the income will grow, this is exciting as this should be passive and combine that with what gts6 just suggested fuels the fire.

I definitely will keep my nose to the grindstone as I see a payoff at the end.

I'd just like to see some of those commissions roll in.

You guys have a great day and the feedback is noted.

bactboats said:

gts6 sounds like a plan I appreciate it and will start going to amazon immediately as I have been doing with ebay. It sounds like most of your 25 sites are the store script would you say that is correct?

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yes that is correct, mostly i use the store script. i havent tried the sharesale ones yet, because frankly, i dont see it being as successful as the other one because i think people would rather buy something from trusted sources like ebay instead of a fly-by-night website they come across (which a lot of the sharesale sites are), plus the fact it is a pain in the ass each time you want to promote a sharesale site you need to apply to each specific program for approval, etc. too much of a hassle for me, but you never know, you may find something interesting there yourself if you investigate it and strike gold

Hey thanks gts6 for the comeback (I guess thats from truck'n).

I think I have about I'm guessing 7-10 shareware sites so if it starts clicking I'll definitely let you know.

I appreciate that people are reporting back their successes with this. I read this thread when I originally joined blackhatworld and come back to it regularly. The thing holding me back from joining is I am completely paranoid and think adsense one day will just slaughter anyone using this script. If I join then it will probably be with an alternative like adbrite or bidvertiser.

Ok but anyone tried the full version one ?

I think it something like 800.00 ?

I make a lot of cash from Shareasale sites. Find a winner and go for it. They have datafeeds too. Don't know if datafeeds are useful for this program though.

Michel.. thanks for sharing. Is there a free trial to see how thing work? It seem to be a cool program.

it look like a clickbank product

joben1 said:

I make a lot of cash from Shareasale sites. Find a winner and go for it. They have datafeeds too. Don't know if datafeeds are useful for this program though.

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are you making $ with shareasale using the fatlosernetwork that we are talking about or are you doing them on your own? if you are doing them on this fatloser, how does the $ compare to the ebay ministores on fatloser if you are also running some of those? just so we have an even comparison

What I like about the eBay stores, is that it will give me 50% of the commssion on every sale. Also in the case someone didn't join eBay yet (hard to believe but there are still people that don't have an account) I receive $25 commssion when they signup and buy.
That happened a view times already.

So yes, after building it is a set and forget "business".

Superman, I don't have the fat plan (yet). But have 300 domains.
So I can have 1,200 sites.

Not there yet, because I started with 100 to see what works best.
YouTube is not the way to go with this.

I agree wih gts6, I don't like ShareSale either, but if joben1 has a good comment about that one, I will look into it too and make 100 sites for it and see if it works.
You can't use every vendor, just the ones BigFat supplies.

So for building my other 1,000 sites I wil go with eBay because there are many many opics and items to make money from.
The most commission I make now is fro a site based on an item I have never heard of before lol.

So I would say test test test and see what works best.

I would also agree my first impression is that ebay would work alot better than shareasale.

Michel, do you know where the ebay sales are coming from and from what sites?

Michel,

Are you promoting your sites in any way such as providing your own backlinks or are you depending completely on their built in system to promote them?

Thanks

John, yes I can track where the sales and affiliate commission is coming from.
In CJ you put in a PID and that code you put into your sites, so CJ tracks everything for you.

Pinnacle, I didn't do any promoting yet for my sites.
The reason for this is that Peter (the owner) said that all would be taken care off.
I wanted to see if that was the case and I have to say yes, indexing is handled and also the traffic is coming.In a later stage I will see what happens if I do some promoting on my own.

As to what makes the most sales, don't go for the obvious and you will be ok!

gts6 said:

are you making $ with shareasale using the fatlosernetwork that we are talking about or are you doing them on your own? if you are doing them on this fatloser, how does the $ compare to the ebay ministores on fatloser if you are also running some of those? just so we have an even comparison

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No I am using another program.

joben1 said:

No I am using another program.

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ok, then we cant really equally compare. while i dont doubt for a moment that you cant make money with shareasale, im just speculating that the ebay store profits would be higher then the shareasale profits using the bigfatnetwork, based on what i stated earlier about ebay being more of a known and "trusted" site plus 50% commission (but again, purely speculation)

i think mostly the reason i stay away from the shareasale stuff is because when i have an idea for a niche and set up a site, i want it up and done NOW and quickly. i dont want to have to apply to run the offer and have wait and wait for approval (and hope they do), etc..