READ! How I Made My First $500

onetoo3com said:

Peter, that's in, out, and around the box thinking well done lad.

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Thanks mate

mafiaboy said:

look it's not that I don't believe you , but did anybody realise how people probably pmed this guy to make a game?

What do I think about you making 500$ per day? LOL what a weird question , sorry but that for me is just getting an excuse to make it look like your not selling your services but instead informing people on how to make money with Bebo.

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So you think i'm just informing people how to do it? The thing i'm doing is asking people what they think about they method, and would you buy it if i offered it to you.
$500 per day, you don't believe me? PM me and i'll give you some SOLID proof.

livinitup0 said:

so these developers have no problem with you taking a profit by using their game? Are you paying them after you make your money? If this isnt illegal it should be....you are basically stealing intellectual property for your own commercial use. The developer isnt going to care that you brought them traffic, even if they make money on it. all they are going to see is that you made money off of their product and they didnt get a cut. (and no their "cut" isnt the traffic you brought them) If you are making this kind of money then you shoudl be hiring a developer of your own to script your own game. Thats how its actually done right.

No offense, I think you've done a lot of assuming and havent had to deal with a pissed of developer yet.

just my 0.02, id keep an eye out for angry emails and lawyers.

however I definately give you props for your ingenuity and determination to make money.

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Taking profit out of their games? I'm simply using a url to embed their game. There is nothing illegal here, the fact i'm using a game thats from a URL isn't stealing a game.

Thats like saying "You've posted a URL from google images on here - You've stole the picture and claimed it as yours! I'm in no way claiming the game is owned by me; nothing illegal what so ever.

Your the one who is assuming here, not me. I won't need to look out for angry emails or lawyers what so ever, neither will i have to come to deal with a "pissed off developer".

"Just my 0.02". I'm the one who does this kind of stuff, i should know what i'm talking about

badassmamma said:

ummm one word errrr two words:

embeded games

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Yeah thats correct, i'm embedding a game

rap8557 said:

hmmm sounds interesting.. so you mean you can put any code you want on the page?
If you can put a java code on it, hit me up! got a method that is extremely blackhat..

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Just about any java code yeah, contact me and i'll see if i can help you

lagrimas175 said:

Question: How do you get users to come to your Bebo app? I am sure there must be hundreds of thousands of apps on there... how do you get users to play your particular app?

Thanks!

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You can create bebo profiles, or groups to advertise the app. Post comments on groups about the apps etc. It goes on and on, and once you get some members they keep rolling in.

dpalat said:

You need to create document like video1.html in video1.html you put flash embed code and your CPM code, upload this on your server... and then use bebo app and iframe this page.

bebo will manually review every game you submit... sucks!

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You are partially correct. Yes, you need to create a html document, add all the codes and upload it. You say iFrame the page but you can't actually iFrame the app itself to get "view" on the ad code.

Bebo don't manually review every game. All my apps submitted didn't need reviewing because i made them before the new rules (only came in quite recently.) BUT, all you have to do is change the category, which barely matters because most people find games through advertising, friends or groups, rather than searching categories for them. (Unless they are the top 100 games on bebo, or even top 10)

Look, First : You are making 500$ a day by some method
Second : You come to BHW and tell every damn thing about your method
Third : You wish to sell it

Huh?

PM me too, please

emperorniks said:

Look, First : You are making 500$ a day by some method
Second : You come to BHW and tell every damn thing about your method
Third : You wish to sell it

Huh?

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1. I did make $500 in one day, I haven't made $500 everyday, but alot of the days.

2. I don't tell ever damn thing about my method - Most people on here have no idea how to do it. Even if there are people reading this, atleast i'm giving someone to BHW.

3. I would be selling the service - Setting everything up. Most people reading won't have much of an idea how to do this.

Well.... You are basically hotlinking using the swf file, and if you don't have permission from the author, then it is illegal.

skylark516 said:

Well.... You are basically hotlinking using the swf file, and if you don't have permission from the author, then it is illegal.

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There are some terms and conditions out there i believe which do allow it. Different sites have different rules.

AHHHHHHHH IM GOING INSANE HERE!!!!

This is the same idea as the whole myspace apps marketing exept you have found a social site which seems to not bother checking the apps, which is great news for us!!

Im fucking freaking out here because im trying to find PPV networks which PAY ME for displaying their banners. Ive searched on here for PPV and found places like traffic vance, ice water main, media traffic all of which SELL advertising for someone who wants to SELL advertising.

HOW THE FUCK, do i apply on these networks to DO WHAT YOUR DOING! i cant find any fucking PPV network which allows me to sign up as an affiliate and get paid per impressions of banners!!

AHH, this is driving me insane.... i need you to tell me at least one damn network i can do this with.

But not zango, that seems to be closed down now

oni3350 said:

And i still dont know what CPM stand for?

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It stands for cost per mille (thousand). So if you put a $0.70 CPM banner on your Bebo app you'll get paid $0.70 for every thousand players.

Most have a CPM of $8 for genuine, pure, American traffic, but that includes slide-ins, pop-ups, pop-unders and whatever other nasty stuff they have. (except malware and adware, and not so sure about that) And there are 20+ networks there.

Guess what I do to make bank?

emperorniks said:

Look, First : You are making 500$ a day by some method
Second : You come to BHW and tell every damn thing about your method
Third : You wish to sell it

Huh?

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Aren't these the steps to selling an eBook on a forum? I won't bother Pming the thread starter , your pictures don't mean anything( to me at least). Hundreds of people on here can make fake pictures and fake videos to sell eBooks on DP , I don't see why you'd be different.

I make money on the internet , and a lot of it. I don't even post about my niche on this forum for how scared I am of someone finding out how I make my money and I definately wouldn't sell my method.

I'll give my apologies when people post here that they've made decent money with this method

The guy who started this thread isn't of much help either.

Who knows if this guy is really making up to $500 some days of the week.

But if bebo are letting ads be placed on apps as apposed to myspace always deleting your shit, you can make big money with CPA or CPM

So im going to find out if what this guy says about Bebo is correct.

And personally i think this guy isnt that smart to let this method out of the bag, specially as it actually can get saturated. This is why myspace is at the point where they delete most of your ads and shit.

You guys are so gullable, this thread brings shame to BHW. An ounce of common sense will tel you that this guy DIDN'T make $500 in one day using this method otherwise why would he be selling it on?

My take on it is he probably did make some money, $5, $10..but he realised this was a 'method' he could promote on bhw and maybe sell at $100 a pop to a dozen or two gullable folks.

See there you have it.. he can make an easily $2,000 just pretending to have an awesome method.

Stop looking for the easy way out guys and learn some real online marketing- SEO, PPC, ewhore, YT- there are options out there.

I can tell you for free you are not going to rip a game off a free site, post it up on a social networking site and earn $500 within 24 hours, or maybe even within a month.

Woops, rote wrong post in wrong thread.

If you directly embed the .swf file then you are fooling yourself thinking that its not copyright infringement as the developer of the game is not making anything off it (unless he has ads in game which I doubt). On top off that you waste their bandwidth as flash games are usually large files. I am not just speaking from thin air here. Ive gotten into trouble for embbeding flash games. And they catch on quickly as they see in their stats that bandwidth is leaking. Ive gotten threats from developers sometimes the very next day after embeding a swf file. Unless you embed their ENTIRE page with proper credits then yes, its illegal. But then again this is BlackHat world so I guess anything goes. Good job on making it profitable if you are indeed speaking the truth. But I must agree with Saberu that this is BS.

worldismine said:

If you directly embed the .swf file then you are fooling yourself thinking that its not copyright infringement as the developer of the game is not making anything off it (unless he has ads in game which I doubt). On top off that you waste their bandwidth as flash games are usually large files. I am not just speaking from thin air here. Ive gotten into trouble for embbeding flash games. And they catch on quickly as they see in their stats that bandwidth is leaking. Ive gotten threats from developers sometimes the very next day after embeding a swf file. Unless you embed their ENTIRE page with proper credits then yes, its illegal. But then again this is BlackHat world so I guess anything goes. Good job on making it profitable if you are indeed speaking the truth. But I must agree with http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/71801-saberu.html that this is BS.

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You make me laugh. The fact i've been doing this for quite a while and i haven't been banned. There's no problem on bebo whatsoever.

Saberu said:

You guys are so gullable, this thread brings shame to BHW. An ounce of common sense will tel you that this guy DIDN'T make $500 in one day using this method otherwise why would he be selling it on?

My take on it is he probably did make some money, $5, $10..but he realised this was a 'method' he could promote on bhw and maybe sell at $100 a pop to a dozen or two gullable folks.

See there you have it.. he can make an easily $2,000 just pretending to have an awesome method.

Stop looking for the easy way out guys and learn some real online marketing- SEO, PPC, ewhore, YT- there are options out there.

I can tell you for free you are not going to rip a game off a free site, post it up on a social networking site and earn $500 within 24 hours, or maybe even within a month.

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You make me laugh. Pretending to make money? If you get 130,000 people playing your game @ $7 per 1000 views, i'm sure i'm making the money i'm talking about. Don't beleive me? Fine. I don't care. The face i'm trying to help people out here by providing a service to help people make money. I've had my time doing this. Although i will continue to make money, i want to pass on my method to the rest of BHW. If thats not good enough, then i'll stop helping people out.

I'd rather use my method that e-whoring. I'm not making an eBook, i'm selling the service to people who want it setting up. If you don't want it, fine. Just leave it at that. For the people who do want it, you will make good money.

Peter Shaw said:

If you get 130,000 people playing your game @ $7 per 100 views, i'm sure i'm making the money i'm talking about.

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WTF??? You mean you've found a CPM Network that pays you $7/100 views???? You must be out of your mind or you lie TOO MUCH!

NO NETWORK WILL PAY YOU THAT MUCH!

First of all, it's for 1k views and not 100, otherwise it would be $70/1k views which is NOT possible, second of all, I've worked with CPM Networks in the past and the max. they have paid me for 1k views of purely US traffic was $5!
I don't know if things have changed now, but still, that's a high amount of money to pay for, especially for social traffic!

Please clarify this, and correct me if I'm wrong!

Glad to see some real post, Keep it up.