Re-use PBN domains

zielony47 · Apr 9, 2017

I found some expired domains (good ones with DA30+ and TF15+ and RD70+). Backlinks profile looks very nice, natural links from sites like Wikipedia, CNN and other news sites. Anchors ratio also looks natural. There are no chinese backlinks and anchors but after checking in archive.org some of them the domains has already been used as a PBN + some used as a Chinese site. These domains are worth registering?

cron7 · Apr 9, 2017

Definitely, not. If they've already been used as PBNs, they've most likely been penalised.

W9go · Apr 9, 2017

no ... don't take them. they are wasted.....

Toto · Apr 9, 2017

Personally I haved used sites like this before, and still have them in my pbn.

If posts on the site get indexed, I´ll link to moneysite.
Worst case scenario, they don´t give any power to your site...

I never had problems with them being toxic and passing on a penalty to moneysite, but ppl talk about this potentially happening.
IMO it´s extremely unlikely to happen though, cause that would make negative SEO way to easy...

Nargil · Apr 9, 2017

It's a waste of money, plus potentially problematic. In times when shit PBNs get hit left and right, it's not exactly something you want to do. Also, forget to find any clean RD25+ domain manually by yourself, especially not with any authority links. I can assure you, that it won't happen. From a batch of 1.5 million domains I am happy if I get 100 domains with TF9+ RD20+ and I know what I am doing. Doing it yourself and manually... it won't happen. It's not 2012 anymore.

Big SEO · Apr 9, 2017

It's not a big deal to get link from CNN

Pinktoe · Apr 9, 2017

Toto said:
Personally I haved used sites like this before, and still have them in my pbn.

If posts on the site get indexed, I´ll link to moneysite.
Worst case scenario, they don´t give any power to your site...

I never had problems with them being toxic and passing on a penalty to moneysite, but ppl talk about this potentially happening.
IMO it´s extremely unlikely to happen though, cause that would make negative SEO way to easy...

Did you actually test those sites? How do you know if they're doing anything for you?

Being indexed is not enough. I test every domain, and I tried out two that were previously used as pbns, they indexed fine. But in the test, these two did nothing. All of my other ones do well in their tests.

0 value. Don't waste your time. Plus you don't know if these may cause a red flag down the line. There's a reason no one else is registering these.

@op, I suggest you buy a premium domain from some one like @Nargil to start out

Toto · Apr 9, 2017

Pinktoe said:
Did you actually test those sites? How do you know if they're doing anything for you?

Being indexed is not enough. I test every domain, and I tried out two that were previously used as pbns, they indexed fine. But in the test, these two did nothing. All of my other ones do well in their tests.

0 value. Don't waste your time. Plus you don't know if these may cause a red flag down the line. There's a reason no one else is registering these.

@op, I suggest you buy a premium domain from some one like @Nargil to start out

The idea of testing a pbn site is nuts nowadays. It will take at least 8 weeks before you see full pbn link effect. I'm creating pbn sites nearly on a daily basis so I can't tell for sure which pbns of mine give the best juice.

But like I said those sites won't get your moneysite penalized.

They might be on some kind of Google shitlist and not give any more value...but even that is depending on a lot of factors.

So if the backlinks to that site are clean I'll keep using them.

Nargil · Apr 9, 2017

Toto said:
The idea of testing a pbn site is nuts nowadays. It will take at least 8 weeks before you see full pbn link effect. I'm creating pbn sites nearly on a daily basis so I can't tell for sure which pbns of mine give the best juice.

But like I said those sites won't get your moneysite penalized.

They might be on some kind of Google shitlist and not give any more value...but even that is depending on a lot of factors.

So if the backlinks to that site are clean I'll keep using them.

Question is - Is it worth the risk and money, when you can get a clean domain instead? This is more of a personal question, I of course do not recommend anyone using former PBN domains. Most people will only waste money.

darulez · Apr 9, 2017

Toto said:
The idea of testing a pbn site is nuts nowadays. It will take at least 8 weeks before you see full pbn link effect. I'm creating pbn sites nearly on a daily basis so I can't tell for sure which pbns of mine give the best juice.

But like I said those sites won't get your moneysite penalized.

They might be on some kind of Google shitlist and not give any more value...but even that is depending on a lot of factors.

So if the backlinks to that site are clean I'll keep using them.

thanx. that's also what puzzled my mind a few days and I wanted to ask nargil too sometime.

however, RD70 and clean? I dont think so at all.
have you atleast checked with some unknown backlink checker?
and else, if you get it registred, atleast check if the post gets indexed.

give juice, I also agree, for "some effect" 3 weeks, for most of the juice 8 weeks are needed

Toto · Apr 9, 2017

Yeh that really depends...If they fit my criteria then I'll take that risk. Meaning at least 3+ contextual authority links and 30+ RD. So in case they are not on some kind of Google shitlist, they have a lot of power.

I wouldn't recommend building a whole pbn with those sites, but I'll not avoid them. It's like taking calculated risk imo.

Nargil · Apr 9, 2017

Toto said:
Yeh that really depends...If they fit my criteria then I'll take that risk. Meaning at least 3+ contextual authority links and 30+ RD. So in case they are not on some kind of Google shitlist, they have a lot of power.

I wouldn't recommend building a whole pbn with those sites, but I'll not avoid them. It's like taking calculated risk imo.

Well if it works for you, I won't argue.

Pinktoe · Apr 9, 2017

Toto said:
The idea of testing a pbn site is nuts nowadays. It will take at least 8 weeks before you see full pbn link effect. I'm creating pbn sites nearly on a daily basis so I can't tell for sure which pbns of mine give the best juice.

But like I said those sites won't get your moneysite penalized.

They might be on some kind of Google shitlist and not give any more value...but even that is depending on a lot of factors.

So if the backlinks to that site are clean I'll keep using them.

Your domains suck if you don't see anything within a week of your test. If you're testing in a similar fashion to how Leith does it, you should get fast results

90% of my domains ( including all of the domains I got from @Nargil ) give results within a week, the rest within 14 days, some of them much sooner like the one attached

What's the point of building a PBN if you don't test them? It's good to know what works and what doesn't. Especially if you're getting dirty domains.

seoways · Apr 10, 2017

it actually depends on the money you are going to spend and the purpose you are registering the domain for. I personally won't register these domains as its archive was a PBN site so most probably it must be penalized. But considering the lower price, the metrics, backlink profiles and if you are going to use it again PBN purpose, we can go for it.

Brian Alexander · Apr 10, 2017

Of course don't buy them.
Obviously, there's a reason why the previous PBN owner dropped them in the first place.....

Toto · Apr 10, 2017

Brian Alexander said:
Of course don't buy them.
Obviously, there's a reason why the previous PBN owner dropped them in the first place.....

Not necessarily. Especially those Chinese spam pbns are registered with some abuse of trial offers for 99cents. So they are often dropped after 1 year.

Brian Alexander · Apr 10, 2017

Toto said:
Not necessarily. Especially those Chinese spam pbns are registered with some abuse of trial offers for 99cents. So they are often dropped after 1 year.

Ehh, and your point being?

So, in this case, are you telling me that you would register a previous chinese spam domain?

seohug · Apr 10, 2017

I wouldn't touch those that has been used as PBN before. You will be starting with a footprint already.

Toto · Apr 10, 2017

If you only use those domains, sure.
But there are way more obvious footprints ppl. leave so that's not really a problem here.

Don't get why ppl. avoid these domains at all cost.

portnikov · Nov 7, 2019

Are these domains indexed? Do they have traffic? If yes, you could link to your money site.
But the best way is to build Tier 2 links from these sites, let's say to guest posts on authority domains...

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