Rankings not Moving?

thinktank1 · Jun 11, 2012

About one month ago I got into internet marketing and launched a website targeting a few keywords. These keywords are the in the medium-difficult range. Rankings have been moving along nicely but now my website does not move up or down in rank. I am stuck on page 4. Does anyone know what is going on? Do I need to use more aggressive backlinking techniques? My strategy has mainly consisted of direct blog commenting, and using web 2.0s reinforced by scrapebox.

Stuff and Junk · Jun 11, 2012

thinktank1 said:
These keywords are the in the medium-difficult range.

I think you answered your own question.

To get any further, you're going to need pagerank and lots of it. Getting your page to pr6 or better will skyrocket your stalled rankings. If you have a healthy budget then I can help. I'm a link broker and have high pr links available. If you're interested, PM me.

thinktank1 · Jun 11, 2012

thanks but I am just looking for opinions at the moment.

Stuff and Junk said:
I think you answered your own question.

To get any further, you're going to need pagerank and lots of it. Getting your page to pr6 or better will skyrocket your stalled rankings. If you have a healthy budget then I can help. I'm a link broker and have high pr links available. If you're interested, PM me.

manny521 · Jun 11, 2012

ranking increases are hard to come by now a days...google seems to have put some sort of delay on the effect of rankings...i could be wrong, but i feel what you are saying...

it used to be so easy to get a site to increase in the serps...

thinktank1 · Jun 11, 2012

yes this was what I was thinking. Looks like google does not like new domains. In the niche that I am targeting, the aged domains are all ranking at the top regardless of the content. Even some with just one page (sales page).

manny521 said:
ranking increases are hard to come by now a days...google seems to have put some sort of delay on the effect of rankings...i could be wrong, but i feel what you are saying...

it used to be so easy to get a site to increase in the serps...

markhenry121 · Jun 11, 2012

Yes, you will create some quality backlinks with using Articles To Create Links, Videos To Create Links, Social Networks To Create Links, Blogs To Create Links, direct blog commenting, and using web 2.0s also good option.

skydancer · Jun 11, 2012

Some "old" tehniques are not working anymore. Now just play "natural" and everything will be okay. I'm telling you this after months and months of researching.

sespot · Jun 11, 2012

When did you build any backlinks last? You need to keep up a steady amount of backlinks weekly and don't over do it, like for a newer site maybe 100 a week as my advice...

Stuff and Junk · Jun 11, 2012

thinktank1 said:
thanks but I am just looking for opinions at the moment.

I don't care if you buy my links or not, because someone will (high pr links sell quickly). Honestly, my links are probably well out of your budget. I'm just trying to help you out here.

I'm telling you the answer to your problem. You chose medium and difficult keywords for a new website and you're asking why you can't get beyond page 4 in rankings. You're lucky that you even got to page 4 in a month for difficult keywords with a new domain & website and no pagerank. You can spend the next year building backlinks and trying to get to page 1, which may or may not be successful, but if successful, it will take that long. Or, you can get some pagerank, and with pr6 or better, you'll be on page 1 the same day that the high pr link(s) get indexed (usually takes 4-6 days for google to crawl the new link and index it). Even pr4-pr5 will probably be enough to get you on page one, but you may need pr6+ to break the top 3 since they're difficult keywords.

I use this strategy all the time, and there is nothing that I've seen that works better. I'm ranked #1-3 for some extremely high competition keywords with domains less than a year old from combining this strategy with a strong link building strategy.

johnmancho · Jun 11, 2012

thats some good info.

Stuff and Junk said:
I don't care if you buy my links or not, because someone will (high pr links sell quickly). Honestly, my links are probably well out of your budget. I'm just trying to help you out here.

I'm telling you the answer to your problem. You chose medium and difficult keywords for a new website and you're asking why you can't get beyond page 4 in rankings. You're lucky that you even got to page 4 in a month for difficult keywords with a new domain & website and no pagerank. You can spend the next year building backlinks and trying to get to page 1, which may or may not be successful, but if successful, it will take that long. Or, you can get some pagerank, and with pr6 or better, you'll be on page 1 the same day that the high pr link(s) get indexed (usually takes 4-6 days for google to crawl the new link and index it). Even pr4-pr5 will probably be enough to get you on page one, but you may need pr6+ to break the top 3 since they're difficult keywords.

I use this strategy all the time, and there is nothing that I've seen that works better. I'm ranked #1-3 for some extremely high competition keywords with domains less than a year old from combining this strategy with a strong link building strategy.

thinktank1 · Jun 11, 2012

thanks to everyone who helped me. Time to get some high pr links.

Expertpeon · Jun 11, 2012

Stuff and Junk said:
You're lucky that you even got to page 4 in a month for difficult keywords with a new domain & website and no pagerank.

I started around 10 fresh domains in a niche I was hit on (the only one that was) and got them all ranking page 2 for some extremely competitive terms. (less searched but still highly profitable terms are all page one)

How long did it take? slightly over a month
How much did a spend? Nothing on links, though there is huge variability in the success of each site based upon unknown reasons (they all shared absolutely identical link profiles)

That being said, almost every "new" person should basically think twice about getting into SEO at this point. It's a ton more difficult than it was even a year ago to achieve even limited success. You need some damn good knowledge of what is going on. Spending a bunch on high PR links won't help you in the long run either.

affarmy · Jun 11, 2012

Expertpeon said:
I started around 10 fresh domains in a niche I was hit on (the only one that was) and got them all ranking page 2 for some extremely competitive terms. (less searched but still highly profitable terms are all page one)

How long did it take? slightly over a month
How much did a spend? Nothing on links, though there is huge variability in the success of each site based upon unknown reasons (they all shared absolutely identical link profiles)

That being said, almost every "new" person should basically think twice about getting into SEO at this point. It's a ton more difficult than it was even a year ago to achieve even limited success. You need some damn good knowledge of what is going on. Spending a bunch on high PR links won't help you in the long run either.

AMEN brotha.
Anyone that knows EP knows his 2.0 + content seo strategy- others use high PR, site networks etc. G got wise to our long lived link spamming games, and now, seemingly at best, these strategies are only for the churn and burn program. If you have a brand or wish to remain in the serp, a much more refined approach needs to be in play.
Check the serps in the major comp niches and you can see what G NOW favors.

Brand + varied anchors
Strict onpage factors
Varied link profiles- relevant seems to help but limited to.
Diverse homepage links- High PR not necessary- low OBL seems to benefit.
Local directory links. Think of the BIG ones- no follow still passes juice/benefit.

Expertpeon · Jun 11, 2012

affarmy said:
Brand + varied anchors
Strict onpage factors
Varied link profiles- relevant seems to help but limited to.
Diverse homepage links- High PR not necessary- low OBL seems to benefit.
Local directory links. Think of the BIG ones- no follow still passes juice/benefit.

And even if you do these things, be prepared for it to not even work

sespot · Jun 11, 2012

Stuff and Junk said:
I don't care if you buy my links or not, because someone will (high pr links sell quickly). Honestly, my links are probably well out of your budget. I'm just trying to help you out here.

I'm telling you the answer to your problem. You chose medium and difficult keywords for a new website and you're asking why you can't get beyond page 4 in rankings. You're lucky that you even got to page 4 in a month for difficult keywords with a new domain & website and no pagerank. You can spend the next year building backlinks and trying to get to page 1, which may or may not be successful, but if successful, it will take that long. Or, you can get some pagerank, and with pr6 or better, you'll be on page 1 the same day that the high pr link(s) get indexed (usually takes 4-6 days for google to crawl the new link and index it). Even pr4-pr5 will probably be enough to get you on page one, but you may need pr6+ to break the top 3 since they're difficult keywords.

I use this strategy all the time, and there is nothing that I've seen that works better. I'm ranked #1-3 for some extremely high competition keywords with domains less than a year old from combining this strategy with a strong link building strategy.

That is a bit silly to tell him or anyone else that seo is that easy, just buy a few page rank 6 links and when they get indexed you will be on page one and top 3??? Did you just start doing seo???

You understand how stupid that sounds to most of us? If that was the case then seo would be super easy everyone would be doing it....

Now I am not saying that your 100% wrong, you do need these type of links but you need other links as well.

affarmy · Jun 11, 2012

I see #1 rankings with nothing over pr1 links..PR in the greater scheme of seo isn't near as important as it used to be (and the serps are thinned out)
If you REALLY want to own or rank p1, get down and dirty and work several sites++.
The algo obviously has some randomizers in it, and mimic what you see. Some sites will rank while others won't and you won't be able to explain it in details aside from randomization.

Gone are the days where an aged site with 1000 pages of quality content and inner linking can beat a one page lander, if the lander has a 'cleaner' BL profile.

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