Ranking Factors In Google October 2012

I think the anchor text spread is to do with getting enough links, where enough is defined as "more good links than the competitor you want to outrank"
Getting them in a manner that is believable to google and not using a specific word of phrase in more than 33 per cent of them.
Consistent linking over a period of time seems to be rewarded these days in many form of seo. Again there are methods or systems that buck this, but this is the way the wind is blowing.
 
What are backlink types working for ranking at Google in the latest algorithm?
 
One of the best posts I have read in BHW, and I read alot. Its nice to have deep analysis in our (SEO) side.
Thanks
 
What are backlink types working for ranking at Google in the latest algorithm?

Everyone has a different method here, and I'm loathed to say one type of link is better than another, because it does depend on what you are trying to rank and the overall method you are using.
What you can say with a modest level of certainly is that Google are looking to create an environment where "content/context" backlinks count for more.
Of course they haven't succeeded in getting there yet, but it seems clear that is the direction they want to go.
Whether you think that good articles, WEB 2 and ******** links with "almost" or "nearly" unique content or content spun to a good readable level is the way? Well that's maybe the safest way.
However there are guys who have posted on this thread who make a ton of cash doing the exact opposite.

This post is really all about pulling some ideas out of the direction Google seem to be going and then drawing your own conclusions.
I'm probably a "Blue Hat" kind of marketer. Content takes centre stage and links required to support every piece of content I put out. My own site is always hand written, and my first tier links are either syndications of my actual site content or limited use of carefully spun good new content.

That is NOT the only way to do things. It certainly isn't really black hat, it's not as quick as the methods many here use - there are a lot of ways to win. Twist an idea someone else tells you about or extrapolate your own from the information here.

An algorithm will ALWAYS be able to be gamed, links will always be vital for Google. Now you see the direction they are pushing make the decision to go with it, or fly under the radar. There is no explicit right or wrong if you think it out first.

Scritty
 
Awesome post that really needed to be Evernoted for future reference too. Rep+ and thanks given.

Thanks for taking the time to share this with the community.
 
If putting adsense blocks in the top 750 pixels of the page is being penalized so heavily by google, whats the best way to determine how far down you should place them? for example, if want to put an adsense block 900 pixels down (to be safe), how do I determine how far down 900 pixels is?
 
Understand the main reason why high PR blog networks still work, and you will have no problems ranking anymore.

*Hint: The main reason is not listed in your OP metrics.
 
Authenticity (% unique 3-5 word phrases >60%)
I wish I understood this better. Maybe somebody who understands language and the way that Google works might be able to tell me exactly what this means. It is something to do with the uniqueness of the work and the way that Google parses text in 3 to 5 word blocks or phrases. Once again there are caveats regarding the inclusion or exclusion of stop words and the way in which these blocks are put together.
My shorthand version would be; "Unique content is better".
But I know there are some real experts out there who may well be able to give me and my readers are much better overview of what this actually means. Full disclosure here - I'm not really sure myself.
I'll add that this does not preclude spinning and re-purposing of content. Spinning well and keeping your work readable and contextual seems fine. However it must appear unique when published and meet the language and context rules here as well to add real value to your SEO campaign

It refers to word n-grams. n-grams are the basis of detecting similar or duplicate text. Copyscape uses an n-gram comparator algorithm but I would not bet that Google uses the same algorithm, though is probably still based on n-grams.

Given two sentences for example:

1. I would like to buy myself some nice shoes for the Halloween.
2. Since Halloween is coming, I am going to buy myself some nice shoes.

That is a 5-gram (n-gram, n=5) that is common. It represents 41% of the sentence. In practice, the algorithms for similarity can be smarter or dumber (copyscape one is pretty dumb) and required computational power increases greatly if you want to use smart ones. For example it could also check for unigrams (1-grams/words) that are common in the sentence, increasing the similarity metric. Plus other stuff. Also number of false positives can be pretty high. Beyond a certain threshold however you can assume it is spun/non-unique content. All this works if you actually do a one-to-one comparison but Google would have to compare every single new web page with all the trillions of indexed pages in its index, or at least with the shitload that match the same corpus (words/n-grams/topic). That would be impossible. Hence, Google either does not detect duplicates like this or it uses a different approach (i suspect the latter) which is possible because of the nature of their reverse index storage system.

From my experience the problem of detecting computer generated content is unfeasible though. Yes, you can find shitty auto-generated content but you can't find properly generated content. The computational resources required to generate content that is grammatically correct and is made of real-world n-grams (n-gram based Markov chains) are not very high. Not to mention that depending on the requirements you have, even simple sentence mixing/randomization gets indexed and ranks even though each sentence in the article is copied from some other article.

Badly/insufficiently spoon content actually can perform far worse than sentence mixing. Won't go into the technicalities of why that is so. Properly spun content however is and will be for the foreseeable future, completely fine. The point is not to spin blindly or superficially but to do it properly so that what results is an article that is unique enough and also is readable, makes sense and is useful just like a hand written article would be. I have wrote some threads and posts on spintax uniqueness, including a case study on a 500 words spintax at different spinning complexity. You may want to look it up if you're interested in the numbers (uniqueness % and number of articles that can be generated safely).

I hope that answers the questions you had. Also, great post BTW. Rep+ because was a good read! (edit: I didn't, seems I can't and have to spread some rep around first) I disagree with some things (obviously) and I will mention them here briefly without much explanation, so when you read them, remember SEO is very relative :)

1. Benefit of EMD - still strong, people just didn't adapted their SEO for EMDs - I have a slightly modified strategy for EMDs just to be on the safe site but never ever had EMDs penalized. Then again, many people do all sorts of strange and stupid things with their sites so it would be impossible to know for sure why others got hit so widely.

2. N0F0llow - I prefer <30%. I have sites with <10% doing great too. never did tests so I have no idea if 30% or 50% works better, I do have a hunch however that a difference here would be mostly irrelevant. what I can tell you for sure is that a high % of n0f0llow is bad, especially combined with an increased link velocity (=footprint of link spam).

Regarding the other points, I either agree, have no idea or think there is a potential for error because of the impossibility to properly isolate the factors/variables being analyzed and their relation to other factors. In other words, a result you see might seem affected by X when in fact it is affected by Y or a construct along the lines of (X+C-D)*Y where another factor (Y in this case) is a multiplying agent (has most influence) and might only apply if another factor or group of factors (e.g. W, T, U) produce a certain result. Or whatever other different reason that would make one believe something that is not accurate or correct.

As a final conclusion, what I can say is pretty much everything works. The key is to finding the balance and implementing things the way it works not the way it kills your sites. That being said, Google is a biased asshole - they make rules and then after a couple of years they penalize you for following them.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I don't give a fu*k what Google wants me to do
 
Great post, thanks!!!




Talking about EMD - maybe the value has decreased but for me not that much... Other thing which is greatly important this days: TRY to be as much natural in linkbuilding and in social signals as you can, constant work gets great results, not just posting all of your content in 1 days but make some shedule.


I think lots of you would agree


Once again thanks - nice thread
 
What you can say with a modest level of certainly is that Google are looking to create an environment where "content/context" backlinks count for more.

Would you agree with this?

"Effective" anchor text = theme of the article the backlink comes from. Of course, providing real anchor text is generic.

For example if all anchors are generic keywords, but the articles where the backlinks are created from are about a targeted keyword, it would still pass link juice for the targeted keyword?

1. Benefit of EMD - still strong, people just didn't adapted their SEO for EMDs - I have a slightly modified strategy for EMDs just to be on the safe site but never ever had EMDs penalized. Then again, many people do all sorts of strange and stupid things with their sites so it would be impossible to know for sure why others got hit so widely.

I got some EMDs with no links and just /2 articles slapped.
 
I got some EMDs with no links and just /2 articles slapped.

There! Still don't see a problem? And if they have no links it means they are not ranking not that they are slapped. How would you rank without links?

As I said, I know many got EMDs hit but I don't know wtf u do to your sites. If you put 2 pages on them and a handful of shitty links what do you expect folks?!
 
it really takes time to read but great stuff .. added rep. nd subscibed t othis great topic
 
There! Still don't see a problem? And if they have no links it means they are not ranking not that they are slapped. How would you rank without links?


Yes no links #22 for a 12 000 exact searches keyword. 2-3 pages of content with pictures and videos. On home page I had one 600 word article, 4 videos from youtube and 4 pictures.

I didn't want to build links to it, among other reasons, to see will google slap a site with no backlinks. It did. However, who knows. It may be the backlinks velocity issue, as that was zero for the site for over 6 months now.
 
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Yes no links #22 for a 12 000 exact searches keyword. 2-3 pages of content with pictures and videos. On home page I had one 600 word article, 4 videos from youtube and 4 pictures.

I didn't want to build links to it, among other reasons, to see will google slap a site with no backlinks. It did. However, who knows. It may be the backlinks velocity issue, as that was zero for the site for over 6 months now.

Unless site is deindexed it is NOT penalized. It just ranks normally. You really expect a site to rank well without links? Build 20-30 pages of content and 2-300 links and then see what happens.
 
Understand the main reason why high PR blog networks still work, and you will have no problems ranking anymore.

*Hint: The main reason is not listed in your OP metrics.

Aged domain, aged links going into domain?
 
Thanks for the share! Great data you've gathered. The Adsense block surprised me as well.
 
It refers to word n-grams. n-grams are the basis of detecting similar or duplicate text. Copyscape uses an n-gram comparator algorithm but I would not bet that Google uses the same algorithm, though is probably still based on n-grams.
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Roses are red
Violets are blue
I don't give a fu*k what Google wants me to do

As usual top quality input from the Octo Man.

Thanks Buddy

Scritty
 
You wouldn't believe how many people ignore word context even on their Tier 1's. So many webmaster spam themselves with poor quality links from my poor quality article directory. IMHO this is a death knell to your search ranking.
 
+rep....great information. You've caused me hours of working going through all of your suggestions and seeing how they fit with my sites.
 
Unless site is deindexed it is NOT penalized. It just ranks normally. You really expect a site to rank well without links? Build 20-30 pages of content and 2-300 links and then see what happens.

This site has been ranked #22 for many months. I am monitoring rank with micrositemasters so there is no room for mistakes.

I am just saying this is probably one of the effect of the EMD update. It probably isn't penalised. We will see when I build some links to it.
 
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