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Ranked a website but NOT with your regular SEO "beliefs"

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ethanmitchel, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    I am well aware this thread will start controversy. But I'm just stating what has been working for me since I started ranking websites.
    With that being told, I've been experimenting with a lot of websites, trying different strategies.


    This specific website I'm talking about has EXACT 2,500 monthly searches with a CPC of 8.50 with High competition (according to google's keyword tool), the first page of results range from websites having PR 3-5 mine is the only PR 0
    I've been on the first page since September 8th and this site was registered approx two months ago.

    What I find funny about this is the site has absolutely NO original content... this is a well made html website but I totally just copy/pasted my content from another site (I was lazy that day ha) while just having about 5 pages with not even 500 words each. Something I can confirm from 8 out of 10 of my websites is that, CONTENT IS NOT KING. I actually find it funny when people are all content is king! content is king! stop building backlinks! LOL, I actually remember messaging people on here thanking them for giving me advice on content is king; nothing farther from the truth.

    Also none of the Google's updates actually targeted CONTENT, none. I don't know where people got sidetracked with that bologna but to each their own.

    Also, this website just has about 10k facebook likes that I remember getting about a month ago, from MY experience social signs are good to justify the back linking you'll do to your site. I don't have any AMAZING on page seo on it BUT I am targetting around 5-7 keywords on it.

    Long story short I didn't touch it after the original first week, I honestly pretty much forgot about it since I'vee been building around 3 websites per day but three days ago I just started building backlinks again on it because it was on position five for it's main two keywords I pointed 70 web2.0 profiles (not blogs) and 100 wiki links, then blasted those 70 web2.0's with 50 social bookmarks and 10 wiki links.
    By the way all those had spun low quality content, again... content is not king. Google targets low quality pages/websites but NOT the content. I'm living proof, and not just with this site.

    By doing what I stated above I quickly went back up to first place even before the original brand.
    If you look at my site using ahrefs it says it has 200 backlinks 140 do follow and 60 no follow pointing to it.
    This isn't exactly a blueprint on how to rank a website, this was merely to make people understand that content doesn't mean anything. Don't take this the wrong way I actually have other authority websites with original high quality content but that's only because I was interested in them.​

    God Bless, y'all.
     
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  2. swi7ch

    swi7ch Power Member

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    Did you clear your cookies? ALL of my websites are on the front page too if I don't clear my cookies...
     
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  3. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    Of course I do, and I do my checking with several tools.
     
  4. gasman

    gasman Junior Member

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    I can actually agree with you to an extent here. Content doesn't play much of a part in getting you ranked. However, it does play a pretty big part in you staying there. There are thousands of human raters out there and if your site comes up and is full of useless nonsense it won't stay there long. This could take hours or years or even never happen. But it could happen at any time.
     
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    ficfroc Regular Member

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    Please allow me one question ?

    Does your site have a unique layout ? I mean have you coded it yourself , or are using a unique template on a CMS ?
     
  6. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    Well, that's true but as I said, the content on the site is totally ripped of somewhere else BUT it's actually good content do you know what I mean?, so yes even if people came into my site and it's copied content then it's still important information.




    I made my website on one of those website building platforms, so it's not unique but you don't see it all the time, I have wordpress sites which are the majority now, this one specifically I built before I started paying for hosting, I actually figured out a way to get an amazing layout without even paying for it.
     
  7. techotalk

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    I agree with you Ethan even i have experienced this thing one of my experimenting site all having copy content got rank 1 without doing any thing basic work except MS submission that too overdone that what i thing (60 web 2.0) (50 bookmarking) (600 pligg bookmark) at constant rate and achieved rank in less than 3 week, first i thought it might be luck but from last 4 month its on top.
     
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    I can concur with this. Ran an experiental health site back in August pre these two latest updates. Did kw research to find good searched for longtails and simply copied good quality articles for each keyword and drip fed them out about one per day. The only thing I did was place a unique para at the top and bottom introducing and concluding the article.

    No back linking was done at all. Guess what? All the posts are ranking great guns between the first and second pages. The domain was new and just one character off exact. Other sites with unique well written content nosedived after the updates, this one just keeps going up - go figure :)
     
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    charlie3 Senior Member

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    Just a quick note, when Google's Keyword Tool says it's high competition, that's not SEO competition, that's advertiser competition to get your Adwords ad to the top. That's why the CPC is so high because the advertiser competition is high, not necessarily the SEO competition.

    Other than that looks good! I'll have to rethink my whole content is king mindset, but I should also say that eventually Google will find out that your site has no good content and will then readjust you accordingly. So you may not need content to rank at first, but you will eventually need at least some :)
     
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  10. ethanmitchel

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    I know, it's insane! all those people killing themselves doing the unbelievable just because they are sheeps and believe everything other people say. Experiment people! :)






    I know! I'm glad you found this out too




    True Charlie3 I just failed to make that point across, and for real I hope this helps you save some time/money or just learn something new

     
  11. perfect10

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    If the content is useful to the visitor, it will stick there as your bounce rate will be low. But why take risk with copied content. Just replace that with original content, I am sure you are making enough with that high CPC to purchase 5-7 articles. Do not let you ATM run out of cash man.. :)
     
  12. ethanmitchel

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    True, but as stated before, that was a site I had pretty much forgotten.
     
  13. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    I agree.
     
  14. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    I personally acquired a lot of them just by either fiverr or like exchange websites, but NEVER get google plus from anyone cause google can track those.
    Also, this site's been up for about two months now so I can tell you that it went through all the current algorithm updates and not just based on this website but others I've got. People are so ignorant to be honest, they believe everything they read off a forum thread or what the majority seems to believe but where's their proof? did they run an experiment on various websites? I doubt it. One of the last major updates even the EMD that people are freaking about in fact has NOTHING to do with EMD's, if you think about it every single website is an EMD of SOMETHING! even spincat dot com is an EMD of spincat do you know what I mean?, that update per say was about signs your website sends out there stating that your site is merely focused on an exact match domain. Sorry I rambled but no, I don't think it was the BHW service provided UNLESS your website was just flooded with the keyword you were targetting and the service you bough just had one type of anchor text that had just your one keyword.
     
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    This is very close to my locsl business technique.
     
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    I agree 100% with OP. I have several keywords (5,400 exact ) that I am trying to rank for and my competitors in top 3 have keyword stuffing (invisible text) yet they are ranking #1 and #2!

    I on the other hand have unique high quality contact, not a single ad or link very clean website but only difference is that I have lots more keyword then them:

    My competitor that is ranking #1 has 782 backlinks.

    The other competitor ranking #2 has 819 backlinks.

    I am ranking #5 and I have 4285 backlinks. Go figure....
     
  17. motzart

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    Quality of backlinks over quantity. It's always been that way.
     
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    cash202 Elite Member Premium Member

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    To OP: So you base you assumptions on how algo and filters work based on one shitty site that you've built in an afternoon that hasn't even aged enough and managed to avoid attention? Good luck with your "strategy".
     
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    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I am not sure what do you mean by this: "Google targets low quality pages/websites but NOT the content."

    What is a low quality site then?
     
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    man, I liked your post always! and this one is no exception ;) thanks for bringing the truth to us