DR Resolved Radicalprivateer versus Mr. Cloud

Username: Radicalprivateer

Please create your Dispute title using the format in the description below. Radicalprivateer versus Mr. Cloud

Are you the buyer or seller? Buyer

What is the date the incident took place? Oct 24, 2025

What is the name of the accused? @mr-cloud

Did you encounter the accused on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you started a chargeback with your bank or a Dispute with the payment provider over the transaction? No

Have you contacted the accused via DM (direct message) here on BlackHat World? Yes

Have you informed the accused of the Dispute? Yes

Please add the URL (link) to the location the transaction took place here on BlackHat World.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/direct-messages/aws.30870361/#convMessage-35955033

What product category best describes the product/service involved in your Dispute? Account buying/selling

What is the USD amount involved in your Dispute? $400

Please describe the reason for submitting a Dispute, in detail.
I contacted Mr Cloud on Telegram initially inquiring about a smaller AWS account. He then claimed to also have a larger AWS account ($5000), and showed a video being logged in to the account. He asked $380 for it, I told him let's do this on BHW, asked him to send me the address there after confirming that it was $380 for the $5k AWS account. See my reply to him here https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/buy-cloud-accounts-aws-vcpu-bedrock-digitalocean-vultr-linode-azure-unlimited-stock-with-lovely-price-quick-delivery.1759963/page-3#post-20010946 so that he could DM me, screenshots of DMs are below.

He sent the address, I sent USDC.

He then first claimed he did not have electricity so could not immediately send the account and to wait a bit, after a few hours he deleted the Telegram chat.

I then told him on Blackhatworld he could choose to send me the account details or refund me, and then later told him he had 24 hours before I opened the dispute.

Please detail exactly how you have tried to resolve your issue before now.
Have messaged the seller both on BHW and on Telegram

What kind of outcome are you looking for from this Dispute?
Either send me the account details, given that I now believe he does not have access to the account, refund me the $400 which we can see on-chain was transferred to him to the address he gave me.

Please paste any URLs that point to evidence for your Dispute.


Please upload any screenshots, videos, or other document files that point to the required evidence.


Please confirm you have sent a DM, here on BHW, to the accused? Yes

Please confirm there has been a 24 hour period between informing the accused of the dispute and right now? Yes

Please confirm that the transaction started on BHW via DM, sales thread, WTB/HAF threads, advertisement or signature. Yes

Please confirm that you have provided evidence of the transaction via URL, screen shot or video. Yes

Please confirm that you have explained what the dispute is about, in detail. Yes

Please confirm you have added all supporting evidence to show that you have a case for a dispute. Yes

By pressing the Submit button on this form, you certify that you have completed every step.

You acknowledge that skipping any of the requirements or failing to attach evidence that supports your case could result in this Dispute not only being deleted, but your account being given a warning. Yes

Information For The Accused
@Mr. CLOUD, you have 24 hours to respond to this disputes thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the dispute starter and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

Information For The Accused & The Dispute Starter
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I will give him account information.. He receive account.. But now why dispute..

And he will deleted all chats telegram

Actually, i will send him account details. I have my emanation so i am can't check he deleted all chat on telegram..

And he tail me account secure..

I will check accounts details he chnage account details ..

I can't access this credit account

@Radicalprivateer, have you received new account via DM?

I had given him an account on telegram. He changed the account details and now opened a dispute in my name. And changed all the details. He is demanding the account from me again. I don't understand. Why is he doing this.

I will recover the mail and give you proof. When I get home,.

Mr. CLOUD said:

I will give him account information.. He receive account.. But now why dispute..

And he will deleted all chats telegram

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@Radicalprivateer - what say you?

BassTrackerBoats said:

@Radicalprivateer - what say you?

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Brother please, Don't kidding.. I'm really worried about the exam. Tell me the truth, brother.

Mr. CLOUD said:

Brother please, Don't kidding.. I'm really worried about the exam. Tell me the truth, brother.

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Chill out, these things take a little time.

We'll get it all figured out.

I received a DM from him now saying this:

AWS 5K CREDIT

-edited out-
Pass : -edited out-

2fa : -edited out-
IP USA

Why chnage this account details. I will give you account you said ok account secured.. I check my self your chnage accout details. And why deleted telegram chat.

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And a second one:

Are you kindding me.. I was busy with my exams. I couldn't check at that time. If I had known you would do this, I would never have sold the account to you.. Why open dispute.

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I tried the account, with a US IP, but immediately get an error from AWS saying the account does not exist. I've bought AWS accounts before, I know how this works, and in no case does it give an "account does not exist" error unless the account actually does not exist. I'm also okay DMing you the details @BassTrackerBoats, so you can see for yourself.

I did not delete any chat on Telegram, nor did he send me any account details on Telegram. It's also frankly laughably ridiculous that I'd insist on doing this through BHW and made him put the payment details and such there, but that he would then send the account details through Telegram.

So no, definitely not resolved. I don't think he *has* an actual AWS account to sell at this point, but would still be okay either with a $5k credit AWS account or simply a refund.

@Radicalprivateer Brother, what do you mean? I told him to create an account for my exam and I went offline. You said everything is fine, I have secured the account.

There is no point in deleting all your Telegram information and claiming another account.

Yesterday when I saw the dispute in my name. I was disappointed. Then I replied here and tried to log in to the account. But I couldn't. You have changed the account details.

@BassTrackerBoats I don't know why he is doing this. I am a student, studying. I paid the money to sell the account with my exam fee. And if he takes the account for himself, what can I do about it? Why should I refund?

I hope for a quick solution.

This is an aws 5k credit account which is very expensive and time consuming to create. It has become very difficult to create.

If it were so, he could not use the account. It has been suspended. I would definitely refund or give him a new account, but after he has made the account his own, I cannot refund or give him a new account in any way.

@BassTrackerBoats

Dear moderator, please try to understand one thing. If a product is damaged or not liked after purchasing it from the market, the seller can take all kinds of steps. But if he leaves the product at home or takes it with him, he cannot claim a refund or not say give me another product.

I frankly didn't expect you to outright lie.

The last communication we had on TG was me repeatedly asking whether you were going to send an account, and you at one point saying you had no electricity so could not send yet. Then you deleted the entire Telegram chat.

To be clear, you never sent me any account or anything useful on TG, and I insisted on doing the actual deal on BHW. Claiming that we did the deal on here but then you sent the details on TG (can't say full word since then I can't post, apparently) is.. well, it's something.

I don't think you can change AWS account details to the extent that you can also change the login, but have to admit I've never tried, also not with accounts I've bought from others. Either way, the first time you sent me any account details was the DM yesterday which I also posted in here with the redacted user/password, and that one immediately gave the "this account does not exist" error.

I'm totally fine doing this with an escrow or middleman or anything of the sort, since then it's not possible to simply claim that you sent me details to a working account when you didn't. This is taking up a lot of time and frustration.

I will give you account brother. And you confirmed me. Then i go to offline.

This is an aws 5k credit account which is very expensive and time consuming to create. It has become very difficult to create.

If it were so, he could not use the account. It has been suspended. I would definitely refund or give him a new account, but after he has made the account his own, I cannot refund or give him a new account in any way

You did NOT give me any account, nor did I confirm. You are implying this happened on TG I guess right, since otherwise you would just show proof from BHW.

On BHW you sent me an email/password combination (the post I made on this thread), to an account that does not exist.

That is the only time you have ever sent me any details, after me starting this dispute.

Seriously, either give me a working account, refund me, or please make sure that this guy can't scam anyone else.

If I knew you would delete everything on Telegram, I would have screenshot the conversations.

... I did not delete anything on Telegram, and I specifically asked to communicate the deal on BHW because it's happened to me before that someone deleted the Telegram messages.

Bro please

Radicalprivateer said:

Bro please indeed. At this point I'm not even expecting to get my money back or an actual account, I just want to make sure you can't scam others.

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Brother, don't do this. I can't comment on my threat for you.

What do you mean you can't comment on your threat to me?

Can you please stop and give me a chance to comment on my threat? I can't do my job because of you.