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Questions regarding private blog networks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by NicheFocus, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. NicheFocus

    NicheFocus Newbie

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    Hey guys. I'm new here so please bear with me.

    Iv read a tonne of great posts here on public and private blog networks. I trying to formulate a plan to building a private network I can use myself. This is what I have so far:

    1. Buy some EMD's. Write 3 - 10 articles and build a site on each EMD. Ensure each site is hosted on a different sever, with different ips, different or private whois, no Google analytics's or other footprints.
    2. Create a series of web 2.0 sites on sites like Squidoo or Tumblr. Write some content for each and use different accounts for each site.
    3. Create a main money site designed for max conversions. An authority site.
    4. Point the tier two sites and web 2.0 sites at the money site as well as authority sites.
    5. Use a primarily white hat link bait strategy to supplement the moneys sites link profile.
    6. Build links to the tier two sites and web 2.0 sites. Hopefully been as the sites have EMD's I will see some traction the SERPS for the tier two sites which I can use for lead gen/cpa etc...

    The main problem I have is finding the most time/cost effective strategy to build links to the tier two sites in sufficient quantity as to pass enough link juice to get both the tier two site ranking AND the money site.

    My initial thought was your typical manual blog commenting and forum member pages posting. However I also had the thought of using some lesser known public blog networks (that are hopefully flying under goggles radar for the moment, rip BMR) to send links to my tier 2 pages and build up their pagerank.

    This way if for some reason one of the sites in the network loses page rank because they are linked to by a slapped public blog network. I can just pull the link to the main site. Very controllable.

    Any thoughts, suggestions, sorry if I rambled a bit or not making sense. Just trying to get an overall strategy I can commit to!

    Feel free to grab me by the shoulders and steer me in the right direction!
     
  2. kitteh101

    kitteh101 Regular Member

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    For some reason after reading that my mind is just totally scrambled :confused: Your ideas sound pretty decent though but i have no suggestions really just also take in other ways of driving social traffic - youtube, twitter, facebook and so on! good luck.
     
  3. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    One thing we tend to forget and reduces the ownership cost of private-personal blog networks is that we can put some ads on those pages (without footprint to our money site) so in theory they can pay for themselves.

    Your idea of EMD is good. Can get non com/org/net emd's for the blog net.
     
  4. esfera

    esfera Newbie

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    not sure if EMD will pack the punch it has, google will be discounting it, especially those dashed URLs gardening-flower-fertilizer-website
     
  5. blackieman

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    I think if you get an EMD blog (as a tier 1) and point a link to your money site EMD, it would have a HUGE punch. There are a lot of emds available (.us for example), good enough for tier 1 IMO.

    Also one reason I see the blog nets gettting de-indexed, is every post is about a different subject. A themed blog for tier 1 would be hard to beat.
     
  6. NicheFocus

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    The way I figured is even if the EMD's don't pack as much of a punch just for being emd's, it wouldn't matter as the main purpose is to drive link juice to the main money site. The EMD sites themselves ranking for profitable terms is just a bonus.


    Exactly! My thinking was initially 5 - 10 blogs all on a specific niche. Along with a handful of web 2.0 sites.

    So that when the main money site posted some content and the 5 - 10 blogs + web 2.0 sites immediately link to the article in a contextual link all from the same niche. Google would perceive the money site as an authority.

    Im thinking of using some blog networks, forum links, and blog comments to give the blog network that initial juice.

    Im not worried about the TLD. My niche is still pretty open and iv got some quality EMD .coms (Three words) which should hopefully work out well.

    Thanks for your comments so far guys!
     
  7. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    This didn't work for ALN. BMR had a similar setup and failed. Just food for thought.
     
  8. blackieman

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    I have not used ALN, but suppose Matt C. submits an article and checks where it ends up and just bans that. That is the weakness of all these networks. Even if they write the article themselves, you still have to provide the link url, and that can be traced.

    In a private-personal blog net, as long as you are not traced via ip or cookies, and actually link from the blog net to some random places as well (not only to your own site) I don't see who in the world can detect that.
     
  9. Nekojin

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    I think you can save yourself a bit of time here by using a program like SENuke to create your web 2.0 sites and build links back to your tier 2 sites and point these to your blog network sites. I would not create links to both the money site and your blog network sites from any of the same sites as it would start to create a little bit of a footprint, and let's face it Google's getting better about finding this stuff by the day.

    Run links from your blog site back to your money site, then build a good solid link profile for the money site with more of your white hat tactics, manually created links, etc.

    SENuke can be really pricey but there are some good offers out there for people to run rounds of SENuke on your site, or you can normally score a free trial to get the initial job done for you.
     
  10. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Web 2.0s are a joke. I can almost guarantee conclusively they don't work for any moderate keywords.

    It's really east to find all of the sites in a network. Find one, then start looking for matching content. As soon as one person submits an article that has 3 consequituve words, the whole network can be traced.
     
  11. NicheFocus

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    I'm new to blackhat so im not familiar with SENuke. iv seen people mention it but not really looked into it. Off to the search bar for research I go.

    Thanks for your reply, but as it is a personal network I would be in complete control over all the content on all the sites in the network. I plan to submit completely original content to each of them that is of a high quality. (700 - 1000 words hand written, inter linking to relevant resources online). I have quite a bit of knowledge on the niche as well so could offer personal insight with the content to add even more quality.

    And im sorry but 3 consequituve words is not a footprint that google would identify. Im sure I could find a million+ blogs that have the exact same three word phrase throughout there site.

    "How are you"
    "Please click here"
    "Please like us on facebook"
     
  12. GeeWhiz#1

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    Private whois wont work. You will need to sign up to a new registra account (with different information) Every time you want to register a new domain. Private whois isn't applied right away and Google will have records of the registrant before whois is in affect.

    Also, make sure everything is on a different hosting account and/or different "c class" ip (seo hosting).

    (I've put c class within quotation marks because seo hosting isnt actualy different c class ips but this thread isn't needed for that discussion)

    Make sure all your websites are using different themes. Mix up the website types i.e WordPress, some Joomla and some html websites.

    Most importantly, don't do any interlinking between the sites. All you want is to point to main site/money site.

    Then just build links to your sat sites/private network sites and you're golden.
     
  13. BHopkins

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    I didn't say any 3 words, but give me almost any ALN site and I'll be able to find at least 5 more articles manually looking at 3 or less words.
     
  14. manny521

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    The private networks are being taken down manually.
     
  15. blackieman

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    Well constructed private networks would not be taken down. Good networks:
    -themed content (that is a big sign for me, when I see a blog and every post is talking about a different subject, ban hammer time)
    -linking to different places - theme related, but not focused on linking to one site only
    -different class c
    -unique reg info (could be a dummy one)
    etc.
     
  16. BHopkins

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    This is a good, albeit obvious, way to build quality sites. Most people aren't willing to spend thousands to get it set up and started.