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Questions about spin articles

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by keizer, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. keizer

    keizer Regular Member

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    May be my question is stupid beginner's one and discussed many times but please let me know it in detail.

    How much uniqueness a spun article needs to avoid duplicate content penalty?

    If I post spun articles with not much uniqueness to different blogs and directories and each has links to my website then can my website be penalized by search engines specially by Google? If not then can I get backlinks from those blogs and directories?
     
  2. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    As A general rule, 30% unique is A good range for you to reach for... So I go for about 35% when possible.

    I usually spin about 60-70%, this makes it so that I can submit it to a lot of different sites and possibly increase my exposure.
     
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  3. keizer

    keizer Regular Member

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    Thanks.
    Any program to compare find out uniqueness?
     
  4. VitaVee

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    From my testings the 30% minimum level that is often recommended is NOT enough anymore.

    You should aim to have at least 50% uniqueness. Search engines are getting smarter and can spot spun content very easily if you only replace words with synonyms.

    For example:
    This kind of spun article is not going to give any good result for several reasons:

    1/ The resulting articles will have the exact same number of sentences
    2/ Each sentence will have the same meaning (synonyms are known by the search engines)
    3/ Each sentence will have approximately the same number of words

    It's very easy to detect this, even for a bad programmer :) And this is how the majority of people is doing it (and the reason why so many say that spinning article doesn't work).

    Now you have to spin at the sentence level + at the paragraph level to get long lasting results.

    Actually the further you go from the individual words for your spinning the more powerful it is.

    Look:

    If you spin by words, the overall structure of the article is exactly the same, same sentences except synonyms that are easy to detect.

    If you spin by sentences, the structure of the article is still the same but the length of the sentences are very different, and we're not using synonyms that are so easy to detect, instead we reformulate the meaning of the sentence and the grammatical structure of the sentence itself is different. Spinning by sentence is > spinning words.

    If you spin by paragraphs, the structure of the article becomes different - it's becoming very difficult for a programmer to find that both variations of a same paragraph are similar. The number of sentences is different, the organisation of the sentences is different.

    If you spin by articles, you have the best uniqueness level and this is exactly like writing different articles. You see this is why I said the further you go from the individual words the more unique it is.

    Vita Vee
     
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  5. willco

    willco Newbie

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    dupefreepro or dupecop
     
  6. keizer

    keizer Regular Member

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    Recently I have found similar information given by "VITAVEE" in a video of senuke.
     
  7. VitaVee

    VitaVee BANNED BANNED

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    Hey I noticed that we didn't reply to this part of your post.

    No your site will not get penalized (if your site is already well established and sandbox proof) but here is what will probably happen if you post poorly spun content to many sites quickly :

    1/ You will notice an increase in your rankings pretty quickly (it could be as quick as a few hours if you're using some blasting softwares)

    2/ Then your rankings will progressively get back to their original position as google finds that all your links are coming from dup content.

    You will have wasted your time and ressources.

    I have read from many people that links coming from duplicate content were as powerful as links coming from unique content. Usually these persons even tell that when we say that you need your links coming from unique content we're just lying and that it's a myth. It's not. I'm not talking about theory I have made several testings and all the results I got show that your links coming from dup content will give you a temporary boost in the serps but after a few days (or weeks depending on the competition) you will get back to where you came from.

    So to conclude, if you use poorly spun content then at worse your rankings will stay the same.
     
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