Question About Starting A NetFlix Type Site

I'm currently interested in investing in to the creation of a movie based site and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on the legalities of starting/operating such a site? For example, am I legally allowed to download movies from Torrent sites and add them to my movie site? Can I do that as long as I'm not charging users to watch the content? Also, what I wanted to do was offer all of the movies for free and just implement what I believe is called the "Share to Unlock" plugin where users must share the movie on one of three Social Media platforms before the movie is available for them to watch.

Let me know what your thoughts are on this idea/method. Any input is appreciated and I appreciate your time with helping me in answering these questions.

Lol it isn't legal to provide copyright content for free.

However will you get caught?

Maybe eventually if you got big enough.

Also how do you plan to monetize it if they only have to share to play, adsense?

Maybe keep the "most popular films" in your paid members area.

FPS

FutureProofSeo said:

Lol it isn't legal to provide copyright content for free.

However will you get caught?

Maybe eventually if you got big enough.

Also how do you plan to monetize it if they only have to share to play, adsense?

Maybe keep the "most popular films" in your paid members area.

FPS

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Well, with the amount I'm willing to invest in to this, I want it to be 100% legal, I'm not looking to just create another movie site that's been created by a 15 year old that's looking for a quick profit by selling a 2 week old site on Flippa. This would be a business. So, perhaps I should have clarified my question(s). How do I legally offer copyrighted content and charge users to view it? Also, to answer your question, I'd monetize it with video advertisements throughout the videos, not AdSense.

Then you've gotta buy rights to show the films, such as the way Tv channels do etc.

Probs big money, but not my expertise I'm afraid.

FPS

You're not allowed to download movies from torrent sites full stop so what makes you think it would be legal to upload them and let people view them through your site ?

You haven't got a clue what you're doing do you?
Unless you have a few million put aside forget it.
I have a friend that worked in recruitment when they were recruiting coders for youTV
or one of those digital media providers and their recruitment budget was over $100,000 a month.

I like the fact you are thinking big though.

Legalities? LOL...ask a lawyer.

Someone with 100+ SEO clients a month should be able to afford one....heck, you should have one on retainer.

Welcoem back Veyron. Man, you like those exotic cars huh. Went from a Veyron to a Agera.

Why did you abandon your Limo thread?? Too much heat?????

Here....for those that want to see:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/666431-method-how-i-turned-7-700-5-000-per-month-business-3-months.html#post6762697

Fresher idea - something NEW.

Good luck =]

OP, no disrespect or offence meant but you are full of shit aren't you?

Do you have any idea what the cost of a major licensing deal with the major studios will cost you OP?

http://www.tested.com/tech/set-top-boxes/1662-how-much-netflix-spends-on-instant-streaming-licenses/
http://gigaom.com/2010/07/29/the-real-cost-of-netflix-streaming-is-the-movie-not-the-bandwidth/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflix

Those figures in those articles are a few years old.

oxonbeef said:

You haven't got a clue what you're doing do you?
Unless you have a few million put aside forget it.
I have a friend that worked in recruitment when they were recruiting coders for youTV
or one of those digital media providers and their recruitment budget was over $100,000 a month.

I like the fact you are thinking big though.

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Yeah, I definitely don't have that kind of a budget, I've seen movie sites in the past on Flippa so I wasn't sure. Of course they were small sites, nothing big but I liked the concept so I figured I'd ask. Thanks for your input and as Donald Trump said: "If you're going to be thinking at all you mind as well be thinking BIG"!

netmoney1 said:

Legalities? LOL...ask a lawyer.

Someone with 100+ SEO clients a month should be able to afford one....heck, you should have one on retainer.

Welcoem back Veyron. Man, you like those exotic cars huh. Went from a Veyron to a Agera.

Why did you abandon your Limo thread?? Too much heat?????

Here....for those that want to see:

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I never abandoned my limo thread, didn't realize there were unanswered questions. Yes, I have a little over 90 SEO clients right now, it's not a high risk business and by no means do I consider it a "LARGE" business, there's plenty of guys out there bigger then me I'm just a small timer, so, there's definitely no need for me to have an attorney. Also, you're probably the 5th-6th person bringing up "Veyron", what are you talking about?

W130SN

What do you mean? Obviously from what was posted by another member, this business model wouldn't work for me due to the large capital that would be required. It was a thought though and I guess a thought is where this idea will stay at because I don't have those kinds of funds to invest. Thank though.

Thanks for sharing those links though I'll take a look!

Agera said:

I never abandoned my limo thread, didn't realize there were unanswered questions. Yes, I have a little over 90 SEO clients right now, it's not a high risk business and by no means do I consider it a "LARGE" business, there's plenty of guys out there bigger then me I'm just a small timer, so, there's definitely no need for me to have an attorney. Also, you're probably the 5th-6th person bringing up "Veyron", what are you talking about?

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Ahhh come on Brandon....don't try to be so slick...don't worry - won't totally out you yet. I'll wait until you get your allowance money and upgrade to JRVIP - then do it. Enjoy

netmoney1 said:

Ahhh come on Brandon....don't try to be so slick...don't worry - won't totally out you yet. I'll wait until you get your allowance money and upgrade to JRVIP - then do it. Enjoy

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I really have no clue what you're talking about, I was just asking about starting a movie site what am I trying to be slick about? And no my name is not Brandon it's Jacob, is there like a routine here where you guys are mean or something to new members? I've been on WF for over 4 years and came here because I thought it'd be better but I'm starting to think I was wrong.

OP, how long have you been using the Internet?

You have never seen the warning "This Site May Be Hacked"?
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/665433-site-may-hacked.html

Just out of interest, how old are you?

W130SN said:

OP, how long have you been using the Internet?

You have never seen the warning "This Site May Be Hacked"?
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/665433-site-may-hacked.html

Just out of interest, how old are you?

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Don't worry - 100 SEO clients can't be wrong

Agera said:

Yeah, I definitely don't have that kind of a budget, I've seen movie sites in the past on Flippa so I wasn't sure. Of course they were small sites, nothing big but I liked the concept so I figured I'd ask. Thanks for your input and as Donald Trump said: "If you're going to be thinking at all you mind as well be thinking BIG"!

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Dude, I understand your basic thinking.

Making yourself seem bigger than you are is good, because you can sell stuff a lot more easily and you can throw your weight around.

Back in the day when I posted on BHW a lot I'd pretend to be some sort of Scrapebox GOD (posting on every single scrapebox thread, linking to advanced tutorials whenever I could, saying condescending things like "if you can't figure that out, you still have a long ways to go" when someone asked a simple question). I could use Scrapebox pretty well, but I only really had 4-5 sites ranking at any given time. I used the default footprints... I did the basic scrape 'n' spam with no real modifications... but since I cultivated that image for myself, people thought I was really advanced, even though I never explicitly said I was really advanced.

When I popped a link to buy a SB autoapprove list in my signature, it sold very well. Basically, what I did worked. I didn't lie or deceive anyone, rather I let people make up their opinions of me based on my Scrapebox posts.

That being said, you are so clearly full of shit it is absolutely mind-boggling. No one with 90 SEO clients would ever be asking a question like this. If you are going to pretend to be something that you are not, you have to cultivate that image all the time, whenever someone sees you speak. Not only that, but you are blatantly lying. You might have a few SEO clients, but certainly not 90.

It's like if I would have posted a thread about Scrapebox back in the day asking "who is the best Scrapebox proxy provider?" - that clearly shows I know nothing about Scrapebox, just as posting this question shows you know nothing about marketing - yet. Anyone who had the smarts to get 90 SEO clients would know that this site idea was not viable. They'd also be making enough money off of their SEO clients to not have to start a stupid f*cking movie content locking site...

Basically, step your game up. I'm assuming you're under 18 - I'd guess 16 - which is fine - but it's clear that you are. Start acting like you're 25 to 29 whenever you speak online or no one will take you seriously.

Good luck.

Jared

One of my first main sites was a movie site. But I never hosted any of the movies directly with my own servers, I just provided links. If this was 7+ years ago I'd tell you just to put links up, but with SOPA and all the government crackdowns this niche is too risky for me (to be pasting links that is).

Its good to create a site that is your "baby". It will teach you all kinds of shit, html, css, wordpress, SEO, design, content writing and or acquiring, outsourcing labor, and basically will teach you how to react to the market conditions and make adjustments to your site or processes.

But I'm pretty sure its a taaaad bit late to be making a movie site and putting illegally downloaded torrents on it and profiting from that copyrighted content.

Also you didn't say how you were planning to monetize the site. You said you would implement the "Share to Unlock" plugin, but that only makes people share it via social media, it's not really a form of monetization directly.

A real entrepreneur would here all this negativity and it would only make them want to do it even more, just to prove everyone wrong. But in this case I think you should ask about another website idea.

Agera said:

For example, am I legally allowed to download movies from Torrent sites and add them to my movie site? Can I do that as long as I'm not charging users to watch the content?

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Yes, this is perfectly legal, providing you contact the Production Company for each movie you include on your site with the link. You must also give them your contact details, as you must be available if they have any questions or specific requests.