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Question about PR Backlinks

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by MikeLac, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. MikeLac

    MikeLac Regular Member

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    Just have a question about PR "Link Juice".

    Lets say that you have a blog with a PR5 for the blog home page. You just post a new blog post and I decide to comment on it to try and add my URL. Your new blog post will have a PR of 0 until there are some backlinks to that particular page.

    Now, do I get the link juice from the PR5 or the PR0?

     
  2. mate73

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    PR0 - so make sure to check PR for the URL and not the domain.
     
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  3. bobby96

    bobby96 Newbie

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    what you want do have link from home page to your new post that will transfer some page rank forget exact percentage that transfer.link from post back to homepage that way your homepage send pagerank to blogpost then blogpost send pagerank back to homepage improves pagerank of homepage which will then build pagerank of post. this recurring cycle i hope i explain it well enough
     
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  4. Moggy

    Moggy Registered Member

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    Thats not correct. Its better to have a link from the homepage to the post only, then a ton of backlinks to the post directly (mix it up, so PR0-PR9, not just high ones).
    When google follows a link and then on that page finds a link back, it discounts or reduces the importance of that link. Also remember links from the same domains and IP's (servers whether or not your own site) also carry much less weight with Google.

    This is why linkwheels are so effective, but as a simple example lets say there are only 5 sites. One is your 'money-site' (your actual site) which sits in the middle and the other 4 (A,B,C,D) are mini-onepage-sites based on the same niche sat as a square around it (ok so not looking like a 'wheel' but you get the idea).

    All of the sites are hosted on different domains with different servers (IP's). All four sites link directly to your money-site, but this doesnt link back to any. Then site A links to site B, which links to site C, which links to site D, which links back to site A. This way you pump all the PR juice around each site but dont lose anything for reciprocal linking.

    Of course it needs to be much bigger than this and these days far more complex as Google try to detect them. Such as also linking C to A and D to B, then linking a random number (1-5) to external independent sites from each one, as well as interlinking money-sites themselves and the different spokes (A-D) of multiple linkwheels (even if its in a different niche). Also use different sets of backlinks to the spokes of the wheel, rather than the same ones on all (dont use links from the same sites for every one).


    Sorry wrote a bit more than expected as its off-topic.
    But the idea if you only want PR juice is to link your homepage to your post, but dont link back. However, as a general design practice if you want the same people revisiting your blog, then they will want to be able to explore it and you would put a link back so they can see other posts.
     
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    xxf8xx Supreme Member

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    Like the above posters said. The URL should have a good PR. However, if the home page has a high PR, it's probably a good chance that they have some inner URLs with high PR, so it's a good idea to scrape that sites pages. Oh and make sure the links have the lowest amount of outbound links as possible. The less the page is spammed, the better.
     
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  6. Moggy

    Moggy Registered Member

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    The other way you could do this, is to do a 'reverse linkwheel'.

    Your homepage in the middle, which links to all posts. Then post #1 links to post #2, post #2 links to post #3, etc
     
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  7. MikeLac

    MikeLac Regular Member

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    Thanks for the replies everyone!

    I was never sure if it was the main domains PR that counted or the actual url of the page itself.

    I just finished creating my Money Site after I have already created my other sites. I've been linking between them all. I'll have to look at the way I am inter linking the sites. All of my sites are ranking at the top of page 1 on Google for my targeted keyword phrase with hardly any backlinking done. But my main money site is going after a highly competitive keyword phrase and I'll definitely need to work on getting high quality backlinks. My money site isn't listed in Google yet. Just finished it 12 hours ago and Google has visited not too long ago. So, it should appear in the index within the next day or 2. :)
     
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    Moggy Registered Member

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    No problem mate.

    So these sites that are at the top of page one, how old are they?
    Also, are they actually #1?

    Whatever you do follow these simple rules:
    1. Dont backlink to your money site too quickly and keep the number randomised (for example, 10 a day for a few days, then jump to 30 for a couple of days, then lower to 27 for a few, then 43 for a few more, etc).
    2. Make sure your wheel is spread across different servers with different IP's otherwise the whole thing is pointless.
    3. Dont do a standard (old fashioned) linkwheel like I mentioned above. Randomise it to throw big G off the scent, including forum postings even though it has no PR juice (people 'talk' about popular/interesting sites) and random outbound links. Yes you loose a bit of juice, but if the whole lot gets taken down your screwed.
    4. Finally, dont 'close' your linkwheel (so technically not a wheel anymore lol). Google has caught on and know a traditional wheel. By this I mean dont link the last site back to the first.

    Unfortunately, linkwheels arent as powerful as they once were because by using outbound linking and not closing the loop you are loosing a lot of 'link juice'. You just need to think about it + put more effort in to counteract it, but they are still worth it.
     
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  9. MikeLac

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    I am working on the digital camera niche. Targeting a specific brand. I have only created 6 sites so far. 5 of the sites each target a specific model number. They are all #2 in the results for my targeted keyword. 2 of the sites are about a month and a half old. 2 sites are about a month old. 1 site is about 2 weeks old. My money site is less than 1 week old. Each of the 5 sites (except for the money site) reached the #2 position within a week of creation and have stayed there. The keywords are low traffic. My main money site is for the main brand name. If I could get that to number 1 or 2, I'd get a ton of traffic! Yesterday, Google got all of the pages of my money site (except for 1) in the index.

    Thanks for the info! :cool:
     
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  10. sousen

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    You will get Pr juice from the page where you make comment not the domin Pr it wil show you on the post page so you will get 0