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Question about domains for PBN

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by chokho, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. chokho

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    Hi guys,
    I've already bought 10 domains and am about to buy another 12 but I have a problem.
    I've asked that here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/677448-ask-me-anything-about-pbn-3.html
    but didn't get answer so will copy the question(s).

    I'm building a PB network, have searched and picked 12 domains with good backlink profiles, 35+ PA & DA but most of them have backlinks from chinese sites with chinese anchor texts. Does that matter when I want to build PBN which will help me rank websites in American Google?
    Also they have no PR and are picked from deleted domains, not expired at expireddomains.net, does that matter as well?
     
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  3. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    The answer is no. It doesn't matter that they were Chinese sites or that they have Chinese anchor text. What does matter is the quality of those links. The Chinese use Baidu and things are a bit different than over here in the world of Googlers. You have to be really careful when it comes to spam checking with former Chinese sites. I assume you translated the anchor texts and the content on the former site to make sure they were all relevant right? Most of the spammed domains I come across from foreign countries are from either Japan, China, Russia, or Thailand. Make sure these domains get indexed first before you link them back to your site.
     
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  4. meln

    meln Junior Member Premium Member

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    So deleted domains with only Chinese links? Sorry buddy but most likely those are spammed beyond repair. If they were good people would have scooped them up before they were deleted. They _may_ be workable but I wouldn't risk linking to your money domains from them. Next time go with non-deleted, non-foreign domains with spam-free links.
     
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  5. chokho

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    Thanks everyone for helpful answers.
     
  6. chokho

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    So, is it a good idea to pick domains from here? http://member.expireddomains.net/domains/godaddyexpired/

    And if there is any better source to get domains for PBN? (For under $15 each).
     
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    These domains are not fit for your PBN. Invest in some quality domains having high PR, good DA/PA metrics. Also check for fake PR and indexation issues.

    Also, analyze their backlink profile.
     
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  8. chokho

    chokho BANNED BANNED

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    So I need to pay $50+ for each domain to build a PBN? (My niche/keyword isn't competitive)

    And what happens to Godaddy expired domains if they aren't sold on auction?
     
  9. twilightofidols

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    No you don't need to do this. Search the xenu/scrapebox method for finding expired domains. Then figure out your own twist to make the method your own. Success in IM is so much more than finding a tutorial online and following step by step. The secret is to seek inspiration from other people's methods, find new loop holes, discover a better way, make it your own, milk the crap out of it for as long as you can.

    Some guys have spent thousands of dollars on building custom tools to find these domains, other guys like me have found inventive new ways to scrape with SEO tools that allows me to find domains that 90% of people miss.

    There is a pretty big learning curve when it comes to doing this right. Believe me I bought quite a few crap domains myself.

    You can of course pay $50-$500 or what ever the going price is of auction domains. So many guys are bidding on these domains when domains with similar metrics can be picked up for $8 hand registration if these domains could be found.

    If you want to build a powerful network fast, drop the money. If you want to really get into expired domaining and pick them up cheap start getting creative.
     
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    Thank you so much for this very usefull reply.
    I'm intresting in expired domains that aren't on auction because my partner can get them for free.
     
  12. SteveWaller

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    I'd second this - expired domains are often a more cost effective way to build your PBN. I'm one of the people that twilight talks about as I having spent thousands developing my own tool and if I wanted to I could find hundreds of domains each week and then pick and choose the best ones from this.
     
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    Here it is a chinese one PR3 just register it, only 75$ a year :D
    media365.com.cn
     
  14. allaboutdomains

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    I too have built my own tool also and find hundreds of clean domains to register each week.

    However, if you just need 10 or 20 for your PBN, I would use expireddomains, domainjawa or **********. The advantage of the latter two is that they do the spam checking so the sites contain clean domains
     
  15. chokho

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    I just wanna start with 20 domains but then I will be rising it.
    However I checked many domains on expireddomains but none of them had clean backlink profiles (apart from ones listed on Godaddy auction).
     
  16. Nolimitt

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    Why are people still buying Domains to start there own PBNs.
    Several people and myself have over 100+ sites for small charges to get links from.

    You buy a domain and weeks later its not worth anything.
    Just find someone with a deal and forget having your own.
     
  17. Peter Ngo

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    He is looking for private blog network, not public blog network.
     
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  18. jxiong2012

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    Your 100+ sites each have 100+ posts/links on them..? Wouldn't a few quality domains (50+ PA/DA) with only 1-3 OBL be stronger than those?
     
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    Because if it is not your own, you don't have any control over the quality of the network.

     
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  20. Eagle Eye

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    Don't be stupid.....why the hell do you think he wants his own network?