Question about backlinks building

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Hello guys, have a question about backlinks building and competition. Let's say we have to rank under the keyword "example", the algorithm in general looks like this:
  1. Checking SERP for this keyword;
  2. Checking top 5 competitors;
  3. Analyzing competitors' DR and backlinks profiles;
  4. Finding less authority domain with weakest backlinks profile;
  5. Fighting this domain by building more do-follow backlinks from more authority domains than his.
For example, let's say we have to overcome a page with 18 backlinks referring from 10 domains with DR 20-30
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So the questions:
  1. Should we consider only referring DOMAINS number instead of referring PAGES. In other words, to overcome the competitor with 18 backlinks from 10 domains we have to build 11 backlinks from 11 more authority domains? Or should we build 19 backlinks from 11 domains, overlapping both the number of his backlinks and referring domains?
  2. What about page authority score (Page AS in Semrush)? Is it important or do we have to look to DR only?
 
An increase in the number of referring domains is a good idea. As it makes the link profile natural and stronger too. Having too many links from the same domain will not have much impact on ranking.
 
It depends on what the search engines prefer for that specific keyword. From your example, they are favouring more referring domains. I've seen other instances, especially in e-commerce where it would be the opposite. You should always go for what the algorithm is ranking providing their quality links.
 
Should we consider only referring DOMAINS number instead of referring PAGES. In other words, to overcome the competitor with 18 backlinks from 10 domains we have to build 11 backlinks from 11 more authority domains? Or should we build 19 backlinks from 11 domains, overlapping both the number of his backlinks and referring domains?
that's how math works, but that's not how SEO math works. Theoretically, you have to build more backlinks from more unique domains, yes, but google will consider a lot more things when deciding where to rank you than RDs (although, RDs is a pretty big deal in SEO), with some of the most important ones being...

- niche (some niches are very hard to get into without a strong brand and / or deep pockets, no mater what kind of stellar content you have)
- your domain's age and trust by google vs. the domain's age and trust by google of your competitors
- the quality and optimization of the content of your competitors vs your own
- the SEO metrics (bounce rate, session duration, etc.) and user engagement with the content of the page you're trying to rank
- the speed and structure of your site (sometimes, fast, easy to navigate and clean sites do outrank more established and / or bloated sites)
- luck (sometimes google inserts randomness into their algorithms to force people to buy google ads and if you're the unlucky target of that randomness you're not gonna rank no matter what you do, I've seen an example like this few weeks ago on the forum)

and many other factors possibly, some of which only google knows. Your best option to outrank your competition comes down to 4 things IMO:

- your site is decently good (decent speed, no 404 / broken links, clean and intuitive navigation, etc)
- your content is better optimized than your competitors' content
- your site has higher authority (the DR / UR metrics invented by Ahrefs is as close to assessing a domain's authority as we can get) than your competitors (this can be achieved by building more, and better links)
- you're not hit by randomness

What about page authority score (Page AS in Semrush)? Is it important or do we have to look to DR only?
no idea what that score is since I don't use SEMrush, but... SEMrush is an important SEO tool, so I assume they're not off by much when assigning AS scores to pages. So, yeah, you should be mindful of that score, just for your own curiosity and testing purposes if for nothing else.

Strong, authoritative sites do have similar scores (AS, DR, DA, whatever you want to call those scores, although DA is pretty unreliable nowadays), so if you see the scores of several important SEO tools being similar to one another then that's usually a good indication that THAT particular site / page is pretty authoritative and hard to outrank by mere mortals and folks without big SEO budgets. Of course, I'm referring here to sites / pages with high DR / AS scores as they reflect reality better than sites / pages with low DR / AS scores. If you're seeing sites / pages with very low DR / AS scores (say, under 20 DR for example) then go for it! That's usually a sign that you can outrank that site / page with a few good links and good content optimization....
 
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1. Get Niche Related Backlinks. Avoid getting lots of backlinks from the same domain name.
2. Promote on Social media.
3. Use infographics..
4. Manual Link building and avoid using target keywords on other backlink websites.
5. Try to avoid posting your site URL publicly here or anywhere..
 
i prefer 19 backlink from 19 different domain, so you have 19 backlinks and 19 ref domain :)
 
That's a good start but it's also a gross oversimplification...

Yes you want more RDs - that is no doubt important.. you also want to look into what TYPE of backlinks the other site has (I'm not just referring to follow/no follow, type of page linked, placement location on the page, etc all las well as anchor text and relevance both page level and domain level.. granted I think most people overdo it with paranoia about relevance, but if you can establish a believable reason for site A to have encountered site b and mention them I believe that's enough.

Also there are instances where authority in itself trumps relevance (links from IBM, apple, mozilla, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.) Even a not so relevant link from them will carry further than a highly contextual relevant link from your average Joe DR 30 to 50 website

Most powerful they're always in the content in the center of the page. Deserve things like blog post and resource page links and reviews. Would be header links then sidebar and footer.. with rare exceptions profile links are almost useless other than diversity and to tie two things together...

Awesome forum and blog commenting links being completely useless or toxic is not true either. Using automated tools to blast your tier ones with those a zillion at a time is definitely harmful, but completely relevant communities and blogs with well thought out and helpful replies with irrelevant link can actually do great things for your SEO
 
The more the number of referring domains your site has, the more valuable and high ranking your site will be.
 
that's how math works, but that's not how SEO math works. Theoretically, you have to build more backlinks from more unique domains, yes, but google will consider a lot more things when deciding where to rank you than RDs (although, RDs is a pretty big deal in SEO), with some of the most important ones being...

- niche (some niches are very hard to get into without a strong brand and / or deep pockets, no mater what kind of stellar content you have)
- your domain's age and trust by google vs. the domain's age and trust by google of your competitors
- the quality and optimization of the content of your competitors vs your own
- the SEO metrics (bounce rate, session duration, etc.) and user engagement with the content of the page you're trying to rank
- the speed and structure of your site (sometimes, fast, easy to navigate and clean sites do outrank more established and / or bloated sites)
- luck (sometimes google inserts randomness into their algorithms to force people to buy google ads and if you're the unlucky target of that randomness you're not gonna rank no matter what you do, I've seen an example like this few weeks ago on the forum)

and many other factors possibly, some of which only google knows. Your best option to outrank your competition comes down to 4 things IMO:

- your site is decently good (decent speed, no 404 / broken links, clean and intuitive navigation, etc)
- your content is better optimized than your competitors' content
- your site has higher authority (the DR / UR metrics invented by Ahrefs is as close to assessing a domain's authority as we can get) than your competitors (this can be achieved by building more, and better links)
- you're not hit by randomness


no idea what that score is since I don't use SEMrush, but... SEMrush is an important SEO tool, so I assume they're not off by much when assigning AS scores to pages. So, yeah, you should be mindful of that score, just for your own curiosity and testing purposes if for nothing else.

Strong, authoritative sites do have similar scores (AS, DR, DA, whatever you want to call those scores, although DA is pretty unreliable nowadays), so if you see the scores of several important SEO tools being similar to one another then that's usually a good indication that THAT particular site / page is pretty authoritative and hard to outrank by mere mortals and folks without big SEO budgets. Of course, I'm referring here to sites / pages with high DR / AS scores as they reflect reality better than sites / pages with low DR / AS scores. If you're seeing sites / pages with very low DR / AS scores (say, under 20 DR for example) then go for it! That's usually a sign that you can outrank that site / page with a few good links and good content optimization....


may i know what do you drink to get in the zone and write like this?! respect!

Again, only partially true. A single link from a highly authoritative site = 1000 linkscfrom contextually relevant DR 10-20 sites easy

hard lesson to learn and we still get people coming here and asking about using automation tools to create shit load of garbage links for money site.

@Iezuit - you are a bit over thinking this. RD is meaningless when those sites do not have real traffic. You want backlinks from sites with real visitors and traffic. that is where it will make a difference when it comes to serp.


 
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