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Pulling The Trigger

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Vertigo0077, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Vertigo0077

    Vertigo0077 Newbie

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    Hola!

    Hey everyone. This is my first ever post. I've been a long time off an on lurker for the past 5 or so years. I'm a marketing manager for a small business that specializes in building large industrial diesel engines and parts. I manage the website (domain age 1.5 years) and all aspects of marketing with the company. We spend around $10,000 a month on Adwords and that is where the majority (90%) of where are traffic comes from. It's been very successful and I've managed to optimize those campaigns pretty well. I've written roughly 70,000 words of unique content for the website and am slowly publishing my well researched articles on cylinder head production and crankshaft production etc... out there on Ezine, PRWeb Article Base to try and boost the SEO. I'm building citations/directory listings a little bit here as well as some very limited social media. I feel like I'm stuck in 2010 strategies!

    The competition for diesel engines and parts isn't too terrible and I'm looking what do next. I'm stuck and am simply overwhelmed as everyone has a different strategy. I'm thinking of purchasing GSA. SeNuke, Ultimate Demon and trying to build backlinks that way. I did scrapebox years ago but I didn't get a much of a chance to play around with it before I changed jobs. I really want to purchase an SEO package but holy smokes there are so many out there. Which one is the best one in 2015 after penguin and panda??

    Some white hat guys say to stay away from all of those packages altogether. We are a legit business but frankly we get like 30 unique visitors a day organically vs. 600 or so using PPC. I need to do something but I don't want to hurt the business by getting us blacklisted in any form.

    I was looking at the most popular packages just have no idea what is safe in the long run for the money site. Do I do a drip campaign over a period of months?

    Can one of you guys give me some advice? I really hate asking for help but I'm lost.

    Cloaking?
    Private Blog Networks?
    Unique Proxy IPs?

    What do you recommend?
     
  2. DJPaulyD

    DJPaulyD Power Member

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    If you're looking to purchase some SEO service(s) from the BHW marketplace, all you need to do is take the time to read the reviews and then you'll clearly see which one(s) are the "best."
     
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  3. Vertigo0077

    Vertigo0077 Newbie

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    Thanks for the advice. I have looked at the reviews and all kinds of pieces of software and have compiled my research. They all have positive reviews. I guess the question I am asking is, is simply subscribing to a service the right way to go or should I learn from the bottom to do it myself with GSA? The last thing I want to do is get duped into paying for a service that will only ding the company 3 months down the road.
     
  4. pixelgrinder

    pixelgrinder Power Member

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    1. Stay away from any automated tools if you're new to SEO.
    2. Read about the fundamentals of SEO before buying anything. A majority of services offered here take advantage of people who don't know anything about SEO. Avoid seomoz, the warriorforum and anyone that says you only need content to rank.
    3. Backlinks are the most important factor to rank, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
    4. Create a plan and execute. There is no singular right way to do SEO.

    Right now, PBNs are the hot thing. Controlling the backlinks has always been the toughest part of SEO and PBNs are the solution to that.
     
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  5. mondovo

    mondovo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Just avoid automated link building tactics for a new site, it's risky and you can suffer penalties quickly. Backlinks are super important but try PBNs instead of using software that just puts links in comments of blog posts.
     
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  6. Anonoptimization

    Anonoptimization Power Member

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    I think getting links from authority sites is the safest strategy in the long run. If you're gonna go with PBN's, imo making them look like real sites and avoiding foot prints is recommended, and I wouldn't buy links from public pbn's either, that seems like something google goes over and has before.

    SEO that lasts can take some time. Sometimes analyzing competitiors websites who are ranking in the top 10 can give ideas for link oppurtunities. Get some of those plus other authority site links and that can get you on track to ranking better online. Article submission outreach to those websites can sometimes get you solid links.
     
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  7. Vertigo0077

    Vertigo0077 Newbie

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    So you guys wouldn't mess around with any of the packages that are out there? There are tons and tons of those guys out there and a lot of people who have purchased those packages.... not just noobs like myself. I guess I have a decent amount of money to spend to figure this out and don't know where to turn next.

    As far as PBN is that something I simply set up myself via GSA?? Where do I find good PBN? Do you guys suggest I purchase GSA or SeNuke or Ultimate Demon and start building links manually? Like I said I have 70,000 words of really good content I need utilize. Some of it already ranks.

    I wish there was a guide (there are some great resources out there for beginners that experts have written) that broke it down step by step:

    1. Buy XYZ Software
    2. Buy XYZ Number of Proxies for Software (look here...)
    3. Plug in Proxies to Software
    4. Start building links manually etc...
    5. Spin Content to XYZ Page

    or

    Purchase a starter package to start building links. Or hire XYZ freelancer to get you going.

    Not trying to be lazy whatsoever I'm just overwhelmed with info I suppose.
     
  8. alexel

    alexel Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    When ranking for a website that is legitimate, in this case your business (A.K.A. Your BABY)! Never do anything that can in the future shut your site down. You then have to restart the whole process of setting up a site.

    My advice to you is to try and get more involved than you already are online. Such as the basics Blog commenting, contacting webmasters for a link, social media, etc.

    You don't have enough posts to PM me, but take my Skype and message me. I can provide you a list (xx,xxx) of high quality sites in your field to comment or contact for a link, for no charge.
     
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  9. fratermaui

    fratermaui Junior Member

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    Hi,
    I hummed and harred for a long time over buying one of the SEO packages on BHW.
    First I did GSA and a few others, got some good results, but also lost a lot of those results.
    In the finish, the amount of time you spend running those dam softwares, the learning curve, the cost adds up to be way too stressful.
    My best mate had two burnouts working with GSA. In the finish I got the Jack Sparrow package, Lucy Joins Sherlock etc all from Sarkar.
    The results, 2 keywords on first position, 2 more keywords first page, and another ten all on the second page, at the top, about to make the jump to the 1st page.
    Been running it for 3 months, feel so much better now and can focus on more important stuff. We are a car rental business.
     
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  10. PaperToy

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    The best advice is for yourself to setup about 5 basic sites and do different services for each. Find out which ones worked and why. Take notes. Then learn from your mistakes and become better.
     
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  11. DeadJoe

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    1. Don't purchase SEO from here unless you know what you're doing. This is a blackhat forum. You don't want your business to tank do you? If you really want to buy SEO I'd recommend you hit up t0mmy. Tell him about your business, he knows what he is doing and works with clients who want to be in the game long term.

    2. Best thing for SEO would be to DIY. Read this: http://backlinko.com/high-quality-backlinks - That guy is very creative, if you can invest your time then follow that method and you will get pristine links.

    3. Make sure you do your keyword research (this step alone would bring your SEO costs down significant;y). There's a member here Andres1986 he is very good at KW research. Hit him up and get a custom package. He will find you true gems that are easy to rank.

    4. Once you have a decent number of links, then you can sneak in some blackhat stuff. But make sure you build your links with handwritten original content. Only build high quality PBNs (Private blog networks) just google and read about them a shit ton. If you were to outsource this step then Leith, t0mmy, reallife and d3t0x are some members on here that I would trust to build me a private network.

    5. Don't use any automated link building tools at all. You could use them on your buffers, but if you have the budget just stay away from that stuff.

    Good ever green SEO takes time, either learn to do it yourself or outsource it to someone who knows what they are doing. You need to keep adding good content just like you are right now. Make sure to optimize your pages for target keywords. You currently have 70,000 words, how many articles? The fact that you're only getting 10 views per day leads me to believe that your website is not properly optimized. Search the forum for phpbuilt's on page guide and pick easier KW's that you can include in your already posted articles and your traffic should go up.

    Good luck!
     
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  12. Vertigo0077

    Vertigo0077 Newbie

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    Hey Guys,

    I really appreciate the information and advice especially DeadJoe and Alexel. I've read a lot of newbie forums and strategies and like I said I need direction. I can't afford to wreck the business by doing something stupid. We have 13 guys and I'm a part owner trying to grow this for everyone. I can't jeopardize these guys jobs for this.

    I realized that what I need is a mentor and a long-term partner to help learn from and pay to help us grow our SEO side of the business. I'll look into t0mmy and Andres1986. Anyone else you guys can recommend who is a great SEO who would like some work? Even just to develop the foundation with me? We also have another side business we are growing from the ground up that is going to need SEO too.

    I have tons and tons of KW research of what works and what doesn't from a PPC prespective too. In our industry we have to be very granular as to not rank/pay for automotive clicks/leads. We are industrial diesel only. There are over 400 different makes and models of engines (CAT, Cummins, Detroit Diesel, Mack etc...) too and 30,000+ SKU and Casting numbers to rank for as well. Everything we sell we have to produce in a factory type of situation. So sales have to follow production without having a backlog.

    We have 124 pages on the site but the on-page optimization needs work. I'm currently going through each page and re-optimizing. The new business in 1 year old but we all came over from a 42 year old engine machine shop that went bankrupt last year. (poor ownership) A lot of the content was transferred over but we lost all of the on-page optimization. I got the old site up from 50 visitors a day to 300 went it went belly up.

    I've looked at the Jack Sparrow and the Sherlock packages as well as about 4 others I've identified on a smaller scale. I will heed everyone's advice and not purchase a package.