Proof 1st Tier Branded Entities are More Than NECESSARY

I've been screaming at people in the local realm that 1st tier branded entities are one of the most impactful things you can do in the local SEO realm right now for going on 2 years now. And I'm not talking these diversity packages you buy here where the seller 99% of the time is going to target a keyword, name your username the keyword, and post articles optimized for that keyword. Totally missing out on the 1st tier branded part of it.

YOU DO NOT WANT THESE DIVERSITY PACKAGES POINTING AT YOUR MONEY SITE UNLESS IT LOOKS LIKE A BRANDED ENTITY.
With a branded entity you can point as many links from it to your money site as you want. But it needs to look like it's owned by your brand and not a third party. A couple steps you can take:

[I'm assuming you've already done your Google drive stacking. Google properties are 1st tier entities. If you're doing local SEO and haven't built out your Google properties.... WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F&*K ARE YOU DOING?!]

1. Make sure the email you use is the same for all of them. I use a gmail. Workspace can get expensive so I don't worry about branded emails. Just using the same gmail has been fine.
2. A problem I run into with clients is us creating their properties for them. The key here is making sure the admin email for their GMB matches everything. Theres some flexibility with the route you take to get this done. Most of my clients just end up giving me temp access to their email as its easier for them and I. It's a requirement.
3. You'll want to make it the same logo file, photos used, and etc as on the website. Make it match. Any properties that sync with Google Drive should sync Google Drive to import the images into the property. You want to use your Google properties as much as possible!!! Bonus tip: You can add a comment to images and make it a link. The link gets crawled.

Well, whats the trick to Google noticing it as a branded entity of the business?

SCHEMA. sameAs schema.

List all of your branded properties in the sameAs schema on your home page. You can also take it a step further and add schema to your branded entites with iframes. Thats a little more technical. But basically you create an html file with your schema and upload that to your public html. Then simply Iframe that page in any property you can. Now, you may need to create a different one for each property because you don't want to have sameAs schema for the property your injecting it into. For instance you don't want sameAs schema showing the URL of your Google site if its being placed on the Google site. You'll want to remove the Google site url form the schema. But if I embed the schema into a press release, I'll want that google site URL in the sameAs schema. SO depending where you're iframing the schema page, you may need to create a new html page.

But don't take my word for it as far as branded entities being the whip for local.

Just look at what Google is doing.

https://searchengineland.com/google-business-profiles-to-let-you-manage-your-social-links-430766

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The reason I want to use a Gmail, is because most sites have the "Login with Google" button. I want to use that so these sites show up in the connected apps of the Google account that is attached to the GMB.

coolsheet said:

But don't take my word for it as far as branded entities being the whip for local.

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Many doubts arise, here just some, I could seriously say that I could not understand almost a word on what you wrote.

Google Drive stacking what is this?

I'm going to dissect it:
Google Drive: Since we are talking about properties, I assume that means sharing docs in Google Drive publicly
Stacking: when you link from one to another on wheel.
So I assume that Google Drive stacking is creating some Google Docs with links, blasting them and stacking a couple of them, linking one from each other?

If this is right, how this can have anything to do with GMB? May I assume that some of this docs are linking to your entity?

Moreover, what means "a branded entity"?

I assume that we call an entity as a unit in Googy knowledge graph
Branded, I assume that means, putting your brand in that unit.
So branded entity, I assume that you mean putting your brand in the GMB name and then, shoot branded anchors?

Which other "branded entities" could you be talking about apart from from the GMB?

Seriously, I love reading GMB ideas that pop everywhere. But for me, they don't make sense most of the times, because I feel that words are randomly created, like a jargon, by those gangsters like Merlino with GMB FB groups which try to popularize them (but I cannot read them anywhere else, forums or other SEO places and in my language they are not used by any means!). I try to read like 2 hours per week on this topic, but I always fall apart with such jargon

SirLouen said:

Many doubts arise, here just some, I could seriously say that I could not understand almost a word on what you wrote.

Google Drive stacking what is this?

I'm going to dissect it:
Google Drive: Since we are talking about properties, I assume that means sharing docs in Google Drive publicly
Stacking: when you link from one to another on wheel.
So I assume that Google Drive stacking is creating some Google Docs with links, blasting them and stacking a couple of them, linking one from each other?

If this is right, how this can have anything to do with GMB? May I assume that some of this docs are linking to your entity?

Moreover, what means "a branded entity"?

I assume that we call an entity as a unit in Googy knowledge graph
Branded, I assume that means, putting your brand in that unit.
So branded entity, I assume that you mean putting your brand in the GMB name and then, shoot branded anchors?

Which other "branded entities" could you be talking about apart from from the GMB?

Seriously, I love reading GMB ideas that pop everywhere. But for me, they don't make sense most of the times, because I feel that words are randomly created, like a jargon, by those gangsters like Merlino with GMB FB groups which try to popularize them (but I cannot read them anywhere else, forums or other SEO places and in my language they are not used by any means!). I try to read like 2 hours per week on this topic, but I always fall apart with such jargon

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So Google Drve Stacking is a whole other topic and something you should look into. Plenty of videos out there on that. But basically your utilizing all Google properties available to you to interlink them passing authority and relevancy throuhg each page in the stack. Google sites, sheets, docs, slides, calendars, forms, etc etc. All of it indexes. Embed them in a G site. Blast with PBNs. Easy and legit way to gain some authority. Then also stack on top of that creating more docs, sheets, slides, or whatever that links to the previous one's you've created. Stacks on stacks. Theres no science to this really. FOr example I could stack a slide. Slide > link to slide in google doc > link to google doc from sheet > embed sheet in G site > blast G site with links. This is just one example but you can stack in any way you think of.

Branded entites would be any of your entities you own on the web. Basically social, web 2's, and other profiles that represent the brand. A simple example would be a companies Facebook page. If you have a company named "A-1 Moving Company" your Facebook page is not going to be named some ridiculous keyword like "Best Moving Company Los Angeles". It's going to be the name of your brand. Making it a branded entity.

Make sense?

Google is now adding the ability, upon request, to add and edit your branded properties in GBP. Displaying they value branded entities.

coolsheet said:

Google is now adding the ability, upon request, to add and edit your branded properties in GBP. Displaying they value branded entities.

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This is somewhat I was thinking about, the Mr.G properties interlinking or "stacking" like the gangstas like to say is after all a way of parasiting and I always amazed that you find value on it. Personally I've never found value on Google properties, but I've never done too much effort compared to any other similar parasite or any other 2.0 property

But what it's weird for me is the branded enities like you call them. Imagine that I generate 100 branded 2.0. Would you set all 100 in the sameAs in your site? I know that the mobs like big guns, but it feels too much for me nowadays that I'm trying to fly as low as possible

Who knows, like I've always said, GMB from an algo perspective seems to be on the 2015s compared to where Googy Search is nowadays, so maybe these hacky solutions could work.

SirLouen said:

This is somewhat I was thinking about, the Mr.G properties interlinking or "stacking" like the gangstas like to say is after all a way of parasiting and I always amazed that you find value on it. Personally I've never found value on Google properties, but I've never done too much effort compared to any other similar parasite or any other 2.0 property

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Well I always say the best practice is actually looking for it

Run the URL "sites.google.com" through any SEO software that will aloow you to analyze competitor domains. They rank very well. I probably shouldn't be saying this on BHW lol. In the screenshot below you'll see sites ranking for longtails like "how to date a coca cola cooler" or "unblocked" or "best earbuds for chromebook". (Yes all you parasite people should be loving this lol)

This should open your eyes to what people are doing with these Google entities.



Here's some more gold. Type "Google entity stack" into Google and look at what the first ranking result is. Then analyze its backlink profile and tell me what you see

SirLouen said:

But what it's weird for me is the branded enities like you call them. Imagine that I generate 100 branded 2.0. Would you set all 100 in the sameAs in your site? I know that the mobs like big guns, but it feels too much for me nowadays that I'm trying to fly as low as possible

Who knows, like I've always said, GMB from an algo perspective seems to be on the 2015s compared to where Googy Search is nowadays, so maybe these hacky solutions could work.

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Yeah I'm not doing 100 web 2.0s. Not for local clients. Not sure why any one would do that many 2.0s on 1st tier. For local I do maybe 3-5 web 2.0s and although I'm using seed content on these and populating them with 3 manually written articles, the rest is a mix of RSS feeds. Rss feeds from branded entites and niche relevant sources. The rest are social media, classifieds like Storeboard and Patch, and then niche specific (forums, google message boards, some niche specific social depending on the niche). Between all of the entities theres usually about 50-70 in total. Then Im doing personas to share that content with Zapier. These personas would be on 2nd tier. I don't do the typical IFTTT syndication networks you see on gig sites. I make my personas look more legit and only set up a couple of the main social networks for those. But this is beside the point as I'm obviously not adding these to the Schema. But I'm mentioning it because when it comes to abusing profiles with links, or 100 web 2's, this is were I would do it. Not on 1st tier.

coolsheet said:

. But this is beside the point as I'm obviously not adding these to the Schema. But I'm mentioning it because when it comes to abusing profiles with links, or 100 web 2's, this is were I would do it. Not on 1st tier.

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So you basically yo do around 5 branded sameas, and then the typical branded citations and mentions all over the place, which is the usual way to proceed.

But what I was saying, is that I'm not 100% convince that G Stacking by itself, gives authority to other sites, despite it could hold power by itself. I don't know if you understand what I'm suggesting. I feel that since Goog is so aware of linkbuilding strategies, letting them be used for this doesn't make much sense, but letting them rank it's not the same. So I have seen G Drive docs ranking, and obviously Goog sites ranking (in fact I don't remember which, something like "web design in New York", there was a G Site ranking top 5 with an omega-shit site overly stuffed with keywords which was really weird for such extremely competitive keyword.

But who knows, AFAIK I've lived over the last years multiple times, strange situations when suddenly for a couple of months people were doing crazy things that work really well (like ultra-stuffing a site out of sudden and ranking #1 because probably someone noticed that for a short period of time certain types of stuffing were being bypassed by Goog, probably due to a coding issue).

Here we are talking about two things: branded entities and G stacking. Not necessarily correlated although I assume that one of your "branded entities" will always be 100% for sure, a Goog site (in fact, there is a placeholder Goog site when you don't set your website on GMB but still you opt for it), so to some extent Googy suggest that you should be doing such.

By the way, in the last month, I saw those Local SEO gurus (aka gangstas) were obsessed with the branded topics. Like focusing a ton on branded CTR and all that things. So probably your point goes around this, the idea that probably a new "contextual & branded authority" could rise as a major ranking factor (instead of the classic topical authority). Makes a lot of sense to me, but still I have some doubts on the later (G stacking). I definitely need to do further testing on this (luckily is cheap), to see how powerful could it be compared to 2.0 in general (not for rankign by itself, but for throwing authority).

SirLouen said:

So you basically yo do around 5 branded sameas, and then the typical branded citations and mentions all over the place, which is the usual way to proceed.

But what I was saying, is that I'm not 100% convince that G Stacking by itself, gives authority to other sites, despite it could hold power by itself. I don't know if you understand what I'm suggesting. I feel that since Goog is so aware of linkbuilding strategies, letting them be used for this doesn't make much sense, but letting them rank it's not the same. So I have seen G Drive docs ranking, and obviously Goog sites ranking (in fact I don't remember which, something like "web design in New York", there was a G Site ranking top 5 with an omega-shit site overly stuffed with keywords which was really weird for such extremely competitive keyword.

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I'm never doing anything by itself. For example the g stacks are getting tiered with all sorts of stuff. PR, PBNs, podcasts, and wherever I can embed. The more nodes I can connect and the tiers deeper I can go the better.

And I'm not adding all of the Google entities in the Drive stack to the schema. Sorry, my original comment may have been confusing as it was slightly off topic when I said "If you're not doing Google Drive stacking..." in the OP. With a proper Google drive stack you're going to have a Google site. The Google site is the only branded entity here. So it's the only thing I'm adding to my sameAs schema.

And they definitely pass authority and relevance. As said look at what the first ranking result for "Google entity stack" is. Then look at his backlinks. Mainly g drive stacking. If you follow the rabbit hole, it's a guy Klemen who's in a lot of the SEO groups I'm in, and dude knows his stuff. He's huge on drive stacking. Another guy to check out is Brian Kato. Ranks shit with Google sheet stacking. When you're focusing on topical clustering and ranking long tails, these drive stacks definitely help for local.

SirLouen said:

But who knows, AFAIK I've lived over the last years multiple times, strange situations when suddenly for a couple of months people were doing crazy things that work really well (like ultra-stuffing a site out of sudden and ranking #1 because probably someone noticed that for a short period of time certain types of stuffing were being bypassed by Goog, probably due to a coding issue).

By the way, in the last month, I saw those Local SEO gurus (aka gangstas) were obsessed with the branded topics. Like focusing a ton on branded CTR and all that things. So probably your point goes around this, the idea that probably a new "contextual & branded authority" could rise as a major ranking factor (instead of the classic topical authority). Makes a lot of sense to me, but still I have some doubts on the later (G stacking). I definitely need to do further testing on this (luckily is cheap), to see how powerful could it be compared to 2.0 in general (not for rankign by itself, but for throwing authority).

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I've been doing drive stacking for years not just a couple months.

Its been like the past year or so with the branded traffic bs. Mike Merlino put out a course on Branded CTR. Right after that it was pretty much patched. Well CTR tools were patched. My referral traffic with any CTR tool wasn't showing in analytics any longer and the impact it was having completely fell off. Honestly, fuck what any of these gurus have to say right now. It's kinda how it's always been. They use the method until they start seeing differences in results. Then they sell it and it gets patched. Looks like Mike made about $200k selling that course judging from the members in the private group. Selling a method he probably knew was on its way out, or at least knew creating the course would get it patched to some degree.

I work on ways to drive real traffic for CTR purposes nowadays.

I remember making a post about CTR in SEO Signals Lab 6 years ago and being laughed at for it.

Same is happening with branded entities. Is everyone of these gurus creating these so called branded entities for CTR purposes? Yep. But they're doing it wrong and completely missing the branding part and destroying it with the fake traffic.

Look at EEAT for example. Google has been telling us they're moving more towards big brands. We need to look and be the best we can. No more creating social media profiles and not managing them. No more not having an author (that also need EEAT) and a blog on your site. No more thin web 2's. And basically no more not managing ALL of your profiles. How do you have experience and expertise in something if you aren't branded across the web? Thats basically the way I see Google looking at it.

coolsheet said:

How do you have experience and expertise in something if you aren't branded across the web? Thats basically the way I see Google looking at it.

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Yeah, so basically most of the GMB practices seems to be colliding with regular SEO practices to some extent specially when we look in to the Knowgraph entity. I've also seen this on YT practices consider that a massive amount of visits to YT come from regular search.

But with Maps things go very different. After all people look for example for "bakery" on their local maps, and proximity most of the times is like 99% of the power that relies on the result I observe from my devices.

So I have a hate & love relationship with GMB overall, firstly because I work for example 300 or 400km away from my client, which sees an entirely different GMB than I do in a very specific geo-localized point that even spoofing doesn't report the exact same data. Secondly because I cannot see any value, when most of the times, the new guy in the city with only 5 reviews, appears over them for many reasons apart from optimization itself (proximity for example). Still, I understand that my client could want to rank for bakeries near me top #1 with his bakery home in the local area (here is were SEO takes place), but it feels almost out of control when we drill it down exclusively to the Maps app.

Ultimately I'm only offering the SEO service and some reputation addons (which include the branding part as we are talking here), and I cannot care less about Maps by itself. Personally guys like Merlino are magicians, a love to pull out all those nice tricks were you can get to #1 in certain area, if you lock in many conditions that fulfil them. But then, one guy in such area, under slightly different conditions will trigger a subset of results completely different. It's not like regular SEO where results are kinda of more stable (not even stable at all nowadays, except for certain informational/evergreen pages).

So I think that all this are the reasons of why one should become a gangsta to become a real deal on GMB selling 99% bullshit and conversation to convince the clients and 1% real technical affairs. When I think on this, it always come to my mind that old GringoMonkey technique (I think it was from him), where he built a keyword with GAds and then went to the client's place and friendly coerce the potential client to drop the rank if he did not work with him. In GMB is not that simple because of all that variability, and if the client is obtrusive, he will be perma-pinging the queries to see that you randomly rank on his Maps.

So I hope that by the end of the year I can find some kind of real and more stable framework to sell. Because this is me when the GMB topic rises with my client convos.

SirLouen said:

Yeah, so basically most of the GMB practices seems to be colliding with regular SEO practices to some extent specially when we look in to the Knowgraph entity. I've also seen this on YT practices consider that a massive amount of visits to YT come from regular search.

But with Maps things go very different. After all people look for example for "bakery" on their local maps, and proximity most of the times is like 99% of the power that relies on the result I observe from my devices.

So I have a hate & love relationship with GMB overall, firstly because I work for example 300 or 400km away from my client, which sees an entirely different GMB than I do in a very specific geo-localized point that even spoofing doesn't report the exact same data. Secondly because I cannot see any value, when most of the times, the new guy in the city with only 5 reviews, appears over them for many reasons apart from optimization itself (proximity for example). Still, I understand that my client could want to rank for bakeries near me top #1 with his bakery home in the local area (here is were SEO takes place), but it feels almost out of control when we drill it down exclusively to the Maps app.

Ultimately I'm only offering the SEO service and some reputation addons (which include the branding part as we are talking here), and I cannot care less about Maps by itself. Personally guys like Merlino are magicians, a love to pull out all those nice tricks were you can get to #1 in certain area, if you lock in many conditions that fulfil them. But then, one guy in such area, under slightly different conditions will trigger a subset of results completely different. It's not like regular SEO where results are kinda of more stable (not even stable at all nowadays, except for certain informational/evergreen pages).

So I think that all this are the reasons of why one should become a gangsta to become a real deal on GMB selling 99% bullshit and conversation to convince the clients and 1% real technical affairs. When I think on this, it always come to my mind that old GringoMonkey technique (I think it was from him), where he built a keyword with GAds and then went to the client's place and friendly coerce the potential client to drop the rank if he did not work with him. In GMB is not that simple because of all that variability, and if the client is obtrusive, he will be perma-pinging the queries to see that you randomly rank on his Maps.

So I hope that by the end of the year I can find some kind of real and more stable framework to sell. Because this is me when the GMB topic rises with my client convos.

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Honestly what Im seeing work the best is focusing on EEAT. Seriously. Content and authorship. But as said Im not only doing that. Im embedding podcasts and making a video with almost every article. Sharing that across multiple places. Stacking the podcasts. Then embedding the top of the stack into a PR. And so many other things. It really does take a lot to get the needle moving. I remember I did a post here a few years ago where CTR with mass page sites shot my clients grid ranking through the roof for the entire state of California. Miss that. Was easy. Made quick money. Promising results and giving a time frame is almost impossible now. BUT I can promise increase in calls. Even if I have to use some of the budget and run some ads in the beginning.

I think as SEOs we tend to focus on ranking too much, when the customer just wants calls and leads.

Also are you using a grid ranking software like Local Viking? I use Local Viking and its pretty accurate at telling me my clients ranking states away from me, as well as the ranking of all comp in the grid.

coolsheet said:

Also are you using a grid ranking software like Local Viking? I use Local Viking and its pretty accurate at telling me my clients ranking states away from me, as well as the ranking of all comp in the grid.

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One of the first guides I read was that with all those refs to G patents. I think one of the things I fail more, is setting a baseline. Say that or whatever other rank tracker, even for SEO
Because people tend to check multiple ways, and sometimes it's complex to evaluate the progress if you don't stick to one and only one tool (btw Local Viking can be biased AF because they ultimately always check with the same params. You can triangulate their approximate geo-position, and set the property to focus such position (for example a street or a neighbourhood). You will be deceiving your client like mad but the numbers will grow up

coolsheet said:

I think as SEOs we tend to focus on ranking too much, when the customer just wants calls and leads.

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This is kind of weird, because you can also fake it too much specially in GMB. Leads is what everyone wants... but they are sometimes so away from our control (dpending on the degree of control your client offers, you, from not touching the site a single milimiter, to giving full admin of all the digital properties).

Personally I would never hire a GMB guy for my business, because I personally don't believe nowadays in that work. I seriously think that I would be simply hiring a guy selling me 24/7 his grandpa old motorbike

SirLouen said:

(btw Local Viking can be biased AF because they ultimately always check with the same params. You can triangulate their approximate geo-position, and set the property to focus such position (for example a street or a neighbourhood). You will be deceiving your client like mad but the numbers will grow up

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Yeah I definitely hear you. And many people do shady practices in our industry it's no secret. They don't last though. And they ruin SEO and burn their clients. See lots of posts in SEO groups on the web of people complaining about this. And its just nonsense. The client is going to know that these ranking increases they're reporting on aren't legit when the dollars aren't coming in. Increase in rev is what they're hiring us for. Thats what needs to be delivered. Thats what I deliver. I don't ever promise a timeframe though. And I don't ever promise specific ranking. I promise increases in maps traffic and overall ranking. But saying "I'll rank you for this keyword in this amount of time" is nonsense.

The worst is when SEOs/agencies focus on keywords that don't actually bring in money or understand the difference between transactional, commercial, and informational searches. Big forehead slap.

And anyone doing local SEO should be using UTM trackers for your GMB to show proof of work in search console. And obviously pull up the Source, medium, or whatever in analytics and make comparisons. I can show my client real traffic increases in search console and analytics on their GMB if I use a UTM tracker as it will show up under the "Pages" tab in Performance. I think its good practice to use UTM trackers for all of your 1st tier properties or anywhere you're driving traffic for a client.

SirLouen said:

This is kind of weird, because you can also fake it too much specially in GMB. Leads is what everyone wants... but they are sometimes so away from our control (dpending on the degree of control your client offers, you, from not touching the site a single milimiter, to giving full admin of all the digital properties).

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As an SEO I believe its my job to guide them on that. Analyze that process. If they're not willing to fully let me be hands on in the process and evaluate everything, then

coolsheet said:

The worst is when SEOs/agencies focus on keywords that don't actually bring in money or understand the difference between transactional, commercial, and informational searches. Big forehead slap.

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I always found another hindrance: driving visits in general, it's always like a good ego boost for everyone, not going to lie. So basically all those super-targeted transactional keywords, on my experience, specially for local, have 0-10-20 visits per month. So yes, if you go #1 for one of those you are probably going to get 50% of that traffic which, with a good lander, you will get like 50% of the leads contacting you, which means a 25% CPA translated in CPC for that positioning.

But on the other side, your competition is going to suggest an increase in 10K visits/mo, regardless they are going to be targeting the top "10 best cakes for your wedding", instead of "vegan bakery bloomington in".

coolsheet said:

As an SEO I believe its my job to guide them on that. Analyze that process. If they're not willing to fully let me be hands on in the process and evaluate everything, then

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That moment, when you have to take the whole fricking marketing bull by the horns. And I wonder: are they paying me for SEO or paying me for being their marketing manager for half the price they would pay one, with the excuse I'm the SEO guy? This is why nowadays i barely work with clients and I tend to move away when I hear the word GMB and Maps. I'm sure a ton of guys will be super-happy to work with them, because as I've pointed in the beginning people are plain happy with just an ego-boost and a ton of daily-selling the thing. So ultimately it becomes more of a gangsta business than a technical business (which was the main reason I started here)

SirLouen said:

That moment, when you have to take the whole fricking marketing bull by the horns. And I wonder: are they paying me for SEO or paying me for being their marketing manager for half the price they would pay one, with the excuse I'm the SEO guy? This is why nowadays i barely work with clients and I tend to move away when I hear the word GMB and Maps. I'm sure a ton of guys will be super-happy to work with them, because as I've pointed in the beginning people are plain happy with just an ego-boost and a ton of daily-selling the thing. So ultimately it becomes more of a gangsta business than a technical business (which was the main reason I started here)

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Yup, it's why a lot of people are getting out of it. It's why I'm about to start taking classes on pesticide application. It's an easy physical business to run, train, and hire for. Many of the big SEOs have announced their retirement. It's for a reason. It's getting tougher getting results for clients.

But I will say this. The handful of clients that are with me have stayed with me for years. Because I make them money. And some of them already had their processes for closing leads tight. So in the beginning yes its a lot of work getting them on track sometimes. And yes it sucks when you do that and they skip out on their bill and cancel service after 2 months. But it's worth the one's that stay on board. As they say, the cost of doing business. I've taken some risks man. The biggest taking on a cancer treatment facility with a $20k budget who wanted to be on a Net 60. And I was a new marketer. Imagine hearing you need to get results with a $20k budget but wont get paid for 2 months. I went through 8 sticks of deoderant in 2 months. Sweating bullets.

coolsheet said:

Yup, it's why a lot of people are getting out of it. It's why I'm about to start taking classes on pesticide application

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You have to have an iron gut, but definitely is very profitable, and ranking for this kind of profitable niche is not the hardest in many places, recently $300 I had to shoot for barely 1.5h of work, and in terms of consumables, not more than $20-30 spent by the guy (the can of smoke and a bottle of spray)

coolsheet said:

Many of the big SEOs have announced their retirement. It's for a reason

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Yes I'm also observing this. I thought that was only my impression.

There was a time when many algos were realistic to be cracked. But currently things are very turbulent and GMB it's not my preference, but it's true that more and more people are asking for this (And more people are scamming like mad). Like this guy in the forum charging like $2K/mo only for workforce on SEO, no linkbuilding, only purely content, not even AI massive generated farms. Guys that are playing with weapons from 2 or 3 years ago. Let's see how it evolves for this end of 2023.

coolsheet said:

Many of the big SEOs have announced their retirement. It's for a reason. It's getting tougher getting results for clients.

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What big SEOs have retired?

And what are they doing now?

coolsheet said:

****SOMETHING TO ADD THAT I MISSED IN THE OP

The reason I want to use a Gmail, is because most sites have the "Login with Google" button. I want to use that so these sites show up in the connected apps of the Google account that is attached to the GMB.

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Appreciate your post! Is it possible to hire you?

homeriscool said:

What big SEOs have retired?

And what are they doing now?

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Courses...

I'm joking but a lot of truth is said in jest.

A lot are releasing various SAAS and digital assets for agencies.

So I guess not so much leaving SEO, but leaving the agency stuff.

Good thread! Thanks for the value

Just started doing this. Would it be okay to add the google site in GSC and request for indexing? If I am to blast links in hopes of getting the properties indexed, do I send those links to the sameas entity g sites? Or do I send it to the g sites that contains the stack?

Was researching a competitor and found this as one of their backlinks.

Also for web 2.0, can I use those site builders like yola, mystringkly, wordpress, etc and then do iFrame embeds for the GBP map?

Honestly, I'm just starting with SEO. Most of my knowledge are coming here and youtube.