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Programmingonline scammed me

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Pornguy, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Pornguy

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    Programmingonline has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

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    Wow I think your right, this guys just is creating accounts and scamming people. On a side note I also got scammed by The Willow during this same time I paid him via wire transfer so I really can't get it back. I guess i'm just too trusting. Just wanted to post that so other people can beware of The Willow also.
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    Programmingonline was given more than enough time to respond - Permabanned

    @Pornguy - if you are going to accuse The Willow of scamming, you are REQUIRED to post the proof. So either post the proof or I will will remove the accusation.

  6. Pornguy

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    Here is the chat log of The Willow on Skype but he changed his name recently so its different than it started.

    Here is a copy of the PM he sent me.
    "Add my skype lets talk

    my skypes

    Then he must have changed his name on skype to Julian somewhere between then and now. And now he blocked me on skype so I cannot contact him any more.
    I know I must sound like an idiot for paying some of the cost up front to these people, but I have had good results in the past. Never again. Hope nobody else gets scammed like me. Thanks.

    [3/1/2016 3:45:25 PM] I-CAMZ: Hey it pornguy from BHW[3/1/2016 3:45:41 PM] *** Julian has shared contact details with I-CAMZ. ***
    [3/1/2016 3:45:49 PM] Julian: Hi bhw?
    [3/1/2016 3:45:53 PM] I-CAMZ: yes
    [3/1/2016 3:46:08 PM] I-CAMZ: pornguy is my screenname
    [3/1/2016 3:46:16 PM] I-CAMZ: So do you make bots?
    [3/1/2016 3:46:20 PM] I-CAMZ: or?
    [3/1/2016 3:46:51 PM] Julian: I do im an experienced bot coder
    [3/1/2016 3:47:02 PM] Julian: I code 5assembly languages
    [3/1/2016 3:47:02 PM] I-CAMZ: Great
    [3/1/2016 3:47:15 PM] Julian: so u want a bot to spread on skype
    [3/1/2016 3:47:23 PM] Julian: or just message contacts you add to to the bot
    [3/1/2016 3:47:32 PM] Julian: and u want a harvester on it or?
    [3/1/2016 3:48:13 PM] I-CAMZ: I want a set it and forget it bot.   I just want to set proxies, and run it on a windows vps server.
    [3/1/2016 3:48:25 PM] I-CAMZ: Here is what I want basically
    [3/1/2016 3:48:53 PM] I-CAMZ: [2/28/2016 1:37:54 PM] roxanne.rtm: xoxo hi
    [2/28/2016 1:38:04 PM] I-CAMZ: hi?
    [2/28/2016 1:38:38 PM] roxanne.rtm: well i just got out of the shower, u sound nice lets have sum fun...
    [2/28/2016 1:38:52 PM] I-CAMZ: What cam site are you on?
    [2/28/2016 1:39:17 PM] roxanne.rtm: Accept the invite, if you need the link again its http://oMFeCImr.casualinvite.com/?invite=ea200fc8
    [2/28/2016 1:54:18 PM] roxanne.rtm: Heeellllooo???
    [2/28/2016 1:55:07 PM] I-CAMZ: Who created this bot?  I'm looking to make one just like this
    [2/28/2016 1:56:36 PM] roxanne.rtm: if i was a bot ..why would i be wearing this hat?? lolz
    [2/28/2016 1:57:28 PM] I-CAMZ: Prove it?
    [2/28/2016 1:58:15 PM] roxanne.rtm: my cam is turned on.. . wanna take a peek? Ill show ya but dont tell any one, ok?
    [2/29/2016 9:06:27 PM] roxanne.rtm: :-)
    [3/1/2016 3:48:54 PM] Julian: yeah I understand what you want but to set and leave your going to want a hugeeee list of Skype usernames
    [3/1/2016 3:49:33 PM] I-CAMZ: How can I make a list of Skype usernames?
    [3/1/2016 3:50:27 PM] Julian: spreader which basically infects the user... but that's kinda illegal
    [3/1/2016 3:50:32 PM] Julian: other option is harvest them
    [3/1/2016 3:50:49 PM] Julian: from the Skype public directory
    [3/1/2016 3:51:00 PM] I-CAMZ: If I get an offshore hosting can I still get arrested for illegal stuff?
    [3/1/2016 3:51:29 PM] Julian: well infect basically does this
    [3/1/2016 3:51:39 PM] I-CAMZ: I have a few cam sites and I have an old friend that used to run like 10 servers blasting yahoo and aim with stuff like this and get like 5 sign ups per minute, he had a list of like 2 million users.
    [3/1/2016 3:51:52 PM] Julian: lets the infected user send an invisible message on Skype to contacts
    [3/1/2016 3:52:01 PM] Julian: to the download link
    [3/1/2016 3:52:07 PM] Julian: of where they got infected ^^
    [3/1/2016 3:52:20 PM] Julian: then once u got say 20k - 50k skypes
    [3/1/2016 3:52:24 PM] Julian: u could change message
    [3/1/2016 3:52:28 PM] Julian: to your site or w/e
    [3/1/2016 3:53:02 PM] I-CAMZ: Yeah that sounds cool.
    [3/1/2016 3:53:30 PM] Julian: spreaders relatively easy I already have an existing source
    [3/1/2016 3:53:39 PM] Julian: someone made one in vb lol
    [3/1/2016 3:54:24 PM] Julian: but the actual bot and harvester would be c+
    [3/1/2016 3:56:59 PM] I-CAMZ: Ok,  so what would you charge me to build this?  And do you think Skype or yahoo or aim is best? Or add support for multiple?
    [3/1/2016 3:57:24 PM] Julian: I mean more people are using Skype these days
    [3/1/2016 3:57:32 PM] Julian: a lot of people are concentrating on whats app at the moment
    [3/1/2016 3:57:38 PM] Julian: skypes still huge though.
    [3/1/2016 4:00:08 PM] Julian: pricing for spreader would be say 150 the bot hard to say how long it would take to finish but around 400 - 600
    [3/1/2016 4:00:15 PM] Julian: so at least 500
    [3/1/2016 4:01:13 PM] I-CAMZ: Never used what's app. Is that the new thing? Is it easy to create new accounts? How fast will accounts and proxies get banned?
    [3/1/2016 4:03:09 PM] Julian: whats app is for mobiles.
    [3/1/2016 4:03:18 PM] Julian: big messenging service owned by facebook
    [3/1/2016 4:03:34 PM] Julian: whats app u need tokens
    [3/1/2016 4:03:36 PM] Julian: and channels
    [3/1/2016 4:03:49 PM] Julian: to broadcast to whats app mobile numbers.
    [3/1/2016 4:08:27 PM] Julian: so shall we get started.
    [3/1/2016 4:12:15 PM] I-CAMZ: Yeah let's do it.
    [3/1/2016 4:19:53 PM] I-CAMZ: Pay when completed or ?
    [3/1/2016 4:33:26 PM] Julian: working out how long its going to take to code how long u on for
    [3/1/2016 4:33:59 PM] I-CAMZ: I'm on my phone let me know anytime.
    [3/1/2016 4:39:28 PM] Julian: I would like about 2 weeks to code it If that's ok
    [3/1/2016 4:39:48 PM] Julian: and I would want a deposit
    [3/1/2016 4:44:40 PM] I-CAMZ: OK sure. How much? And what payment method.
    [3/1/2016 4:45:30 PM] I-CAMZ: If this works good I will have lots more work for you also.
    [3/1/2016 4:46:07 PM] Julian: 200? that's less than 50% I think that's fair just in case u disappear after a week or something least I have something for my time
    [3/1/2016 4:47:07 PM] I-CAMZ: OK that is fair. I just hope you don't disappear. I have had freelancers do it.
    [3/1/2016 4:47:33 PM] Julian: don't worry I enjoy coding and this is something I want to make so I wont be going anywhere
    [3/1/2016 4:47:47 PM] I-CAMZ: Good
    [3/1/2016 4:47:48 PM] Julian: but I hear you on the people disappearing I ordered some facebook likes for my friends business
    [3/1/2016 4:47:56 PM] Julian: guy disappeared never to be seen again haha
    [3/1/2016 4:48:33 PM] I-CAMZ: Lol
    [3/1/2016 4:49:47 PM] Julian: Would bitcoin be ok rather than paypal recently my paypal payments have been going under review for some reason just means I have to wait longer
    [3/1/2016 4:49:55 PM] Julian: its entirely up to you
    [3/1/2016 4:50:48 PM] I-CAMZ: How can I buy or transfer bitcoin?    My PayPal is messed up too.
    [3/1/2016 4:51:07 PM] Julian: www.localbitcoins.com
    [3/1/2016 4:52:10 PM] Julian: these are all people selling your not buying from the site
    [3/1/2016 4:52:21 PM] Julian: you can pay via bank wire or cash deposit in there account
    [3/1/2016 4:53:29 PM] I-CAMZ: OK give me a few hours then
    [3/1/2016 4:53:54 PM] Julian: don't your banks close in an hour or? :P
    [3/1/2016 4:55:12 PM] I-CAMZ: They send out wires before 12pm anyways so after that time it goes the next day.
    [3/1/2016 4:55:23 PM] I-CAMZ: Where do you live?
    [3/1/2016 4:55:29 PM] Julian: London
    [3/1/2016 4:55:33 PM] Julian: im from England
    [3/1/2016 4:55:39 PM] Julian: or you could have just wired to me
    [3/1/2016 4:55:48 PM] I-CAMZ: I can just do international wire to you
    [3/1/2016 4:56:18 PM] I-CAMZ: It will take about 3 days to get to you but that's is easiest for me.
    [3/1/2016 4:56:27 PM] I-CAMZ: Send me your info.
    [3/1/2016 4:56:50 PM] Julian: Well you have a debit card right
    [3/1/2016 4:57:04 PM] Julian: I just read on coin base its instant buy if your in the us
    [3/1/2016 4:59:05 PM] Julian: https://www.coinbase.com/
    [3/1/2016 4:59:07 PM] Julian: check it out
    [3/1/2016 5:00:07 PM] I-CAMZ: OK that is fine too.
    [3/1/2016 5:00:21 PM] Julian: im just looking at wire fee for usa to uk
    [3/1/2016 5:00:21 PM] I-CAMZ: I can do it in a few minutes
    [3/1/2016 5:00:40 PM] Julian: I think btc is definetly the best idea for us here hehe
    [3/1/2016 5:01:15 PM] Julian: make sure you do a buy from your card and confirm your cell and everything otherwise it will take 3- 5 days if you buy from bank account
    [3/1/2016 5:03:51 PM] I-CAMZ: OK I will
    [3/1/2016 5:15:02 PM] Julian: Let me know im going to find the spreader source now and begin.
    [3/1/2016 5:15:31 PM] Julian: u going to run main bot on a vps or dedi
    [3/1/2016 5:29:51 PM] I-CAMZ: Maybe dedicated windows server might be best
    [3/1/2016 5:31:36 PM] Julian: im just thinking of the thread number
    [3/1/2016 5:33:35 PM] I-CAMZ: I can't use my cc
    [3/1/2016 5:34:01 PM] I-CAMZ: Its making me verify my bank account and will take 3 or 4 days just to verify, then another 3 to send money.
    [3/1/2016 5:34:30 PM] Julian: Ok localbitcoins would be your best bet you can do online banking wire + cash deposit
    [3/1/2016 5:34:50 PM] I-CAMZ: I went to the site you sent me
    [3/1/2016 5:35:09 PM] Julian: I sent 2
    [3/1/2016 5:35:19 PM] Julian: local bit coins and coin base
    [3/1/2016 5:35:25 PM] Julian: www.localbitcoins.com
    [3/1/2016 5:35:37 PM] Julian: you can get instant on there but u can do it over the next day or two I don't mind
    [3/1/2016 5:35:42 PM] Julian: still quicker than coinbase.
    [3/1/2016 5:45:36 PM] I-CAMZ: Fuck dude im not finding any way to pay for bitcoin
    [3/1/2016 5:45:51 PM] Julian: ok did u sign up for an account
    [3/1/2016 5:46:12 PM] Julian: https://localbitcoins.com/buy_bitcoins
    [3/1/2016 5:46:36 PM] Julian: at the bottom of the sellers page it says show more
    [3/1/2016 5:46:46 PM] Julian: u can browse different payment methods the sellers accept.
    [3/1/2016 5:46:51 PM] I-CAMZ: yes and I only see bs about cash in mail or stuff like that
    [3/1/2016 5:47:00 PM] I-CAMZ: where can I pay via my credit card?
    [3/1/2016 5:47:24 PM] Julian: well you can send western union with credit card
    [3/1/2016 5:47:27 PM] Julian: or moneygram I think
    [3/1/2016 5:47:38 PM] I-CAMZ: I'm not going to a western union
    [3/1/2016 5:47:52 PM] Julian: theres a western union website hah
    [3/1/2016 5:47:57 PM] Julian: you can use there site
    [3/1/2016 5:59:23 PM] I-CAMZ: They are saying the transaction cannot be completed with western union
    [3/1/2016 5:59:51 PM] Julian: ok what kind of card have u got lol.
    [3/1/2016 6:00:09 PM] I-CAMZ: a normal credit card.
    [3/1/2016 6:03:24 PM] Julian: Only other thing I can suggest is just do a cash deposit to someone's bank at your leisure.
    [3/1/2016 6:03:41 PM] I-CAMZ: let me see if I can pay them via paypal.
    [3/1/2016 6:03:57 PM] Julian: u can place an order on there they give u deposit details once u deposit they will release the coins
    [3/1/2016 6:04:12 PM] Julian: sure you will have to show them your id and everything though.
    [3/1/2016 6:10:50 PM] I-CAMZ: Dude, im not having any luck with this.  Its all a fucking scam.
    [3/1/2016 6:11:11 PM] Julian: its a legit site
    [3/1/2016 6:11:13 PM] I-CAMZ: If you can't do wire transfer to your bank or paypal.  Then I will need to find someone else for my project im sorry.
    [3/1/2016 6:11:16 PM] Julian: that's where I get my coins
    [3/1/2016 6:12:00 PM] I-CAMZ: I don't use bitcoin.  So its all so sketchy.  I verified all my id and everything and nobody takes cc and they are all in high fraud countries.
    [3/1/2016 6:12:26 PM] Julian: omg im going to have to talk u through it just to show u click on change location
    [3/1/2016 6:12:29 PM] Julian: on the site
    [3/1/2016 6:12:34 PM] Julian: u can browse people in cali
    [3/1/2016 6:12:40 PM] Julian: who are selling
    [3/1/2016 6:12:41 PM] I-CAMZ: Find me someone that takes a credit card.
    [3/1/2016 6:13:26 PM] I-CAMZ: I just want to be clear.  Im not leaving my house to give someone cash.  I'm paying from my company bank account so I need to show the IRS where the money is going.
    [3/1/2016 6:14:15 PM] Julian: I will take paypal if I must I can see u have tried
    [3/1/2016 6:14:19 PM] Julian: to get the coins lol...
    [3/1/2016 6:14:22 PM] Julian: I cant say you didnt
    [3/1/2016 6:14:57 PM] I-CAMZ: Dude.  I tried with 3 differnent people on localbitcoins and all of them you must walk into the western union or moneygram to send the money.
    [3/1/2016 6:15:08 PM] I-CAMZ: send me your paypal info.
    [3/1/2016 6:15:54 PM] Julian: 200 usd = 143.26 GBP send 143 Great british pounds
    [3/1/2016 6:15:56 PM] Julian: [email protected]
    [3/1/2016 6:16:09 PM] Julian: friends family payment so it doesn't hold please.
    [3/1/2016 6:16:16 PM] Julian: or gets huge fees
    [3/1/2016 6:20:33 PM] Julian: The spreader wont work on macs by the way.
    [3/1/2016 6:29:04 PM] Julian: its windows based but say a user on a mac is on skype
    [3/1/2016 6:29:12 PM] Julian: they will still see the mass broadcast message.
    [3/1/2016 6:29:27 PM] Julian: back in 10 going to need a strong coffee to look over this code.
    [3/1/2016 6:31:33 PM] I-CAMZ: I was able to send $99 to your account but it won't let me send more.
    [3/1/2016 6:31:37 PM] I-CAMZ: Can you see why?
    [3/1/2016 6:32:05 PM] I-CAMZ: I think you need to accept the first payment first before I can send another payment
    [3/1/2016 6:33:53 PM] I-CAMZ: You still online?
    [3/1/2016 6:36:10 PM] I-CAMZ: ?
    [3/1/2016 6:36:11 PM] I-CAMZ: ?
    [3/1/2016 6:40:34 PM] Julian: im here
    [3/1/2016 6:40:45 PM] Julian: let me look
    [3/1/2016 6:46:33 PM] Julian: ok im looking at it
    [3/1/2016 6:46:44 PM] Julian: $4.66 fee?
    [3/1/2016 6:46:53 PM] Julian: u didn't send as friends family payment?
    [3/1/2016 6:47:48 PM] I-CAMZ: It would not allow me to.
    [3/1/2016 6:47:52 PM] I-CAMZ: I will pay extra
    [3/1/2016 6:47:57 PM] I-CAMZ: When it lets me pay you again
    [3/1/2016 6:48:08 PM] I-CAMZ: did you accept the payment?
    [3/1/2016 6:48:40 PM] Julian: I accepted don't send anything else
    [3/1/2016 6:48:42 PM] Julian: hold on
    [3/1/2016 6:48:46 PM] I-CAMZ: ok
    [3/1/2016 6:51:12 PM] Julian: refunded
    [3/1/2016 6:51:16 PM] I-CAMZ: why?
    [3/1/2016 6:52:09 PM] Julian: shit went straight to pending.
    [3/1/2016 6:52:16 PM] I-CAMZ: I see
    [3/1/2016 6:52:16 PM] Julian: its friends family payment or btc im afraid.
    [3/1/2016 6:52:33 PM] I-CAMZ: Let me try friends or family again.
    [3/1/2016 6:52:46 PM] Julian: and send in gbp
    [3/1/2016 6:52:49 PM] Julian: u sent usd lol
    [3/1/2016 6:53:54 PM] I-CAMZ: see
    [3/1/2016 6:54:38 PM] I-CAMZ: Why don't you want me to pay you via wire transfer directly to your account?   To me you not wanting me to do that sounds fishy.
    [3/1/2016 6:54:53 PM] Julian: I will show u my passport its not that
    [3/1/2016 6:55:02 PM] Julian: its the fee + currency exchange and the time
    [3/1/2016 6:55:05 PM] Julian: for wiring to uk.
    [3/1/2016 6:55:15 PM] Julian: if it was an eu sepa bank it would be next day
    [3/1/2016 6:55:30 PM] I-CAMZ: I will pay $250 right now into BGP
    [3/1/2016 6:55:34 PM] I-CAMZ: GBP
    [3/1/2016 6:55:56 PM] I-CAMZ: That will cover any fees.
    [3/1/2016 6:56:14 PM] Julian: yeah and it would take like 7 days to hit my bank
    [3/1/2016 6:56:21 PM] Julian: you may as well do coinbase I can begin work
    [3/1/2016 6:56:28 PM] Julian: and when u get the coins u get the coins
    [3/1/2016 6:56:35 PM] I-CAMZ: I send money every week to my affiliates in London and it takes 3 days.
    [3/1/2016 6:56:45 PM] I-CAMZ: maybe 4 tops.
    [3/1/2016 6:56:48 PM] Julian: oh it does?
    [3/1/2016 6:57:54 PM] I-CAMZ: $250 would be 176.96 GBP into your account after all the fees.
    [3/1/2016 6:59:11 PM] Julian: are u sure u can convert to gbp then send?
    [3/1/2016 6:59:19 PM] Julian: I thought the bank had to convert it for the receiver
    [3/1/2016 6:59:38 PM] I-CAMZ: Look this is what its tellimg me.
    [3/1/2016 6:59:41 PM] I-CAMZ: telling me.
    [3/1/2016 7:01:22 PM] I-CAMZ: You can even see that I send money to lots of people this way.  Its safe for me, it does take a few days, but I don't care. If you want to wait to start that is fine also.  But I cannot be messing around with bitcoin for hours.
    [3/1/2016 7:01:31 PM] I-CAMZ: my time is valuable
    [3/1/2016 7:01:57 PM] Julian: ok fine tell me what you need account and sort
    [3/1/2016 7:02:00 PM] Julian: or u need iban and bic
    [3/1/2016 7:02:44 PM] I-CAMZ: Your full name or company name
    [3/1/2016 7:03:05 PM] Julian: if u need iban number I cant get it for an hour
    [3/1/2016 7:03:23 PM] I-CAMZ: I can tell until I enter your name
    [3/1/2016 7:03:46 PM] Julian: Julian Mac
    [3/1/2016 7:03:51 PM] I-CAMZ: I think it normally gives me 2 options
    [3/1/2016 7:04:08 PM] I-CAMZ: uk sort code or iban
    [3/1/2016 7:04:22 PM] I-CAMZ: then account number
    [3/1/2016 7:04:36 PM] I-CAMZ: country city  address and postal code
    [3/1/2016 7:05:02 PM] Julian: ok hold on got to get my card with details on it as I cant log in online banking to get it ;0
    [3/1/2016 7:05:10 PM] I-CAMZ: ok
    [3/1/2016 7:07:48 PM] Julian: can I just message u in 30 minutes when online banking comes back up
    [3/1/2016 7:07:50 PM] Julian: cant find my wallet
    [3/1/2016 7:07:53 PM] I-CAMZ: sure
    [3/1/2016 7:07:54 PM] Julian: this is a disaster lol
    [3/1/2016 7:08:02 PM] Julian: will message u the details asap.
    [3/1/2016 7:08:02 PM] I-CAMZ: I know, im trying my best here.
    [3/1/2016 7:08:03 PM] I-CAMZ: lol
    [3/1/2016 7:08:07 PM] I-CAMZ: thanks
    [3/1/2016 8:16:38 PM] Julian: ok sort code!
    [3/1/2016 8:16:42 PM] Julian: 523021
    [3/1/2016 8:16:56 PM] I-CAMZ: ok
    [3/1/2016 8:17:11 PM] I-CAMZ: account number?
    [3/1/2016 8:17:30 PM] I-CAMZ: your bank Is Bank: NAT WEST BANK PLC, DAVENTRY right?
    [3/1/2016 8:17:47 PM] Julian: yes that's it
    [3/1/2016 8:17:54 PM] I-CAMZ: good
    [3/1/2016 8:17:59 PM] Julian: 33663270
    [3/1/2016 8:18:47 PM] I-CAMZ: UK right?   And city  address and postal code
    [3/1/2016 8:19:15 PM] Julian: yes its uk address is
    [3/1/2016 8:19:17 PM] Julian: 53 Oldfield Road, Bedford MK40 4HD
    [3/1/2016 8:19:24 PM] Julian: city/town Bedford.
    [3/1/2016 8:19:56 PM] I-CAMZ: postal code is MK40 4HD
    [3/1/2016 8:20:05 PM] Julian: yes
    [3/1/2016 8:20:09 PM] I-CAMZ: ok
    [3/1/2016 8:20:28 PM] I-CAMZ: 176.99 GBP is estimated to reach Julian Mac's account by tomorrow afternoon
    [3/1/2016 8:21:08 PM] Julian: no way its going that quick hah
    [3/1/2016 8:21:11 PM] Julian: what the hell do u use
    [3/1/2016 8:21:39 PM] I-CAMZ: I never seen it that quick to be honest, but it says for sure in 1 to 2 business days.  Normally it takes 3.
    [3/1/2016 8:21:47 PM] I-CAMZ: I use transferwise.com
    [3/1/2016 8:21:56 PM] I-CAMZ: Its awesome
    [3/1/2016 8:22:36 PM] Julian: ok well we will see when it appears im going to crash for a few its 3:22am lol when I get up I will start compiling the spreader
    [3/1/2016 8:22:52 PM] Julian: looking forward to doing some long term work on this for you
    [3/1/2016 8:23:27 PM] I-CAMZ: Ok, thanks for understanding.     If this works good I will have you make me other bots to upload videos to tube sites, and fb commenters and stuff like that.  Turn and burn accounts and proxies.
    [3/1/2016 8:23:35 PM] I-CAMZ: Good night.
    [3/1/2016 8:23:48 PM] Julian: goodnight man talk later on
    [3/1/2016 8:24:00 PM] I-CAMZ: Talk to you tomorrow evening if your online.
    [3/2/2016 8:59:19 AM] Julian: ok
    [3/2/2016 11:58:03 AM] Julian: Hey
    [3/2/2016 12:28:43 PM] Julian: Let me know when your available.
    [3/2/2016 1:33:13 PM] I-CAMZ: I'm not at home but what's up?
    [3/2/2016 5:06:39 PM] I-CAMZ: It says the funds have been transferred from our end.
    [3/2/2016 5:20:11 PM] Julian: yeah they went in earlier
    [3/2/2016 5:20:13 PM] Julian: work has begun
    [3/2/2016 5:20:19 PM] Julian: I tend not to be on Skype when im working
    [3/2/2016 5:20:23 PM] Julian: it gets distracting lol
    [3/2/2016 5:20:30 PM] Julian: iim taking a lil break though.
    [3/2/2016 5:21:00 PM] I-CAMZ: No, problem, as long as you don't take my money and run.
    [3/2/2016 5:21:09 PM] Julian: no way
    [3/2/2016 5:21:14 PM] I-CAMZ: :)
    [3/2/2016 5:21:21 PM] Julian: I want the rest of the $ once im done lol.
    [3/2/2016 5:21:32 PM] I-CAMZ: lol   good.
    [3/2/2016 6:04:43 PM] Julian: getting back to it
    [3/4/2016 8:22:34 AM] Julian: Hey
    [3/4/2016 8:30:35 AM] Julian: Hows things
    [3/4/2016 12:41:22 PM] I-CAMZ: You tell me
    [3/4/2016 12:49:19 PM] Julian: going good the spreader should be finished in the next 2 days
    [3/4/2016 1:08:54 PM] I-CAMZ: Cool
    [3/4/2016 1:09:15 PM] Julian: im looking forward to testing it
    [3/4/2016 1:14:35 PM] I-CAMZ: Me too
    [3/6/2016 8:05:24 PM] I-CAMZ: Any updates?
    [3/7/2016 8:31:24 AM] Julian: Hi its going to take longer than I first though
    [3/7/2016 8:31:32 AM] Julian: the existing source I was working off
    [3/7/2016 8:31:39 AM] Julian: wasn't made for the Microsoft takeover of skype
    [3/7/2016 8:31:47 AM] Julian: so all the api shits different.
    [3/7/2016 9:46:57 AM] I-CAMZ: Ok, so how much longer?
    [3/7/2016 10:50:35 AM] Julian: I need another 2 weeks
    [3/7/2016 12:15:48 PM] I-CAMZ: ok that is fine.  Same cost for me right?
    [3/7/2016 3:46:47 PM] Julian: yep im gonna aim to have it done sooner
    [3/7/2016 3:46:50 PM] Julian: but that's the deadline
    [3/7/2016 3:47:16 PM] I-CAMZ: Ok, that is fine. I just want everything to work correctly
    [3/7/2016 3:47:39 PM] Julian: ok np
    [3/11/2016 8:44:43 AM] Julian: hey hey
    [3/11/2016 8:44:46 AM] Julian: should have something nice to show you on tuesday
    [3/11/2016 8:45:22 AM] I-CAMZ: Cool
    [3/11/2016 8:45:48 AM] Julian: hows things with you
    [3/14/2016 9:52:52 AM] I-CAMZ: hey. im good. How are things coming along?
    [3/14/2016 9:56:08 AM] Julian: good spreaders almost done definetly taking longer than I thought
    [3/14/2016 9:57:00 AM] I-CAMZ: Ok, as long as it works good when completed.     I have the windows server setup and ready to go.
    [3/14/2016 7:10:50 PM] Julian: ok the spreader wont need much resource wise that just spreads over machines once setup
    [3/14/2016 7:10:53 PM] Julian: its the main bot =p
    [3/14/2016 7:11:02 PM] Julian: that eats resources.
    [3/14/2016 7:11:34 PM] I-CAMZ: cool, so it uses the persons computer to spread, then just sends back the data of contact info to us?
    [3/14/2016 7:12:11 PM] Julian: well theres 2 options one is infect contact + send invisible message
    [3/14/2016 7:12:18 PM] Julian: ie website link or w/e
    [3/14/2016 7:12:31 PM] Julian: or another is keep on botnet change custom message etc
    [3/14/2016 7:13:13 PM] I-CAMZ: Yes that is what I want, send out my website link.   But I want it to seem like a girl is flirting to get more people to actually go to the site.
    [3/14/2016 7:13:18 PM] I-CAMZ: So whatever you suggest.
    [3/14/2016 7:13:48 PM] Julian: I found a guy selling an existing bot too his is sik...but he wants 1500 for it lol
    [3/14/2016 7:13:52 PM] Julian: but its the business
    [3/14/2016 7:14:06 PM] Julian: so far im only most of the way through spreader and 50% through main bot
    [3/14/2016 7:14:13 PM] Julian: really didn't realise how long it would take
    [3/14/2016 7:14:23 PM] Julian: didnt know the source was so old either
    [3/14/2016 7:15:03 PM] I-CAMZ: Wow $1500 is a lot too.
    [3/14/2016 7:15:07 PM] Julian: I know
    [3/14/2016 7:15:20 PM] Julian: guess its worth it to use it himself doing his dating bs
    [3/14/2016 7:15:41 PM] I-CAMZ: yeah it works for dating sites really well.
    [3/14/2016 7:15:49 PM] I-CAMZ: I hope it works for my cam sites.
    [3/14/2016 7:15:55 PM] I-CAMZ: I need traffic badly
    [3/14/2016 7:16:46 PM] Julian: It will once its finishedlike I say im halfway through main
    [3/14/2016 7:16:49 PM] Julian: bot.
    [3/14/2016 7:16:54 PM] Julian: wish I charged more oh well haha
    [3/14/2016 7:16:59 PM] Julian: u live and learn
    [3/14/2016 7:19:15 PM] I-CAMZ: I will get you on the next bot I have you make for me, if this works good.
    [3/14/2016 8:36:30 PM] Julian: oh shit
    [3/14/2016 8:36:30 PM] Julian: he wants 1500 for the bot
    [3/14/2016 8:36:30 PM] Julian: he said I could get the source for 300
    [3/14/2016 8:36:30 PM] Julian: this would save a lot of time.
    [3/14/2016 9:14:10 PM] I-CAMZ: So I would just pay you the extra 3 at the end?
    [3/14/2016 9:15:07 PM] Julian: well the truth be told my funds are pretty low right now but we can do paypal if u like I know your legit if I don't deliver chargeback?
    [3/14/2016 9:15:14 PM] Julian: just trying to get this finished asap now
    [3/14/2016 9:15:52 PM] I-CAMZ: I really don't want to release any more money until I see something for the money I already paid.
    [3/14/2016 9:16:46 PM] I-CAMZ: I had another developer I just paid and never delivered the file to me and its been like a week.
    [3/14/2016 9:16:49 PM] Julian: I understand I just underestimated the project time and this guy has full working source
    [3/14/2016 9:17:01 PM] Julian: i can assemble it test it done in a day?
    [3/14/2016 9:17:31 PM] I-CAMZ: yeah if you can show me something working and send me those files I can wire some funds tomorrow.
    [3/14/2016 9:18:02 PM] Julian: i will ask if i can pay after i get it
    [3/14/2016 9:18:04 PM] Julian: see what he says
    [3/14/2016 9:18:13 PM] Julian: i don't think hes going to go for it though
    [3/16/2016 7:33:05 PM] I-CAMZ: any update?
    [3/16/2016 8:43:26 PM] *** I-CAMZ would like to add you on Skype
    Hi Julian, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
    [3/18/2016 8:59:34 PM] I-CAMZ: update?
    [3/21/2016 10:08:35 PM] *** I-CAMZ would like to add you on Skype
    Hi Julian, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
    [3/30/2016 8:10:27 PM] I-CAMZ: hey