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Problems with rank and rent...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ttmschine, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    Hello,
    I wondered if anyone with experience of rank and rent might be able to help with some advice.

    I've built 1 website and got about 130 pages of it ranking on page 1 of google for an expensive niche [service name] [city].

    However, can't get any interest at all from anyone in renting any of the pages.

    I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
     
  2. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    WTF are you babbling on about - mods - this looks like a total spammer.
     
  3. turdface

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    I have not gotten one interested email back from anyone I've contacted to put their information on my page.
     
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    Does it generate calls?
     
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    drewp123 Junior Member

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    Out of curiosity what url do you use? I have looked at doing something similar. Is www.servicecityname.com what you did? I'm worried if getting it to rank and having the same problem as you.
     
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    The problem is that Google already does all the local listings and they're much stronger than everyone else.

    You rank #1 for service+city but then Google shows maps and direct business data at the top, so all the businesses flock to list their stuff with Google and won't buy your listings.

    This is happening across the board, from hotels to flights to local listings, Google has taken all the spaces and now AMP pages will make things even worse : when the connection is "slow" (according to Google) your content will be served straight from Google.
     
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    spillsplash Junior Member

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    If you are at #1, I wonder why you can not rent it. I am doing this from long and my niche is real estate. I have been successfully doing it from long. To me, the process is like this:

    - I have scrapped list of all real estate agent in that locality which I email
    - I also look for the website which is trying to rank or atleast they have a website dedicated for that real estate project
    - I also go through local real estate directory who are listing their project
    - I also use linkedin sometime to get the lead

    My success rate is 100% if I am ranking anywhere between #1-#4
     
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  8. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    Thanks for your answers - I'm at number 1 for only a couple, but have for example 110 pages on page 1 for various locations for a pretty good keyword.

    I've come to the conclusion that I deliberately chose a niche where the people in it seem to have no clue - and that they won't rent a space either because they have no clue.

    What I've done on Monday this week is go and see a business I loosely know in this niche and add them onto my site to see how much traffic I can drive to them, and how well it converts.

    Either they will hopefully want to pay for the traffic, or at least I have some real numbers to sell it to someone else.

    Agree with Bart re Google - eventually they're going to own the whole first page and so very few methods will work without paying them I think.
     
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    lelou00 Power Member

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    Why don't getting some leads (email, phone number) of interested visitors, and use them to convince the business owners that your website actually getting real traffic and not worthless?

    Or give them trial period (let say 1 month) for free. Usually for business owners, if they are getting real customer from it, they won't be stupid to turn it down.
     
  10. ttmschine

    ttmschine Regular Member

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    Thanks, I guess that's another way to go - it's what I'm doing now in effect with one business but I could roll that out across lots of others.
     
  11. MisterF

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    This is so hard to predict.

    Depends on the niche, is a florist shop where people will be spending $25-$50 or a cosmetic surgeon @ $5k+ spend per client.
    It also depends on their budget too.

    My thoughts would be to run a daily report each day for a week of how many organic visitors your site is getting.
    Put these into a report, so Monday 1234 visits, Tues 1365, Weds 1992 etc

    This is an important aspect as to how many their service would convert at, so 10% would be great, 5% good.

    IF you are so confident your figures stack up, then offer a potential client an intro offer to get the ball rolling.


    Unless you are able to get them in the Google Maps and snippets, you're not going to be able to offer anything other than the organic search.


    Final option maybe is to make the site have a directory page and sell space to several companies?