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PPI vs. CPA - Which one is better ? Here is my case study

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by AmateRasu, May 23, 2014.

  1. AmateRasu

    AmateRasu Power Member

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    Not sure if there is a similar thread like this one but I will show you the current stats of which is better PPI vs CPA. In this thread you will see which is the best monetizing platform for your traffic.


    PPI


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    Earnings : $279.88 with 6189 clicks/start installs



    CPA

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    Earnings : $578.78 with 6326 clicks


    as you can see in the image although I have crappy 7.57% convertion rate in CPA I still made more money on it and that is unoptemized campaign just mass spam like what I'm doing with revenyou. I'll give you my thoughts about it.

    PPI

    Pros :

    - Awesome convertion rate ranges from 63% - 58%
    - Easy to understand
    - A decent people would download and just install and will not waste their time
    - Good for mass spam
    - Stable but low earnings

    Cons :

    - Low earnings
    - You will waste CRAP LOAD of high paying pin submits if you prefer PPI than CPA
    - Net-30 to Net-45
    - Delayed payments sometimes
    - You are installing malware on their PC
    - Detected by major companies like AVAST,AVG etc. which dramatically decrease your convertion rate
    - You will only get high earnings if you have only US installs which average of $0.50 per install with a convertion rate of 40%
    - Uncryptable (you can't make this undetectable with the use of crypter)

    CPA

    Pros :

    - You can get high paying leads with some high paying pin submits
    - You will make more money
    - You can optimize the offers (the image above is unoptemized offers)
    - You can request early payments
    - You are not installing malware on their PC's
    - 100% won't get detected by anti-virus because it is web-based

    Cons :

    - Low convertion rate 8%-20% on average CPA marketer
    - People gets fruistrated because it is time consuming
    - You earn when their mobile phone air time is charged.
    - unstable earnings (sometimes you will get $50 in a day sometimes $100 in a day it depends because of high paying offers)

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    so in this case for me CPA > PPI ... the #1 reason why PPI is now dying because of

    - Networks lowered their payouts because of high amount of publishers
    - Gets detected by anti-virus pretty fast it will get detection within a day

    well its up to you now to decide I'm just giving my results about it please don't get offended. Yes at start I made good amount of money with PPI (see my last journey thread) and as the time past and the number of people moved from CPA > PPI the installer gets detected too fast because it spreads quickly to hundreds of thousands PC in a day and PPI networks keeps on lowering offers. So.. yeah.. I hope you enjoy my case study about this 2 blackhat monetizing methods today. I hope you can give us your results too and which one you prefer CPA or PPI ?

     
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  2. nullfo

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    To maximize your PPI profits, get a crypter with no dependencies and host the file on your server.

    As soon as it gets a detection, reupload. Make sure it's scantime and runtime FUD.
     
  3. Pilfer7

    Pilfer7 Regular Member

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    so if you have US traffic for PPI and it's converting at 40% then you would have made more than double what you did with CPA

    sounds like PPI is the way to go
     
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    Pilfer7 Regular Member

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    any good source that explains what you just said for the uninformed?

    meaning I'm trying to understand what u are saying but I don't know anything about scantime, FUD and all that, nawmean?
     
  5. AmateRasu

    AmateRasu Power Member

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    Tried it also using C++ crypter not works. It says file intergrity bullsh*t I tried it all crypter I found even the private service I still get that error.

    Contacted my affiliate manager in PPI and I ask him what language is used in PPI installers he replied to me and says "english" :p funniest reply i've ever seen in my entire life. In short Crypter doesn't work and you will keep spending $50 per 3 days just to make sure it has 0 detection.

    you didn't get the point. in most cases you will get mixed traffic because you will use "ENGLISH" language in promoting of your niche and 27% of the entire world knows/speaks english. Thats why you will get mix traffic. If you have US traffic which pay atleast $0.80 on average with convertion rate of 40% that will be around $0.35 per start install BUT I'm 100% sure that there are hundreds of high paying countries in CPA that you miss with PPI.

    Now lets get back to my results above. So I wast using "ENGLISH" language in promoting files and I only get about 3%-5% US traffic

    FUD means "Fully Undetected" 0 detections out of 63 Anti-viruses out there. A private dedicated Crypt service would cost $500 montly or $50 per crypt and thats the best option to go because if you use semi-dedicated crypter that is shared with other users who spreads malware too the coder will ban you because you will get his work detected within a day.

    $50 per crypt would last for 1-3 days maximum + I'm 100% sure it won't work with revenyou and amonetize installer because the DEV of this companies dissabled the editing of the main features of their installer in short if you crypt your PPI installer it will be corrupted
     
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  6. dorfas

    dorfas Newbie

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    For some reason I'm getting better results with PPI:
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    Only USA traffic:
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    Results with PPD:
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    But still the biggest problem with PPI is blacklisted installers.
     
  7. extreme90

    extreme90 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I would like to add, it also depends on the traffic type, I have seen in some niche's, where PPI works very well and CPA doesnt, the one limitation you can say for CPA is that, it is not for every traffic, and we can cash with PPI on majority traffic, but the con here is that it is being detected by avast etc, so the game here remains mix, and everyone has it's own data.
     
  8. shuttershades

    shuttershades Registered Member

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    On amonetize with 53 installs i got 26.20 bucks with 1:4.
    To have a good conversion and bypass chrome detection i use an binder ( my exe + jpg file) on this way my file name is more natural ''file.exe''and with specific icon,after that i use MD5 Hash Changer v1.0 to change MD5 on my archive,is not 100% undetectable but is samething
     
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  9. luchito63

    luchito63 Newbie

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    hello consultation
    PPI USA recommend that you offer me please