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Post Penguin Strategy

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zee007, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    I have recently taken on a client that has his targeted keyword showing up as 50% of his backlinks anchor text! There are approximately 2500 backlinks! How the hell am I supposed to bring that number down? I know the key is to build links to other keywords, but what's the quickest way to do that?

    That new Google disavow tool looks extremely tempting at this point....
     
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    tymes90 Regular Member

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    One of the fastest ways to build new links is to simply use article marketing. But whatever submitters you are using, make sure that you are getting the articles published in article directories, blogs and web 2.0 sites. This way you are getting a wide variety of sites linking to the main site.
     
  3. Dr. Hulu Zu Fred

    Dr. Hulu Zu Fred Newbie

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    Think also of plattform diversity! Building article links only will worsen your situation only!
     
  4. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    I cant see how using article marketing post penguin can be of any use. It would probably hurt more than help. I need a pure white hat strategy to bring down the anchor text ratio.
     
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    I think wiki submission on drip feed, I'm sure I see it in the Buy/Sell section

     
  6. bilbo

    bilbo Power Member

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    keyword diversity and use plenty of generic anchors together with social signals and web2's etc
     
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    If article marketing isn't white hat - then what is?
     
  8. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    My understanding of "article submitters" means lots of spun content. That is certainly not white hat and probably will not even work post penguin and panda.

    Since these links are going to be built directly to the money site, I have to be very carefully not to get the site penalized in any way.
     
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    Just manually write unique content and spin it manually, or get a service from here, there are some good ones. Its not black hat to promote your website (through article directories in this case), its just blackhat to automate it.
     
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    So true.
     
  11. Davis1

    Davis1 Newbie

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    .There are are different kinds of ways of building up new links one is the blog commenting and other one is the article submission.In article submission method you should published your article in article dictionary.In this way you will surely get the batter results.​
     
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    I would give you best tip.... If you dont know what to do, dont take the client in the first place. So think twice and be honest with him...

    Anyway, no matter what do not outsource the job. What happen if you sandbox ur client's site? Are you going to tell him: oh it wasnt me I was just outsourcing... By the way, go for white hat seo unless he mention black hat... If u are really going to do the job pm me anytime and I'll give you some ideas for white hat link building. good luck!
     
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    Aoi_Hime Newbie

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    My tip:
    -Select the worst of them and use disavow tool. Maybe some of them are just scrap and really hurts more than help.
    - If ratio isnt good enough yet, check how many are ******** and how many nofollow. Disavow enough to keep a ratio 1 ********/5 nofollow. You dont want to ring google bells.
    - Farm some white hat backlinks with articles as they said.

    I think is better to lose some good backlinks now (that you can create some as good as them later) than end up in sandbox.
     
  14. ThopHayt

    ThopHayt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well SOMEBODY need to test this disavow thing and see if it actually helps or if its yet another way for Google to find out who's blackhatting.
     
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    Promote the brand and build authority. To avoid long term link loss, avoid crappy article submissions. Better go for massive paid press release distributions. With PRWeb you hit Yahoo News, Google News and major PR6-7 news and media sites.
     
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    Yup. The Google disavow tool is mighty tempting :) But it'll take you tons of time - you'll need to get a tool like ahrefs, or use link checkers on SEO Moz or Raven, and analyze every single link. A good link taken down is as dangerous (if not more) as a bad link left in place. Once that list is ready, then you'll need to begin the weeding! We tried with a client, and found that unless the site has a strong budget, they can't afford so many man hours! My 2 cents :)
     
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    The question isn't "How the hell do I get rid of 2500 exact domain links?", it's "How the hell do I make this look organic?"

    Rough ratio (of course very rough ratio, every site should be treated on a case-by-case basis with measured results if you're a real professional)

    The answer to to build more backlinks, with decent velocity over say a 6 week period, to correct the ratio of backlinks on the website.

    • 50-50 d0-follow/ nofollow ratio
    • Exact anchor variation < 30%
    â—˜ This means, building more backlinks that are LSI, generic, or just long sentence anchors like "wrote an article for keyword anchor text that was really interesting that you should check out"

    If you want some cheap BSTs for sheer volume to help balance it out, here's what I have in my Bookmarks

    Blackhatlinks.com - Best Comment Blast Service - High PR / Low OBL - Ultra fast - High Volume comments, cheap and you can vary the URL/Keywords to super LSI terms which I what I would advise
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    Again, my advice is to gradually increase the volume of backlinks to balance out the ratio of links, most likely in concurrency with high quality Tier 0/Tier 1 link building. Don't use the disavow tool, that's showing your hand to Google.
     
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  18. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    Thanks everyone! This is why I LOVE BHW. Tons of valuable advice from the community. I think I'm going to go with Cash 202's advice. Press Releases is the best and most white hat way to build links to other keywords. Everything else directly to the money site is just too spammy and risky.


    As for the disavow tool, please keep in mind, its only a way of Google "ignoring" links. All backlink analyzer tools will still show the links. So you will have to re-calculate the anchor text ratio on your own. If a site has thousands of links (like mine), you're kinda screwed. Plus, I think its just a way of pointing out blackatters to Google. I would only use it if a site were to get a direct letter from Google for unnatural link building. Otherwise its best to stay away from the whistle blowing feature.


    Cheers!