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porn tube sites still worth?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by jintd4, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. jintd4

    jintd4 Newbie

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    hi guys.. i know a lot guys doing porn tube sites
    but can u tell me is it still worth?
     
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    Depends on your hardwork.
     
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    You mean making site or uploading porn videos to online website?
     
  4. SirSmash

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    Do you know how to make a *good* site, do you know about servers? If you have the technical knowledge to do it well then sure you could make money. If you think you'll download a WordPress theme and slap it on a site you made in 4 minutes, then you're not likely to make much.

    Tube sites are like every other business, If you do it well there's money to be made, if you do it poorly you'll waste your time. You do need a bit of knowledge with *nix though as you'll need things like the LEMP stack with nginx as a proxy for apache, ffmpeg, ioncube, and other various plugins. You'll have to understand video encoding and various things like bandwidth requirements; calculate the what the average user consumes in bandwidth cost vs what the average user income is, make sure the numbers work.

    It might sound counter-intuitive but the real people making money in porn these days are the nerds.
     
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    I have an "OK" site up currently. Put about a months worth of work into the site so far and I'm actually making about 2 bucks a day. I have great content, traffic, and it's mobile responsive. Now I'm ready to scale this up, but I'm having trouble understanding which server, front end uploader, and video player to use. If you have any insight I'd take it gracefully.
     
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    what do you mean ?
     
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    You don't need special player, the best way here is to use html5 tag <video>. Yes different browser will do it in their own way but look at the browser market, Chrome and forks of Chrome using more then 50% users. Basically you can optimize it for Chrome Firefox and IE. Add a bit of js to improve user experience(play/pause onclick, remember volume level ,etc) and that's all.
     
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    Porn is always profitable, goes back to the saying of "sex sells"
     
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  9. SirSmash

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    What are you trying to accomplish? That's the first thing you got to figure out and then you can build a site around what you want. If you're uploading all content yourself it's possible to encode everything before you upload and have a pretty basic site. If your users are uploading, are they uploading just content, without login? Are you allowing user logins? Chat between users? Favorites? Once the content is uploaded do you want it to automatically encode to different sizes and file formats? Do you want the site to work on just modern browsers, or do you want it to also work on things like a Playstation 3?

    Each one of these things is going to add complexity to the site and what you want determines how you have to build the site. The server you run could be basic if you're doing content uploads, it could also get pretty intense if you want a social network aspect. The front end uploader is a few lines of code no matter what, and the video player goes back to how compatible you want the site to be. I'm running HTML5 with a flash component for backup and if that fails the user gets a screen to choose a format they want to download.

    I imagine your biggest barrier, because it usually is, is going to be financial. If you can afford it then your best bet is use an existing solution like MechBunny (what I used to use) or Kernel Video Sharing (what I use now) and then build on that platform any add ons. Starting from scratch isn't easy, so take something that comes close to your goal and modify the rest. Both those have decent documentation, I switched to KVS as it has more features but again more features adds more complexity. MechBunny can kind of run on basically anything and it's easy to install, KVS you got to be a nerd to get it running but it scales very well with it's ability to use multiple server systems. You can set some to encode, some for storage, some for serving files/pages.

    So the answer is a bit vague but figure out what you want to accomplish first, there's a chance you don't need to scale up the website at this point. It might be as simple as just uploading more content and advertising. If you want to add features there's really nothing you HAVE to use, no one's going to say "Do this, this, add this software, this theme" for the perfect tube site because they're all different depending on requirements. Like some sites do language translation but most don't really need that, it just depends what you want and how much time you're willing to spend learning (or how much money you want to shell out for someone else to do it.).
     
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    Yeah, I've had Mechbunny in consideration for a while now, as soon as I can afford it I'm going to drop the cash. As for monetizing my content, I'm attempting to use the vast with Exo but my page currently has all of the content right there as soon as you go to it, so whenever I figure out how to make a homepage that actually has thumbnails only instead of the entire video preloaded when you come to the site, then I will for sure make more $$$. What are some good plugins for a community on the site? & I'm running HostGator so I dont post weird shit just the "good ol' basics". Lastly, what are some steps towards making everything legal, you know, like the links at the footer of bigger adult platforms?

     
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    Your best bet using HostGator and wanting to have thumbnails load is use WordPress and a tube theme such as "Bestia" (I've used that one before on small niche sites when I didn't want to spend much money). That would give you a basic tube site that you can upload content to. If you want to add a community you can use BuddyPress BUT that's probably going to be a bit touchy on HostGator, you're likely to need more server resources than HostGator provides. It's also IMO kind of a jumbled up solution, like uploaded videos aren't going to be re-encoded for different sizes and formats. If someone uploads something like a blu-ray quality video your visitors are going to wonder why it takes so long to load. That's because it's downloading a huge file and just smashing it to fit the player, rather than actually having the video source file be the correct size. It's not something you can fix because HostGator doesn't give you root access to install compression software.

    Legal wise, most people just copy the 2257 disclaimer from another site. The legal issue you currently have is you can't actually claim the content is user uploaded. Normally you can go "Content is user uploaded, we have a system in place for reporting content, we are exempt from 2257" and it's harder to sue you for piracy. But you're uploading all the content and don't have a way to fake it. Many sites do upload their own stuff but they have the CMS [Content Management System] like MechBunny which provides plausible deniability, uploading over FTP and such is obviously you uploading the content and the server logs are there to prove it.
     
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    Porn always sells. If you are doing it well, it will definitely work for you.
     
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    Yes they do
     
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    Mechbunny is really good and industry standard. I did some work with Mechbunny sites a few years ago and the codebase has definitely gotten better since then.

    I've also built my own custom tube scripts. I wrote one that cloned YouPorn architecture and used redis as primary data store. Had a really neat tagging system, too. All the tools to write your own tube script are out there. You can use HTML5 / Flash video streaming plugins, host the content on AWS (or other more adult-friendly providers) and use a frontend framework like bootstrap for clean design if you're strapped for cash. Plenty of resources for learning that stuff yourself.

    Definitely host everything offshore if possible, or at least with a hosting provider that's adult-friendly (usually these providers will cost a bit more, but you're less likely to get slapped or find yourself in any legal trouble).

    As for monetization and getting traffic, I'd just recommend going fairly niche. It's going to be REALLY hard to out-compete the big players for mainstream porn, but if you're niche enough, you can definitely do well.

    If you want more tips, PM me for info.
    Have a bunch of experience with these kinds of sites.
     
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    Could you PM/start a conversation with me? I don't have enough post yet. I really appreciate all of the help