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Poor Ultimate Demon results

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by donenvy, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. donenvy

    donenvy Junior Member

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    Is there anybody here that actually gets good results from Ultimate Demon?

    I've scraped my own list of sites, I've used scrittiy's list of sites and ended up with a decent size targets.

    When I tried a submission, huuuuge failure rates. E.G
    1900 Wiki sites, Successful only 40
    350 Web 2.0's, Successful only 22
    1200 BookMarks, Successful only 38
    Software has ONLY 23 press release sites, Successful only 10

    So I tried without submission and instead only account set up, account sets up success is only half that of the full list, that's using 2 captcha services, brand new own domain email for each project etc.

    They all keep failing because of no activation link, or 2nd/3rd page has moved, footprint not found error and especially on WIKI sites you do not have permission to edit the post.

    So my question is so far every test I've tried to do, even no submission just sign up has failed poorly. I'm starting to lose faith in the product because even without posting, account creation is really bad.

    I'd like to know does any body have good results with this software, if so how many of your target sites post and verify successfully?
     
  2. Warlock8

    Warlock8 Registered Member

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    Software is fine , there must be problem with your captcha or proxies.
     
  3. donenvy

    donenvy Junior Member

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    how many are you successful with?
     
  4. donenvy

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    and is that success even with WIKI sites?
     
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    Wow! That's is indeed a low success rate. You will be better off building all links manually. :)
     
  6. Adam718

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    Be sure to rule out the proxies and captchas first. Also run less threads if your connection cant handle it.
     
  7. cloakndagger2

    cloakndagger2 Regular Member

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    You're always going to get dead sites, not accepting submissions etc but you're numbers are way too low, there is another issue. Ultimate demon has a task log to check stuff like this.
     
  8. flipfl0p

    flipfl0p Newbie

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    If you tried to contact them they wil ltell you the same thing. If your using public proxies to submit then that's one of your problems. Get a list of a few hundred private proxies and use scrapebox to harvest 'current' public proxies then you'll have a great success rates.
     
  9. Danny1111

    Danny1111 Elite Member

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    Yeah everyone else nailed it on the head.

    Seems Proxy Issue / Captcha Issue / Thread Total Issue ... its not quite configured correctly for you.
     
  10. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    My lists (mentioned above) come with proof that every single one works. Includes the user name, password and email address of the account I created in testing plus (where the program can pick it up) the URL of the link that was made.

    So I can say with complete assurance that when done right - my lists of 700-1000 sites are 100% success. The proof is in the spreadsheet you can download with the actual accounts and submissions I made (you could even import and use the test accounts yourself - the file format is the standard Ultimate Demon export/import format)

    As for failure rates.. Check this out


    1. Insufficient or Too Much Content. Under 500 words will cause many sites to reject it. It can be difficult to judge the number of words in spun content as it can be variable. Make sure the basic content is 600+ words before you spin. Likewise a smaller number of sites will reject content over 1000 words.
    2. Wrong Categories. About 30% of sites will fail your work if you do not pick the correct category or fail to choose one at all. The best bet is to follow these rules in the ?category ?field of Ultimate Demon
      Pick the most specific term for your exact niche as your first choice, then a more general term, then possible a third, then finally ALWALYS finish with the categories ?General? and ?Misc? (or ?miscellaneous?). These last two will ensure that many more of your submissions get published.
    3. Too Many Links. Don?t put more than one link in the resource box ? don?t put more than one link in the footer. Put the body link at least 50% of the way down your article. The one massive change article sites have made is to clamp down on link spamming. Ultimate Demon checks whether the site platform is one that takes body links or ?resource box? links and attempts to publish one or the other. The application will try and submit articles with more than one link ? but in my experience this leads to an enormous drop off in success.
    4. Bad proxies. My advice? Get private proxies and test them first, or don?t use them at all. Time outs, failed calls to ?recaptcha? (Google?s own captcha and anti spam service) can either ban your proxies quickly or cause slow failures for under performing weak proxies. Tested private ? or none at all for posting.
    5. Poorly Performing Captcha Solving Service. Certain times of the day Deathbycaptcha admits to very slow response time. While you are not charged for captchas that do not take place on time, these in themselves can cause time out issues for account creation and posting with Ultimate Demon.
    6. Public Email Address. Both Google and Yahoo are well aware that their email services are used by spammers. Worse still, many of the article site platforms do not accept public email addresses AT ALL.
      If you try and submit to several of these platforms with a Gmail or Livemail or whatever account ? that will fail 100% of the time on some article platforms and get no further.
      Some fail your submission and that?s the end of it. Others who see a public email service seem to try and counter spamming with them by changing your requested password and asking for a double verification.
      Public emails are a no-no for article submission. The failure rate with these free services has gone up from around 10% in 2011 to over 40% by May 2012. The providers are trying to stop you using them as they don?t like to be directly associated with spam, the article sites are trying to stop you as they are aware they are a quick way to create spam.

      Then there are other things that you canb't really prevent like

      "Duplicate Titles" (some websites create a URL out of the title and won't allow dupilicates. That great title you have written has been used before)

      Then the BIG two

      Moderated admission process. You create an account and have to wait until the site owner approves you. hours? Days? Weeks? Never? And submissions you make in the mean time are not published. If yo make LOTs and they look crap you won't get your user account approved

      Moderated content submission. Every piece of content is read - by a human - before it is allowed. Some platforms have built in copyscape ort plagirisma checks. Cpontent reads bad or fails the check? It not allowed. Do this more than once? your account is banned more than likely.

      But in todays' environment where "less is more" why are you sending crap unreadable content anyway?
      If you are "blasting links" Why? It's not that good an idea any more and will get your accounts banned.

      Think of the AAA link building tools as "content syndication/distribution" tools with added link bonus". Yeah you can get hundreds in a matter of minutes or hours. But ask yourself "Is that a good idea"?
      In most cases - unless you are a churn and burn jockey - the answer is probably no.

      Scritty
     
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  11. donenvy

    donenvy Junior Member

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    Thanks for the reply guys and scritty I don't doubt your list is quality. I'm just trying to find out the weakest link in the process I'm using that's causing my failure rates. As a result I ran a test run (without submission, ONLY account creation) and still had huge failure rates and this is without posting anything.

    To answer some questions:

    Content 500-600 words
    Private email address used
    Captcha - I'm using deathbycaptcha and imagetyperz (not sure what more I can do here)
    Links - I'm only using one in the body (admittedly probably wrong for me to put it in the first paragraph and one in the resource box)
    Categories - I choose some, but when I do, the list becomes tiny. So I then add the rest that have no categories (Not sure if I'm doing this part right. How do you get the ones that don't have a category to work?)
    Proxies - I'm using XOC's proxies from here on BHW (25000+ elite private proxies, I'm guessing I'm using these for the wrong purpose?)

    Finally I'm not trying to mass blast, just trying to build around 300 quality backlinks.

    Any more advice guys?
     
  12. donenvy

    donenvy Junior Member

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    Hmmm ok going to try it without any proxies see what results I get
     
  13. xenergy81

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    Scrity has made the point about public email. I used my own domain's email and the success rate has been increasing quite dramatically.
    You can do bulk email creation via cpanel. Just go to your cpanel login, and choose "Import Addresses/Forwarders" in the Email group.
    You can use free name generator that available for free on the internet to generate 1000+ random names to be used as your email address name.

     
  14. donenvy

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    Ok guys need some of your advice here. So I removed the proxies and attempted a batch for "ACCOUNT CREATION ONLY".

    New own domain email used.

    Results: 250 Failed, 0 Success

    On inspection I notice majority of these sites have "Please select just the cats pictures below" Captchas/Mathematical Capthas/Put pictures in the right place puzzle game Captchas

    Does this sound right? Have I just got rubbish sites or am I still doing something wrong. Anybody else encounter the same situation?
     
  15. donenvy

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    Right I think I have found the problem to be with the actual Ultimate Demon. I logged into one of the WIKI accounts that showed successfully activated on Ultimate Demon and tried logging in my self and found error message I could not post because account has not been activated. So I manually sent another activation link and activated it myself and voila! It's allowing me to post!?

    So I dont understand why UD is not activating the link and secondly why is it falsely showing the account has been activated when it hasn't?
     
  16. pagesite

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    Hi. Im looking for information how many web 2.0 profiles (bio/about + link) can Ultimate Demon create (on sites like disqus (not blogging platforms))? And how meny forum profiles with same way (bio/about + link) can it create/fill in.
     
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    I did not use the same list as you had, but I use Matt's list. and have the same result. Dont know why
     
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