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Plimus PayPal.. WTF?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by wowhaxor, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Haven't gotten an e-mail or anything but logged in to Plimus and saw them asking me to set up my paypal info.

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    http://home.plimus.com/ecommerce/paypal-settings/basic
    I specifically use Plimus instead of PayPal for the last 9 months or so and pay the higher fees so I can accept PayPal WITHOUT having to have a PayPal account, this would defeat their entire purpose IMO and it sounds like it is manadtory. Extremely unimpressed both by this change but more importantly by the fact I have heard NOTHING about this from PayPal; I heard from third parties they'd be doing something about paypal recurring/subscriptions but that didn't concern me. Being able to not accept a PayPal payment without a PayPal account is a big issue for me...

    Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks :)
     
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  2. DigiWebUk

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    I bet paypal have limited there account lol!
     
  3. trafficsource

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    copy/paste:

    November 14, 2011


    Dear Vendor,

    As we continue our efforts to improve and upgrade the Plimus service, we must unfortunately advise you that PayPal will be temporarily unavailable for purchases made through your account, effective immediately. Your customers will, of course, be able to make purchases using any of our other payment methods. PayPal availability will return, better than before, in the coming months. More information on our PayPal strategy will be made available in the very near future.

    We are taking this step based on our evaluation of your products as being higher-risk than the majority of our clients’ offerings. Examples of products that fit into this category include:

    · Forex Signals / Advice
    · Cell Tracking
    · Unlocks
    · Media (e.g. Music, / Movie downloads)
    · Bids / Auctions
    · VPN / Proxy Services

    If you believe your product type was incorrectly included in this high-risk category, please contact us with your product description(s) and link(s).

    We appreciate your continued business, and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

    The Plimus Team
     
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  4. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    My products don't fall into those categories, I haven't received that e-mail (or any e-mail about this) and I am currently able to process PayPal payments got a couple today most recently about an hour ago).
     
  5. Autumn

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    Damn... Looks like Plimus is going to shit. They've been a haven for copyright infringement until now, looks like someone is forcing them to sort their shit out.
     
  6. eng152

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    This can be happened after high refund rate from paypal buyers :(
     
  7. dheer

    dheer Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I'm in the same boat as wowhaxor's and its not even clear what they want. I lost my subscription due to the recent mess and now they put something odd.

    I wrote them an email lets wait for the reply. Mark is in my skype contact list and I will ask him about this once he comes online.
     
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    I hate buying anything through plimus, and much prefer to deal with vendors who sell through paypal, shitty and all as they are
     
  9. dheer

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    alright I got a reply from them and it seems if we want to sell things now onwards on plimust to our paypal customers we must own a paypal business/premium account. Thats what I got an email. Paypal is such a bitch and they are now forcing such third party processors to stop processing direct payments thru their gateway even they are getting paid the same commissions. Paypal you are a bitch.

    here is the mail from plimus:-

    Dear Vendor,

    Thank you for your E-mail,

    Later today you will receive a detailed E-mail that will explain everything about our new program with PayPal and what are the requirements from your side.

    Going forward from December 9th in order to offer your customers a PayPal option in the Plimus BuyNow page you will need to obtain a business/premium account with PayPal.

    We appreciate your understanding with this matter.

    Regards,
    The Plimus Team

    I have again asked them on reply of this mail and they clearly said this:-

    Unfortunately if you will not be able to obtain a PayPal account by December 9th you will not be able to offer PayPal through Plimus anymore.

    CRAPPPPPPPPPPPPP. now what options we have other than this gaypal?
     
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  10. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I was thinking 2CO but it sounds like PP is the one doing this and not Plimus? I know it was PP that was behind the recent change in the subscription payment feature and not Plimus. Has anyone using 2checkout heard anything? I'd gladly drop the $50 and switch right now but not if they are about to have the same issue.
     
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    I use Fastspring.com as an alternative for 2co and plimus. But i'm not sure about offering a service with fastspring. They allow digital product.
     
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    HI... I use 2CO and have not faced any issues of the sort with them. However, the option of paypal is only available for buyers logging in from IP addresses of some country.

    To save the $50 on 2Co, you could try one of these coupons http://www.retailmenot.com/view/2checkout.com . Worked for me a month ago.
     
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    Sorry OP for the off topic...can anyone tell me how do I change my email address for payment via paypal....my e-mail address for plimus is different and it is not the one which I use for Paypal.....
     
  14. howard_hughes

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    Wow, thats really retarded? That would defeat the whole purpose of using Plimus and not paypal..

    Or May be Paypal bought Plimus?
     
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    YES.. because a lof of new Clickbank Products copyrighted content has been added into Plimus, that's the reason why Plimus started acting like that.. Browse the Plimus Marketplace and most of make money online are new clickbank products added by most top wanted scammers from international vendors added into their very dirty free domain name.. I always received those copyrighted content and saved for security purposes once the law has implemented :D
     
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    If this action is taken by Paypal then this will apply to all other payment processors who accept paypal on our behalf like 2co

    So If you are from a country where paypal is not supported you can't do business online any more!
     
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    from my email,


    Dear Vendor,

    We are writing to inform you of some changes to the way in which Plimus handles PayPal transactions.

    These changes will be implemented in two phases. The first phase will start on December 9, 2011, when Plimus will cease offering PayPal as a centralized payment method. After that date, purchases made by shoppers via PayPal will no longer pass through the Plimus PayPal account, but will instead pass directly to each vendor's own PayPal account. In order to take advantage of this feature, each vendor will need to provide some details on their PayPal account, as explained below.

    The clear benefit of this approach is the immediate availability of funds: the moment a transaction is complete, you will have the revenues available for re-investment in your business.

    In the first phase (known as PayPal Basic Integration), shoppers wishing to use your PayPal account will be passed directly to PayPal for payment. Once a transaction closes, it will be confirmed back to the Plimus platform; this means that Plimus will:

    (1) send the customer to either a generic Thank You page, or to a location you define in the BuyNow template;

    (2) deliver an Instant Payment Notification (IPN) to you, if you have defined this option in the Control Panel; and

    (3) track the sale in a special report intended to track these sales. Please note that, for the duration of this phase, when the shopper leaves the Plimus site, their transaction will no longer be under the full control of Plimus, and you will therefore need to deliver any applicable fulfillment details and invoices.

    Additionally, any disputes, refunds and other transaction-related issues should be pursued directly within the PayPal system; and applicable sales taxes and VAT should be charged through the native PayPal platform.

    The PayPal Basic Integration will be made available on December 9, and there will be no charge from Plimus for this service. Vendors need not take advantage of PayPal Basic Integration in order to be eligible for PayPal Advanced Integration.

    In the second phase of the solution (known as PayPal Advanced Integration), due for release at the end of December, Plimus will fully manage PayPal sales on your behalf through your PayPal account. Once a shopper selects PayPal for payment, they will complete the transaction on the PayPal site; the transaction will be acknowledged and managed by Plimus, even though funds will be delivered directly to your PayPal account. PayPal Advanced Integration will enable Plimus to manage fulfillment (e.g. download links and serial numbers), refunds, chargebacks, shopper disputes, subscriptions, full reporting and so forth. This phase will go live at the end of December, and will be a reduced-rate service: your Plimus fee will be lowered by the amount charged by PayPal.

    In order to take advantage of these new features, we encourage you to examine our step-by-step PDF guide to acquiring API credentials for your PayPal account, and updating your Plimus Control Panel settings. You will need to have these details updated no later than December 9th in order to continue to offer PayPal to your shoppers.

    We believe this new approach to PayPal will prove beneficial to all in the long run, putting more money back into every vendor's business more quickly. We genuinely appreciate your business and as this transition occurs, we apologize for any inconvenience it may cause.

    For further information on the Basic and Advanced Integrations, please click here.


    link: http://home.plimus.com/ecommerce/paypal-settings/newsletter
     
  18. Randy569

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    I got the same email Mointernet got.

    One of the reasons I went with Plimus was that I didn't want PayPal nosing into my business. Now, it seems, they aren't nosing in, they are butting in, whether I want them there or not.

    I might have to take a closer look at 2Checkout...
     
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    this is bullsh*t, been in paypal business before and i dont want to go back there.. :( very frustrating when your account get limited...