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Please Help : Emergency : Am I into serious Shit?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by bornformoney, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. bornformoney

    bornformoney Senior Member

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    Thread's title is misleading, since I thought it's very serious, but since some senior members has put some sense into me, now I feel like SHIT! I am sorry for the stupid title...apparently my situation isn't as serious as I thought it would be.


    alright guys, I've been selling some products for a few months and never had this problem before.

    So I have this product which has no refund policy, and some person bought it for $4.62.

    Now the person's asking for a refund and I simply said NO, because there was no refund policy.

    Now, I got an email from the person saying this,

    "Me and my lawyer tim sayer will file an internet fraud case monday morningthat $4.62 product will cost you $5,000 for lawyer fees and court cost...
    If you think I am joking your DEAD WRONG!!!. It is the law to give a 30 day
    refund grace period to anything you sale on the internet..LOOK IT UP! I WILL LET
    NO MAN OR WOMAN STEAL FROM ME!!!!"

    How can they say this? Is it true? If you were in my situation, how would you deal with it?

    Thanks :)
     
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  2. keinehabe

    keinehabe Supreme Member

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    lmao for $4.62? :) are you serious ?
     
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    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Ignore him.

    OR

    If you're stressing about it refund his fucking $4 its not worth the aggrevation.
     
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  4. Mosquera

    Mosquera Newbie

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    I'm not that savvy on that matter, but if you stated a no-refund policy in the terms of service before selling the product, then they shouldn't be able to take such actions against you. Then again, that's what I think. I'm not even near to being a lawyer :p
     
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    $4 was not worth typing all that. just give them a refund.
     
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    Refund 'em.
     
  7. Nakota757

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    Blatant lie.

    There is no refund law.

    Do you really think someone would pay $5,000 in court fees (remember, the Prosecution has to pay too!) over $5?

    Ignore it, the worst they can do is a credit card chargeback.

    So you're out $5, fuck it.
     
  8. csfuk

    csfuk Regular Member

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    Its funny when people are getting scared from that kind of emails :)
    People are trying you know and if it works it works.
    The person has no case so tell him/her to go ahead and do it :)
    hahaha
     
  9. bornformoney

    bornformoney Senior Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys, I am thinking just that, but is it a trick people can do?

    Does a policy like that even exist?
     
  10. BlackSeng

    BlackSeng Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Do you have a scanner? Scan a picture of your middle finger and reply that to him.
     
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  11. billbobi

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    I give refunds of $30+ dollars, it's not a big deal, just give the refund
     
  12. Nakota757

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    No, the vendor's policy is the only policy that matters. If they're feeling buyer's remorse, they can't take that out on you, especially if you've got a no refund policy.

    People don't read the fine print and then act like it's irrelevant just because it inconveniences them.

    I hate people like that.
     
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    Why would he give a refund if originally refund is not promised? Business is business I will not refund a dime to this stupid fuck.
     
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    Refund him, lol. Not worth the hassle.
     
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    I wouldn't worry the most they could get if they win the case is $4.62. Don't lose any sleep over it, just don't reply to any E-mails from them ever. I have been threatened to be sued dozens of times.
     
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    A couple of things:

    Please stop the misleading Thread titles. The only way you would ever be in "serious shit" over $5 is if you walked into a bank with a gun and demanded it from a bank teller.

    You have it in your signature than you are going to be a millionaire in a year. If this is true, stop wasting your time on the little things. ie disputes with asshole customers over $5. Your time is worth more than that if that goal is realistic.
     
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  17. bornformoney

    bornformoney Senior Member

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    hitman I totally love your response because it is exactly what my damn brain need at this very moment.

    lol it is true, my goal, but I am not prepared to even lose $1 in any case where my mistake isn't involved.

    Sorry for the thread title...
     
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  18. William Rufino

    William Rufino Newbie

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    Here in brazil theres is a refund law, but it's 7 days
     
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    catapult copy Registered Member

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    If you clearly state "no refunds" and you have this in your terms of service,
    you have all the legal doc on your site like privacy policy, disclaimer etc

    Then they have to abide by your terms of service. but if you don't have
    them then you may be in trouble. Any shop that has signed with
    "NO REFUND POLICY" in most courts they overide the consumer guarantee an
    the onus is on the individual to both see and read them and abide by them.

    Also to note that the Consumer Guarantee in most countries covers and is for
    tangible goods that are faulty - so they are more replacement policies.

    The fact is you always get bums like that that buy, and no matter what you have,
    they want a refund. I have sites with no refund policy and still get
    asked for refunds.

    I give the refund as "sometimes" (depends how they ask) it is just better
    for business. But nasty asses like that I actually mess with - because mostly
    they are full of shit and are just trying to blackmail you.

    As for 30 day law - depends what country or state you live in. And I
    suggest you look it up - it's not hard to find out. {I am NOT a lawyer so the
    normal disclaimer bullshit, seek professional advice etc}

    In short I would give him a refund and post his email and name so everyone
    can beware of them, as some do this for a living (god bless the US where
    some sue even the cat to make some money
    )

    BEST ADVICE: Don't stress about it! Not worth letting one blackmailing slob lose your peace.
     
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    I have been here a few times and they never go through with it. He will speak to his lawyer and the lawyer will say YEAH lets get the bastard. He will get all excited send you the threatening letters like you just got and feel good about himself. Then in 7 Days he gets the lawyer bill for $150 for the 15 minute conversation he had with the Lawyer and will decide to cut his losses.

    However for $4 just give the guy his money back.. seriously!!