Ok guys so I had 2 urls first page of google from youtube One was the youtube.com the other youtu.be Both links to the same video. I decided to do a test. I loaded Xrumer and scrapebox and started pounding away auto approve blogs and Forum profiles. And in less than 12hrs that video url went clear back to page 5. Now 2 things here lets see if this url makes a recovery and passes the other video. Then its a temporary penalty. And if it stays in the sandbox does this open a way to punish your competition? Anyone else do some Panda testing? I was under the impression the simply discounted Spam links but there is clearly a penalty. And the worst Part these links aren't really spam. They are done in a very white hat way. Just with allot of speed.